Marvin24Williams

His defense is horrific and his shot selction is not there yet.

Simply put.......Mo and Wilkens are better options at the wings right now. With JJ out, Drew's job is to win games ......not grow talent at the expense of winning games.

Wilkens came in the Heat game for his first NBA action in 8 months and did an excellent defensive job on Lebron. We simply can't expect that type of veteran play out of Jordan Crawford right now.

Drew simply has 4 better wing options then Jordan Crawford. Seems pretty easy to see his logic.

Yup. Until Crawford2 works on his defense, i don't see him getting any PT.

haha yeah diesel, I wish we did that trade.

If marv is hurting then yeah

MO EVANS HAS NO BUSINESS STARTING IN A SINGLE NBA GAME, NOR GETTING 20+ MINUTES. LD READ THIS POST PLEASE.

PLAYED GREAT D TONIGHT. THIS PICKUP IS GOAT

WILKINS > EVANS, ETAN, ZAZA, COLLINS

Cause Marv goona dunk on you!

Predict Marvs stat line here.

I predict: 20pts 5-10rebs, and he will hold Lebron to 18-20 pts. And anyone have any news on pape?

For me it's James Poseys shot selection

91 shots in total, 81 of them have been 3 point attempts. :laugh:

What's yours?

with Joe gone, Marvin will explode for 26pts 10rebs

Rejoice Marvin fans!!! If there are any other fans besides me.... :(

1. Marvin 20 10 Williams

2. Zaza Pachulia

3. Jason Collins

4. Josh Powell

5. Jeff Teague

Not the fault of the point guard play, Bibby or Teague, on the last loss.

When you can't score, you can't win. Simple as that.

Last game, both our all star and our 6th man of the year failed to do their part in the scoring.

Our center leads the NBA in field goal %. Last game he had 20 points and 20 rebounds. Not bad.

Coach wants an up tempo game with loads of energy. That's the way this team is built. Notice

how we were not playing up tempo. In fact, they all played as if they were tired. Can't blame

our coach for that.

Yeah. I want them to win a lot more, too. Sometimes, they look so bad. Then, they can turn around

and look so good. Don't know why this happens, but we all know that it does.

:whistling:

Exactly. people need to realize that while our pgs are a problem, its not our only problem holding this team back from winning.

Limiting his minutes doesn't fix the problem because he's getting his hand hit during the game.

Completely sitting Joe Johnson is a stupid idea. Limiting his minutes should be the solution as he can still contribute something to his team.

Start Joe and limit his minutes.

Give JC2 atleast 15-20 mins a night.

Wrong. idk what the problem is, but its more then just a pg.

You understand we run a motion don't you? Plus Craw can't run an offense yet he is basically our PG. It is funny how you guys want Jack/Billups and then say Louis can't run an offense. Louis is a better scorer/defender than Crawford and isn't afraid of contact. Nocioni is an upgrade just for the fact that he can stretch the floor and is much tougher than Marv. Speights is an upgrade over all our bigs.

Yeah, Craw plays at PG but have you noticed how bad our offense looks when hes in at PG? Now you get Williams who is very much like crawford, a shoot first type player. I don't know where you get this info but Williams is NOT a better scorer then crawford, nor is he a great defender. Nocioni can very much space the floor, but I do not want to trade for an aged SF who is declining

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5740709

Louis Williams, Marreese Speights, Andres Nocioni and Jason Kapono for Jamal Crawford, Marvin Williams and Mike Bibby

Get it done Sund. Sixers get the scoring guard they need a potential SF in Marvin and a vet in Bibby that can menton Jrue.

Hawks bring Louis Williams home and can share PG/SG duties with Joe Johnson. Louis Williams can get to the FT line like no bodies business. Marreese Speights is a solid young big to backup Smoove/Horf (has been in the Collins' Doug house) We also get a bruiser in Nocioni and a three point specialist (and expirer) in Kapono.

PG Louis Williams/Jeff Teague

SG Joe Johnson/Jordan Crawford

SF Andres Nocioni/Mo Evans/Jason Kapono

PF Josh Smith/Marreese Speights/Josh Powell

C Al Horford/Marreese Speights/Zaza

Louis WIlliams can't run an offense. Nocioni is not an upgrade over Marvin. Crawford is more valuable then speights. Don't get it done Sund.

I think having Billups won't do much. Hes playing now like his age has finally caught up to him like Bibbs. Don't get me wrong though, he is a definite upgrade over Bibby. I think we should trade for a young PG

Arenas - No

Calderon - Ew

Jack - Yes please

B. Diddy - Depends on his injury

TJ Ford - Ew

Maurice Williams - Ew

Daniel Gibson - Ew

Beno Udrih - Eh

Kyle Lowry - Maybe

Chauncey Billups - Yes please

Yes. Bibby always clips his nails short on the bench, joe always needs his 20+ , Josh Smith whines about every call, Horf is Horf, and Marvins walk has an attitude

Jason Thompson would of been a heck of an upgrade over Zaza. I would of did this then traded Craw-filler for a PG.

Exactly!!

He may not be an all star pg but he is easily an upgrade over bibby and teague. He can defend very well and averages 2 spg. Might not have the shooting ability like bibby, but he can still shoot the ball nontheless.

Horford was boss at the ft line....

A CENTER. WE DONT NEED A PG TEAGUE AND BIBBY WILL PROVE YOU WRONG.

Is he still injured or what? With Marvin out we can atleast give him 5-10 minutes a game and see what he can contribute to our team, if anything.......

How do people not realize smith is not at his best at the 3 position? He can't space the floor, and his perimeter defense is just horrible.