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The next move is going to be the hardest for the fans.......we have to be absolutely dreadful for a year and pray CP3 and D12 dont sign with anyone else.

I actually like Stephen A. There are more than enough boring, lets just give the stats, guys on tv. I want a few guys who arent scared to step up and give their opinion, kinda like Herm Edwards. If you want stats just listen to Stuart Scott, he has enough meaningless numbers for 3 lifetimes. Only thing worse than a stat reader is the guy who never gives you an answer one way or another, just always right down the middle playing both sides. If you have an opinion then state it, dont be scared of the repercussions.The Quite Frankly show was actually pretty good. He actually asked questions that werent your standard beat reporter questions. Him and the guests seemed like they were having real conversations, not the same variation of interview athletes give all season long.

Because your superstar is not supposed to just give you a solid game. We cant rely on this guy for crap when it counts. This season Josh Smith took the next step to being the best player on the team.

It was a complete joke to hear the TNT guys saying "oh, he tripped", "incidental contact". You know Kenny admitted he's rooting for the Celtics to win, but have some level of professionalism why don't ya. Anyway, Rondo should definitely be suspended, but the Hawks can't worry about that. They've got to worry about getting three more wins.

They were joking during that part of the show. Barkley was laughing and saying how nobody but a fool would believe he tripped into him and it was accidental. Shaq just kept trying to be an idiot saying he was bracing himself while falling, he was laughing while trying to say it.

Joe not a #1 option type. He just doesn't have the scoring ability. No one is saying Joe>>>T-Mac from an ability or talent perspective. But T-Mac is a major reason why his teams never achieved what they were capable of. T-Mac is like Terrell Owens in that way.

So in the seasons he put up 28+ points, 5 assists, and 6 rebounds a game he was the reason the didnt team didnt achieve more? You think he should have put up 40 a game?

I think you should look at that Orlando roster real quick.

Yes I can. T-Mac was a big part of the reason why his team never had great records or went past the first round.

When you sign 2 max contract players that doesnt leave room for many other quality pieces so when one of those max contract players falls off the earth what can you do? Off the top of your head can you name the 2nd best player on those Orlando teams? Darrell Armstrong? A broke down Penny?

You cant ask for more than 25, 5, and 5. T-Mac gave you that numerous times in his career, JJ never has and never will.

LOL at T-Mac not being a legit superstar in the league.  If the Grant Hill situation didnt completely waste his years in Orlando they may have been able to do something.

Also i hate to say it but he is right, he should be getting more minutes.  He is the best option we have coming off the bench and should be getting more time than Marvin. I was actually disappointed that he came here. I knew he had something to offer but on this team and with this coaching staff there is no way he would get a good chance to show anything.

We will know where we stand after February. Our schedule wont include all the weak teams we have been playing. We only play 4 games against teams under 500 where in January we played 10.

Look at our February schedule, if we take care of business in that month then they will have choice but to talk about us.

Lets hope these arent the old Hawks who havent seen a team too bad to lose to.

Quotes are everywhere, problem is they are fans quotes based on speculation on this board. Not direct quotes from either player about being best friends since high school. Still not seen one of those .... 8 years and counting.

So Smoove asked someone he isnt good friends with to be the best man at his wedding?

And where is this quote that they are best friends? Seems like since they are always together according to you and others, finding just one would not be like brain surgery....

I have been posting on this site for over eight years. Heard all the board member rumors about how close they are, but honest to God, I have never seen one clear cut quote from either one of them....just saying you know.

You said and i quote "for all we know they cannot stand each other off the court". Now if they couldnt stand each other why would they always be hanging out together at each others events?

I have never seen one quote where either player called each other their best friend. They played together in high school, for all we know they cannot stand each other off the court.

They both recently cohosted a benefit bowling event that was all over the news in Atlanta. Matter of fact most of the charity events that Howard hosts, Smoove attends.

Are there really even that many teams better then us this year? Just looking at the league right now everyone looks really beatable

How many teams would be 2-0 with 2 blowouts if their first 2 games were the Nets and Wizards? Im guessing a lot.

Agreed - but tonight we ran into a great PG (I was worried we would run out of guys to foul him) and a hot Vince Young - a guy who can change a game by himself. They had reasonable bigs too....and we still blew them out.

Now I will be the FIRST to admit we have basically shot the h#ll out of the ball the first two games. But good teams DO shoot well.

I remember as a youngster watching the NBA stats via the newspaper. I always keyed in on team shooting %age..

Well this Wizards team also lost to the terrible Nets. Thats all that needs to be said about the Wizards.

I dont want it to seem like im hating on the team already. I just want to see this team go through some legit competition before i make a judgment.

Lets not fall into the same track that Falcons fans have where you beat up on very bad teams and think you are world beaters then when a good team shows up you get smoked.

I dont think we would have to worry about having a lamar odom type situation we are not the lakers

lol

Yeah, well im sure our players still dont like reading that they are expendable. It has to cause at least a little distrust with management.

I dont like info like this coming out now. What benefit does it serve for our players to find out they were being used as trade bait? Our beat writer needs to let this die and move along.

GSU i dont care what you say, when Rose gets barely bumped by one person, stays on his feet, and gets the call opposed to when our guys get hit by 2-3 people and end up on the ground and there is nothing then you have a problem. All athletes ask is for you to be consistent with your calls. You cant call it one way for one team and then a different way for the other.

I also thought this topic was about Kenny Smith.

Dont just blame the national media. If you go to the Hawks section on AJC the "blown call" is the big picture headline. Seems we cant even get respect in Atlanta.

What this guy doesn't seem to grasp is he would get so many easy baskets if he would simply run the floor. Too many times last game Josh Smith was the very last guy to reach the offensive end of the court. Thats after a made basket by Chicago or a possession in which we forced a turnover. If he would run the floor he would get to the rim just by being more athletic than his defender. Instead he jogs up the court, stands by the 3 point line, and then chucks if someone passes him the ball.

He's not an idiot. That's insulting. Just because someone plays a game differently than others want him to play, doesn't make him an idiot. It makes him a coaches headache. That's what Josh is. Just like we deal with headaches, LD deals with Josh. He's a major part of this team, and we're doing pretty well right now. The 3-11 shooting last night was bad, but he made plays in the 4th that got us a big win. Isn't that part of the bigger picture?

If the slowest guy on a baseball team consistently tries to steal 2nd and gets thrown out 90% of the time that would make him an idiot. Josh Smith consistently takes and misses outside jumpers........

Is Smoove our Manny?

~lw3

Since when did Smoove put up anything resembling HOF numbers?

Looking at our schedule we could win 7 of our next 10 games. If this happens please dont start crying that the media isnt giving us enough attention. We have already seen what happens when we play even halfway decent squads.

It only takes up 60 pixels in height so it's not making that much difference in scrolling. If you can only see one post now then you could only have seen one post plus a tiny bit extra before.

You're always welcome to switch to the other skins from the drop down menu in the lower left.

I dont see the skins menu, can you tell me exactly what to click. I see my screen name and a menu there.

The scoreboard combined with the tool bar at the bottom is def. taking up too much real estate