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Marcin wants:

- 4-5 mln a year

- 20+ mins/game (starting spot prefered)

- warm climate is a big bonus.

I haven't noticed him being more turnovers prone than average big guy, stats say different story (1/3 TO/game in 11.7 mins), but he doesn't get ball in offense too often.

He's solid defender, reads game well. His biggest advantage over Zaza (besides size) is that he actually can jump. He can dunk from free throw line.

Gortat is very raw offensively, he misses most of his jump shots, his FT shooting went down of lately. Like Pachulia, he hustles for rebounds on both sides of the court.

And he can run, probably as fast as Zaza.

Summary: Marcin is already too expansive.

I agree that it wasn't foul. Rondo jumped into Flip and marked a shot. Smart play from RR but it's not Murray's fault refrees fell for it.

This play killed the rests of spirit in our team though. They never showed up in 4th quarter.

Poor guy is hardly moving on the floor. He is worn out, exhausted. He leads entire league in mpg and it never was good to him.

Give him a break and you'll see what he's capable of.

Of all proposed trades I'd trade ... Woody of course (I doubt any team would want him though). How's Horford supposed to make an impact on offense if he doesn't get the ball? And if he does it's away from the basket. I recon he has midrange jumper not worse than Boozer but JSmoove stands somewhere around 3 pt line so there's no chance for offensive rebound if he misses.

And JJ wasn't, is not and won't be a team leader. Forcing him for that position is a big mistake.

Pistons are only one win behind us. If anyone is catching us it's them.

JJ is worn out. He's 3rd in mpg. 42 mpg in last 5 games.

No, 6 is a good note. If you look at roster - team is currently underachieving. With 12-8 record you can't totally bash Woodson (yet). But I predict two or three more losses in the row (morale really went down lately).

But is it not Bibby's job to get him into a good shot? And a good shot for Josh is a dunk or layup off of a pass.

I agree to some degree. Bibby really sould make an opening pass from time to time. However he also should run the offense more often, sometimes he event doesn't touch the ball which is not his fault.

Only one pick'n'roll, I don't know whom to blame for it.

Johson didn't get one good screen to free himself from Artest.

On the other hand he didn't give away the ball when doubled after pick and eventually turned it over.

Fast break when Evans got blocked was dissapointing. Mo is a solid dunker, he should earn 2+1, instead and he decided to make straight shot off the glass.

Horford was impressive, a real RoY which he was IMO. After 2 early fouls he came back stronger, did solid job defensively (you can't do much better than that against Yao) and played terrific offense showing nice touch around the rim. He wanted the ball, but he didn't get it in 4th quarter.

Flip had decent game against Rockets. Solid D, only one stupid TO.

Give the credit where credit is due: Artest is a terrific defender, Joe had no single easy possession, he had to earn hard all his points (BTW, what happened to his FT shooting?). Adelman wisely uses Yao. Rockets are very good rebounding team with Ming, Battie, Scola and Artest on the floor.

Refrees where really nice to Yao. 4 moving screens set by him and no single whistle? He spent also more than 3 second in paint a couple of times.

Marvin is probably the most consistent player in this team knowing his role and doing exactly what he's supposed to.

Smith's mid-range jumpshot is as ugly as his 3pt shooting. He HAS to work on it.

However his worst shot last night was airball from inside, 4 feet away from the basket.

Flip is the kind of player I think we will be fine with having for one season and one season only. The guy has been really getting on Woodson bad side here of late. If Acie would learn how to play with confidence he might have no trouble with benching Flip for a few games just to send a message.

But how do you gain confidence when you're benched after 1 mistake? That's what usually happens to Solo and Acie. Youth = turnovers and how do you prove yourself playing only a few minutes per game? Murray's turnovers are often dangerous, he should be sub'ed after first one.

When the online ballot comes up around January 6th...........All Hawks fans

have to step to make this game national. goto http://www.nba.com/FanNight

Also, my inside sources are telling me March 19th Mavs vs Hawks at Philips could be a TNT game. The network may make the switch depending on the economy or strength of games at that point in the season.

Tapeworms?

J/K

I'd also recommend flashblock addon if everything else fails.

Flip loses confidence if he's told to slow down and share the ball. So you either let him do his crazy things, which worked more often than not so far, or he's lost and useless. I'd give him 5-15 mpg and free hand.

Man if Horford had played that game would've turned out differently...

Absolutely. Lack of post presence was one of major issues in this game.

He had good start, but later travelled, commited offensive foul and played disasterous defense against pick'n'roll when Barrea scored his 12 points.

Solo started also well but was benched after first mistake.

I take Johnson, because any chance would do good to this team. Woodson already told these guys all he knew probably 100 times. But AJ is not perfect. He stood behind Harris trade. Every coach has his favourite players and ones he doesn't like.

I still think Smith and Horford were best last night. Too bad they're both suited for the same position.

There is a total of 1599 turnovers with 1450 assists for all 24 teams. That is through 60 total league games so far. So the league has a .9068 assist to turnover ratio. The NBA in contrast:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2009.html

A total of 7372 turnovers with 10291 assists for all 32 teams. That is through 251 games so far. So the league has a 1.3960 assist to turnover ratio. There is a big difference in the NBA and the Euroleague so it isn't an apples to apples comparison when looking at these numbers.

Assists in Europe are not counted the same way as in NBA. In Europe only pass after which player scores without dribble counts as assist.

ZaZa is good defensive matchup against slower big guys like Shaq and good teammate. Brings positive energy.

But one thing I really don't like about him - his help defense. He usually leaves his guy open and either draws the foul on penetrating guy or lets him get easy assist.

And if he could jump, Smith wouldn't have sprained his ankle .

Too many early foul trouble games. I'm sure this will change with time.

He was also outstanding in first game against Raptors.

Very promising start of the season. Healthy and movtivated, Bibby is still top PG.

I don't know what happened to Marv. After not the best playoffs he had, he's incredible consistent shooter so far and it's joy to watch his smooth threes.

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