Developmental Season

[JayBirdHawk]

I'm seeing this floated more and more.....another name for the 'R' word: Rebuilding

 

 

 

 

[Packfill]

Development is fine and in doing so it of course can have a negative impact on winning.  The real question is whether the Hawks as a franchise have positioned themselves well to be in developmental mode this year.  They were in development mode when they went to the ECF.

[JTB]

There’s no way Trae is ok with this. They must be considering to trade him at some point. These young guys have a long way to go! Even Dyson! As exceptional as DD is defensively his offense is a work in progress in itself.

OO is still a work in progress also.

 

 I’m expecting a Trae Young pick at some point . Can’t keep throwing the “development” word around and trying to take that as looking on the bright side after losses pile up.

[terrell]

1 hour ago, JTB said:

There’s no way Trae is ok with this. They must be considering to trade him at some point. These young guys have a long way to go! Even Dyson! As exceptional as DD is defensively his offense is a work in progress in itself.

OO is still a work in progress also.

 

 I’m expecting a Trae Young pick at some point . Can’t keep throwing the “development” word around and trying to take that as looking on the bright side after losses pile up.

I seriously think they're preparing for life after Trae...JJ Rizz and DD are the future... Problem is, I don't think Trae has much Value around the league.. I think fans would be shocked at the lack of legit offers for him.... I'd definitely be on the phones looking around though..Id love to add some future picks and good young players if possible.... Im also ok with just letting him play out his contract here while the young guys develop more..(so Ressler can "sell his tickets")..But If it were up to me, I'd draft a young Center and bring in a vet PG/leader like SA did with CP3 for a couple of yrs, and I think we'd be better off in the longrun..

Btw, I think they should consider sitting him if his Achilles is a problem..His value will be really shot if he tears it..

And while we're at it play Nance more, bring up Barlow, and take OO out of the rotation while we look for a trade before the deadline.

I cant take much more of this guy just looking lost out there.. smh.

He brings nothing to the table..

Bogi should also be available before he gets hurt again..

 

 

 

Edited November 25 by terrell

[JeffS17]

4 minutes ago, terrell said:

I seriously think they're preparing for life after Trae...JJ Rizz and DD are the future... Problem is, I don't think Trae has much Value around the league.. I think fans would be shocked at the lack of legit offers for him.... I'd definitely be on the phones looking around though..Id love to add some future picks and good young players if possible.... Im also ok with just letting him play out his contract here while the young guys develop more..(so Ressler can "sell his tickets")..But If it were up to me, I'd draft a young Center and bring in a vet PG/leader like SA did with CP3 for a couple of yrs, and I think we'd be better off in the longrun..

Btw, I think they should consider sitting him if his Achilles is a problem..His value will be really shot if he tears it..

And while we're at it play Nance more, bring up Barlow, and take OO out of the rotation while we look for a trade before the deadline.

I cant take much more of this guy just looking lost out there.. smh.

He brings nothing to the table..

 

 

 

Agree with just about all of this… I feel like we’ve been positioning for post Trae Hawks.  I really think the front office wanted to move forward with Murray at PG and trade Trae but the offers weren't there.  People dismissed all the smoke about Trae’s trade value being lower than Murrays last off season, but I think it was real.  Murray is on a much better contract and is a better defender and  probably a better fit for Quin ball too.  I still want to keep Trae but just want him on a reasonable contract.  I can live with his flaws if hes not on a max

[kg01]

Calling this a developmental season smells the same as how Dan E. strAinge "almost" traded for Giannis, Jokic, and Antman before everybody knew how good they were. 

So now that sQuint's grand designs are comin' up snake eyes, it's a dEvEloPmEnTaL szn..

 

[Spud2nique]

12 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Dan E. strAinge

If we threw in a 1st, would he? 

[kg01]

8 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

If we threw in a 1st, would he? 

I'd rather their C.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

11 hours ago, JTB said:

There’s no way Trae is ok with this. They must be considering to trade him at some point. These young guys have a long way to go! Even Dyson! As exceptional as DD is defensively his offense is a work in progress in itself.

OO is still a work in progress also.

 

 I’m expecting a Trae Young pick at some point . Can’t keep throwing the “development” word around and trying to take that as looking on the bright side after losses pile up.

The only way he's cool with it, is if also they're promising him a supermax extension ( which he may not get all of it if he isn't All-NBA )

[TheNorthCydeRises]

We need a poll.

Do you as a fan trust the current organization to do a proper rebuild, if they move on from Trae Young?

Simple yes or no.

[macdaddy]

32 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

We need a poll.

Do you as a fan trust the current organization to do a proper rebuild, if they move on from Trae Young?

Simple yes or no.

No

[macdaddy]

If we are moving on from Trae then we are in for some lean years.  Everyone knows you go all in when you get a star even if that star is supposedly 2nd tier.  There are lesser players in the league being built around.  

And i sure hope they don't believe Kobe will be a franchise star to build around.  

[kg01]

32 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

We need a poll.

Do you as a fan trust the current organization to do a proper rebuild, if they move on from Trae Young?

Simple yes or no.

What's a "proper" rebuild tho?

It's not a simple question.  It's much easier to rebuild in the current climate of the NBA.

Fans are more understanding as most will embrace the euphoria of tank-discussions over the consternation of actually competing and maybe not winning.

Money-wise it's easier because they don't "have" to pay anyone for 3+ years.

Whatever decisions they make will be rationalized by "uh we're just tanking", so nothing really needs to work out.  

So, long story long, we'll be 7 or 8 years down the road before anything they do matters.  That's rebuilding.  I'm not sure it matters who runs it.  It's mostly luck anyways.

Sorry for the rant.  I woke up in a bitter mood or mode or both. 

[Gray Mule]

As this Hawk team continues to lose with Trae, the easier it becomes to consider him as being on his way out.  More than anything else, to me, his huge contract.  We can just as easily lose with a much cheaper PG.

Trae is not 100% healthy and probably will not be the remainder of the season. 

All Hawk fans cried the blues before Capela and Young were added to our roster.  We desperately needed a center and a PG,  Now, we're ready to move on from them.  (Note.  I'd personally rather keep Capela and send OO out the door).  

Front office sez:  "Don't dare do anything.  It might not work!"

[macdaddy]

5 minutes ago, Gray Mule said:

As this Hawk team continues to lose with Trae, the easier it becomes to consider him as being on his way out.  More than anything else, to me, his huge contract.  We can just as easily lose with a much cheaper PG.

Trae is not 100% healthy and probably will not be the remainder of the season. 

All Hawk fans cried the blues before Capela and Young were added to our roster.  We desperately needed a center and a PG,  Now, we're ready to move on from them.  (Note.  I'd personally rather keep Capela and send OO out the door).  

Front office sez:  "Don't dare do anything.  It might not work!"

Exactly.  

[Packfill]

1 hour ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

We need a poll.

Do you as a fan trust the current organization to do a proper rebuild, if they move on from Trae Young?

Simple yes or no.

Hard to do a proper rebuild when you don't control your own draft picks for the next three years.  You can of course still rebuild but you do not get the benefit of the high draft picks that customarily attach to a "rebuilding" record.  My sense is the Hawks will never publicly say they are rebuilding.  They may talk about development and retooling, but not rebuilding.  

Honestly a Trae trade is difficult for this team because if he goes the team will need an alpha scorer to replace him as well as a starting point guard.  

I think it is more likely they trade non-core pieces - which would potentially include some combination of expiring contracts like CC and Nance, draft picks they have acquired via trade and non-core young players like OO and Kobe - than they are to trade Trae.

[AHF]

59 minutes ago, Packfill said:

Hard to do a proper rebuild when you don't control your own draft picks for the next three years. 

100% this.  Right now Sacramento is keeping their pick this year, we are giving our pick to the Spurs, and we are getting the #25 pick from the Lakers.  Next year the Spurs get the best of our pick or otheir pick.  The year after that the Spurs get our pick.

What about that makes anyone think we should rebuild?!?

[hylndr11]

16 minutes ago, AHF said:

100% this.  Right now Sacramento is keeping their pick this year, we are giving our pick to the Spurs, and we are getting the #25 pick from the Lakers.  Next year the Spurs get the best of our pick or otheir pick.  The year after that the Spurs get our pick.

What about that makes anyone think we should rebuild?!?

cant believe we did that deal, jesus christ just give trae to Spurs and give us our picks back and lets move the fk on man.

[Spud2nique]

This whole season comes down to one thing..

Big take lil  

[Gray Mule]

There is a difference!

Rebuild:  You're hoping you can "tank" the season and get a high draft pick to pick you up.

Develop:  Young players already signed.  Just need to grow.  Gaining that necessary experience.

Hawks have draft picks.  They have no control over these picks because they are coming to us from other teams.  Their record will determine where they fall, not our record.

With all of our injured players returning, it's time we started winning.  We're run out of excuses.