We need a big fat monster 👺 c*ck on our team

[Spud2nique]

Just some big d!ck bastard who is capable at the center position.

 

Jonas Valančiūnis

Ivica Zubac

Jusuf Nurkic

Bobby Portis

Naz Reid

Goga Bitadze

 

Trae needs a big fat … well you know…

Capela is lanky. OO is short. 
 

We need a big a$$ ogre  

 

 

[NBASupes]

4 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

Just some big d!ck bastard who is capable at the center position.

 

Jonas Valančiūnis

Ivica Zubac

Jusuf Nurkic

Bobby Portis

Naz Reid

Goga Bitadze

 

Trae needs a big fat … well you know…

Capela is lanky. OO is short. 
 

We need a big a$$ ogre  

 

 

Some of the names you mention are worse than the guys we already have. Nurk, Portis, and Goga. Val is an upgrade but not a big enough upgrade. Zubac and Reid are big enough upgrades but they come with question marks as well but at least they would give us a major leap. 

CC isn't lanky. He's just not as mobile as he used to be, and all of his metrics on offense have massively decreased. While he's still a high-IQ player on D, he doesn't have the same shot blocking or paint protection skills he had previously due to a decrease in athlete ability. CC still has good value to us, more as a backup. That said, we need a lot more as a starting center. 

OO just isn't a starting center. He's like the Lou Williams of centers. He's a 6th man center, though and though. 

We stole CC from Houston but Houston knew his time in his prime was ending soon so they were willing to sell low to get out before the end is near. Sadly, we only had one year of prime CC in Atlanta. 

[JTB]

Man we need to just go get Ayton and put all our cards in on that working out in my opinion.

Ayton will help open up the floor and DARE I say…I’m thinking i would include Jalen in an Ayton trade and start OO at PF by Ayton then keep Capela as back up center long term.

What you think @NBASupes ?….that gets us off the Jalen contract and puts OO at his true position.

[NBASupes]

14 minutes ago, JTB said:

Man we need to just go get Ayton and put all our cards in on that working out in my opinion.

Ayton will help open up the floor and DARE I say…I’m thinking i would include Jalen in an Ayton trade and start OO at PF by Ayton then keep Capela as back up center long term.

What you think @NBASupes ?….that gets us off the Jalen contract and puts OO at his true position.

Ain't no one touching JJ contract. Ayton cost is pretty reasonable as long as they want to move him. 

CC+Nance Jr+ a couple of 2nds. I added 3 just to get the deal done and easily beat any competition. Basically expirings and some assets. 2nds are worth a lot more today than they were a couple of years ago so it's more than enough. 

[JayBirdHawk]

3 hours ago, JTB said:

Man we need to just go get Ayton and put all our cards in on that working out in my opinion.

Ayton will help open up the floor and DARE I say…I’m thinking i would include Jalen in an Ayton trade and start OO at PF by Ayton then keep Capela as back up center long term.

 

1. That's stupid value for Ayton, he's not worth that.

2. JJ isn't trade eligible for 6 months after signing his extension. So he's not trade eligible until July 1st 2025.

3. Since he's still technically on his rookie deal this season making only $4 million, Hawks won't get back his $30 mil value in trade (Poison Pill - For salary-matching purposes, if a player is traded between the time his rookie contract is extended and the following July 1 (when that extension takes effect), the player’s incoming value for the receiving team is the average of his current-year salary and the annual salary in each year of his extension. His current team, on the other hand, simply treats his current-year salary as the outgoing figure for matching purposes.).

4. Stupid value you've put on Ayton. Filler and 2nds is his value

[Packfill]

2 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Ain't no one touching JJ contract. Ayton cost is pretty reasonable as long as they want to move him. 

CC+Nance Jr+ a couple of 2nds. I added 3 just to get the deal done and easily beat any competition. Basically expirings and some assets. 2nds are worth a lot more today than they were a couple of years ago so it's more than enough. 

I think if Portland moves Ayton they will get a 1st round pick for him.  That likely means taking back some bad contracts but I expect they would be happy to do that if it means a better pick.  

I have serious concerns about an Ayton + JJ frontcourt defensively.  Both have the athletic chops to be good defenders but have not shown the effort or awareness to be consistent plus defenders.  That and their contracts together with Trae's puts a squeeze on filling out the bench long term since Dyson is due an extension sooner rather than later.  

[JayBirdHawk]

9 minutes ago, Packfill said:

 

I have serious concerns about an Ayton + JJ frontcourt defensively.  Both have the athletic chops to be good defenders but have not shown the effort or awareness to be consistent plus defenders.  That and their contracts together with Trae's puts a squeeze on filling out the bench long term since Dyson is due an extension sooner rather than late

Not advocating for or against Ayton, but he has 1 year remaining on his contract after this season. Dyson would be early extension eligible next offseason - for a player like Dyson unless he greatly improves his offense, to go along with his stellar defense, you let him hit RFAcy (unless is a really great deal). In any case, his new salary won't kick in until Ayton's end. Just saying.

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

1. That's stupid value for Ayton, he's not worth that.

2. JJ isn't trade eligible for 6 months after signing his extension. So he's not trade eligible until July 1st 2025.

3. Since he's still technically on his rookie deal this season making only $4 million, Hawks won't get back his $30 mil value in trade (Poison Pill - For salary-matching purposes, if a player is traded between the time his rookie contract is extended and the following July 1 (when that extension takes effect), the player’s incoming value for the receiving team is the average of his current-year salary and the annual salary in each year of his extension. His current team, on the other hand, simply treats his current-year salary as the outgoing figure for matching purposes.).

4. Stupid value you've put on Ayton. Filler and 2nds is his value

{side eyeing Burd.. hesi..} 
 

Burd…You’re a real Zubac ya know that? -Vince Cellini gametime nba 2018ish 

[Wretch]

[Spud2nique]

1 minute ago, Wretch said:

It was Halloween themed wut?  

 

Fine, we need a thick guy.. better?  

[Wretch]

4 hours ago, JTB said:

Man we need to just go get Ayton and put all our cards in on that working out in my opinion.

Ayton will help open up the floor and DARE I say…I’m thinking i would include Jalen in an Ayton trade and start OO at PF by Ayton then keep Capela as back up center long term.

What you think @NBASupes ?….that gets us off the Jalen contract and puts OO at his true position.

I'm onboard with Ayton as well as a buy low option.  Aside from whatever the chemistry issues may or may not be, I think the biggest knock that I've seen is that he can kinda shoot the 3, but it's a WIP (not to be confused with WAP @Spud2nique).  Otherwise, the clock is ticking...  Personally, if we didn't have Trae...I would have zero.zerozerozero% interest in him, but I think they would work well together.  

[kg01]

This is the best thread we've had in months.  Mods probably nervous AF rn.

We definitely need to move on from Capela.  I don't like Ayton.  I don't want Ayton.  But he could help us.  Shiiiii, even if he gives half-a** effort on D, it's better than full-a** Capela's D rn.  But atleast Ayton might make a shot or three.  Fck! 

[Spud2nique]

43 minutes ago, Wretch said:

I'm onboard with Ayton as well as a buy low option.  Aside from whatever the chemistry issues may or may not be, I think the biggest knock that I've seen is that he can kinda shoot the 3, but it's a WIP (not to be confused with WAP @Spud2nique).  Otherwise, the clock is ticking...  Personally, if we didn't have Trae...I would have zero.zerozerozero% interest in him, but I think they would work well together.  

 You just call me a wap? 
 

 @Wretch  our last run 

1 minute ago, kg01 said:

This is the best thread we've had in months.  Mods probably nervous AF rn.

We definitely need to move on from Capela.  I don't like Ayton.  I don't want Ayton.  But he could help us.  Shiiiii, even if he gives half-a** effort on D, it's better than full-a** Capela's D rn.  But atleast Ayton might make a shot or three.  Fck! 

But you didn’t put anything in the ? …

[kg01]

19 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

 You just call me a wap? 
 

 @Wretch  our last run 

But you didn’t put anything in the ? …

@Wretch just added you to his class action suit, btw.  Congrats.

Also, the problem we have is its too early for some of these teams to realize they need to blow it up.  Liami, MiLLLLwaukee, TOR,and others need to pull the trigger and make some players available.  

[capstone21]

Definitely no to Ayton … dude doesn’t guard and doesn’t know how to set a pick … me first dude on offense and a waste of space on defense.

Nic Claxton should Be our target… he would do a great job of protecting the paint and also got a fast motor to catch those Trae young lobs 

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, kg01 said:

@Wretch just added you to his class action suit, btw.  Congrats.

Also, the problem we have is its too early for some of these teams to realize they need to blow it up.  Liami, MiLLLLwaukee, TOR,and others need to pull the trigger and make some players available.  

Sad face huh…

[Spud2nique]

15 minutes ago, capstone21 said:

Nic Claxton should Be our target…

Too skinny. We need thicker. 

[Spud2nique]

Can’t we just make another deal with the Pels for Val? They seem to make good trade partners with us. 
 

Get Val and have him set 100 screens a game for Trae. Teams will tire out.

[Final_quest]

The modern NBA bigs are smaller.

[kg01]

28 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Too skinny. We need thicker. 

He's basically a better version of capela.  But that also means he has the same warts.  Meaning, other than lobs, he's a 0 on O.

Although I hate Ayton (HAyton?), he has a dimension on O that we sorely lack.

And any defense he gives us is a bonus.  The offe se he brings more than makes up for it.

If folks think I'm wrong, that means you haven't watched capela on d the last 2+ years.  He's basically at the same level as ayton defensively these days. 

34 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Sad face huh…

I can't shake the sadness, squd.