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56 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Trae maybe a lot of things....FRAGILE isn't one of them.  Then in the next sentence you have JJ who can't stop spraining his ankle and OO who can't play a full season since he has been drafted.  But sure....carry on.

Trae has missed 25% of the season in half of the seasons he's been in the league.

Re: JJ and OO, they're also not taking up $40M/yr in cap space and #1 options. 

On 4/15/2024 at 7:50 AM, JayBirdHawk said:

Topic says it.  What you got?

 

EXHAUSTING.

 

Insanity.

Repeatedly trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results. 

A Trae-led team will never win an NBA title. Too many holes in his game. Too fragile. Too inconsistent. Too specific of a perfectly constructed support system needed for him to be successful.

Time to move on and build around the core of DM, JJ, and OO. Move Trae and CC for whatever you can get. Let Bey walk. And implement offensive and defensive systems that take advantage of our roster strengths and can deliver results.

3 hours ago, hawkman said:

Pretty much. Everything turns into a "blame Trae" session no matter what the subject is. 

Are you joking? I find it's the opposite. Everything is a "make every excuse in the book for Trae" no matter what the results or our eyes tell us.

I don't know that I agree about a correlation between a broader leniency of the refs these last 2 games and Trae being out, but I do agree that Trae hunts for fouls and some ref his games, accordingly.

The things folks will believe. LOL

There’s 0% chance a KD trade would happen without OO involved. And JJ. Plus at least 3-4 first rounders.

Why in the world would any team go “all in” on someone who is as soft and gives up as easily as KD? He’s looking for the path of least resistance to a championship and for others to do the heavy lifting. Want nothing to do with a bum like that.

KD is soft and I don’t want him anywhere near this squad - especially at the expense of OO, JJ and all the 1sts.

This is Simmons all over again. Both dumb ideas and not worth spending time on.

15 hours ago, RedDawg#8 said:

Not taking credit away from the GM, but Trae was the driver and reason we were as aggressive as we were to do it. 

I see we’re just totally making stuff up now. Cool, cool.

I don’t really consider a 6 seed-level team exciting. Bench and Nate are below average.

47 minutes ago, Diesel said:

All Offseason long, there has been a lot of complaining about Nate not letting rookies play (even though nobody paid attention to the details)...

Here's the question..

If JJ gets Gallo's old minutes and he's very good...  Say 12/7/1.4 in 16 mpg... 

 

 Would you continue complaining that Nate was holding him back last year?

or 

Would you praise Nate for allowing JJ to come up through the G-League system?

 

LOLOL at JJ even sniffing 12/7 this season. Good one.

As a Georgetown fan, I’ll recommend folks not sleep on Akinjo, either. If given minutes, I can see him really performing well in SL.

Strong ballhandler and scorer. Not a ton of size but plays big on both ends. Just a gamer. 

I would not at all be surprised if he became an NBA rotation guy in 2-3 years.

2 hours ago, kg01 said:

Funny.  I always joke around on here but find a way not to question other people's intelligence just because their opinion is different from mine.

Funny indeed.

Good god. No wonder you’re a Simmons fan, with such delicate sensibilities.

4 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Call I what you want but you can't call it wrong.

Certainly you can. Because it is wrong.

Simmons is one of the most overrated players over the last 20 years in the NBA. Can’t shoot a lick. Can’t play close out minutes. Is as mentally soft as they come.

After all the BS he’s pulled and poor play demonstrated, the fact he still has admirers really makes me question folks’ ability to recognize the traits of a winning basketball player.

1 minute ago, shakes said:

hawks forfeited 7 places in the 2nd round in exchange for $2 million that does not count for the salary cap.

 

Let that sink in for a bit.

Who cares? Not relevant to me in the least. They likely had similar grades on the 2 and opted to take a free $2 million.

Not really sure what’s supposed to be sinking in. Seems pretty straight forward.

On 5/30/2022 at 8:28 AM, Diesel said:

 

1. Patrick Baldwin Jr. 

This would get a lot of groans from statheads.  That's because Statheads don't tend to look at mechanics.  This is a coaches son... He has perfect mechanics.  He also has good recognition.   His Feetwork is higher echelon.   If he was to stay another year and come out next year, he would be high lottery (top 3).   That's my bet.  With him, my bet is that (like Jokic) if you give him time to grow, you will not be unhappy with what you get in 2-3 years.  He needs more strength and weight and then he has to learn to walk around with that weight. 

 

Ughh….Baldwin makes Josh Childress look like an aggressive Tasmanian devil. Hard pass.

Someone I’d like to target in the 2nd is Aminu Mohammed from Georgetown.

That program is an absolute dumpster fire under Ewing - and Aminu had an up-and-down freshman year - but the youngster already has an NBA body and has an incredible work ethic.

His game has plenty of areas where he can improve, but he has the right attitude and some of the right pieces.

9 hours ago, RandomFan said:

Agree with most of what you said in that post string, except we'll have to outbid other teams for Ben Simmons so I doubt that would be enough to get him. And second, Gobert is a downgrade on offense compared to Cap. He's literally Shaqtin-a-Fool on offense. 

The idea ANYONE would get into a bidding war for Ben freaking Simmons just goes to show how gullible humans are.

Simmons is garbage - soft, a head case, with HUGE holes in his game. Why can’t you see that?!? Harden, Westbrook, Kyrie, Simmons, Gobert are all EXACTLY the same. They have no heart, extremely limited skills, and will NEVER win anything.

Stop coming up with fantasy trades for soft bums. If this team truly wants to improve, that’s Lavine or Ayton. The rest of those bums are worthless.

I check in and out on this board every so often, and I have to say, it’s so comforting to see how committed this group is to the whole “my sources tell me” BS.

Supes had most of you going for awhile before folks figured out he was full of it, but now to see copycat “insiders” just warms my heart. LOL

3 hours ago, AtLaS said:

Ehh, struggling to defend Giannis and Embiid doesn't make someone a bad defender.  He has had 2 series in a row with nightmare matchups.  Capela is a solid defender, but certainly not a lockdown stopper.  Regardless, there are very few players that can effectively guard those players. 

That being said I'm not convinced either that Capella our best option to be guarding Giannis.  But who else do we put on him?  We really don't have a better answer.  Collins is too small, and Hill has zero chance.  Hunter would probably have the best shot if healthy. 

I think we need to focus on the others, Giannis pretty consistently gets 30 regardless of matchup.  

 

He plays in the EC. Who did you think he was going to go up against? He’s either up tot the task or he’s not. And he’s not.

Explain to me again why so many want LouWill back? He is HORRIBLE.

23 minutes ago, kg01 said:

When has a harden-centric team competed for a title?

So by that logic, Lakers never should have signed AD.

First, I loved the off-season moves and am as excited about Hawks basketball as I have been in a long time.

Second, I do expect them to exceed even the already “high” expectations of taking the next step to the playoffs. I think we’re better than Indy. And call me crazy, but I see Philly and / or Miami falling off this year.

All of that said, we can’t compete with Raptors or Celtics or Bucks. Is there a move that doesn’t kill our depth but still puts us in a better spot for a shot at the title? How about Harden for Hunter, Okungwu, Huerter, 1st? Would expect Rockets to demand Cam, but I wouldn’t make that deal. I would, however, not think twice about trading Hunter, Huerter, 1st. Losing Okungwu hurts, no doubt. But you don’t acquire someone like Harden without giving up talent.

Thoughts? I just don’t see us competing for a title, even with the recent improvements, without more.

In an analysis of this season's top 50 scorers, Smoove ranks:

48th in FG%

50th in 3PTFG% (not really 50th, but dead last among shooters attempting at least 0.2 3PTs/game)

49th in FT% (only ahead of Dwight)

That, my friends, is Josh Smith's game in a nutshell.

We know Marvin and Al will be out, but any idea on the status of Calderon, O'Neal and Kapono?

The Raptors were really short-handed yesterday, so if they're shorthanded again today, I don't see how we can't run them off the floor -- even given our own injury woes.

Fixed it for you.