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haha is that devon harris ? Ball breakdown gives a nice review but using outdated stock images.

SI calling us NBA final contenders

 

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As you can see technology confuses me.

Golden State  32.8% odds of winning finals

 

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds

To be honest , I feel the Hawks are getting a lot of love ... On a daily basis NBA.com has one or two positive Hawks articles ...tweets from Lang Whitaker and Sekou show Hawks love ...espn is getting on the act with Stein giving us number one on power ranking and a slew of videos and podcasts and tweets proclaiming us to be legit ...NBA TV with Ernie and Kenny even shaq are showing Hawks support ...furthermore since TNT and NBA studios are based in ATLANTA it seems there is some homerism brewing with "the Starters" and NBA TV crew. In fact I have not read or seen anything saying we are not real except one or two isolated low or no impact journalist ..who only come to attention because they are mentioned in this forum .. Either way it seems the mainstream media is starting to believe on the other hand the casual fan will take time

@GreyMule

More importantly we are three up in the loss column!

@kg01

These numbers are taken from a combination of Hollingers Power Rankings and ESPN expanded standings both available on ESPN.com

Mad Hawks love on NBA.com

 

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nba_tv/2015/01/03/20150103-gt-da-on-hawks.nba/

 

http://www.nba.com/2015/news/features/david_aldridge/01/05/morning-tip-atlanta-hawks-rising-in-eastern-conference-tribute-to-stuart-scott-what-about-future-of-milwaukee-bucks-qa-with-aaron-brooks-and-mike-conley/index.html

 

and  as mentioned above hawks power ranking

 

http://www.nba.com/2015/news/powerrankings/01/05/week10/index.html

Is it O.K. to cry?

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nba_tv/2015/01/02/20150102-gt-atlanta-hawks-update.nba/

 

Grant Hill and David Aldridge discuss Hawks sale.

 

Aldridge says Hawks 100% for sale is premature. 

 

Aldridge says Hawks are a Jewel and gives mad props to Ferry.

 

Hill and Aldridge both say players love to live and play in Atl and with a new ownership this could be a special franchise in the league.

 

Both say Hawks will go for $700 mill plus. 

#putemonskates

#putemonskates

NBA HANGTIME Blog : are the Bulls the team to beat in the east ?

Steve Aschburner, NBA.com: This is the best Bulls team since Michael Jordan retired for the second time, as far as depth and potential, so there’s no reason – on paper – that it shouldn’t get to The Finals. Cleveland, more than its general meshing, has a problem in Anderson Varejao‘s injury that might not get fixed until the offseason. Toronto, in postseason savvy, is a step behind Washington. And the Wizards, for all the confidence they gained last spring, would have trouble defending against this more-potent Chicago lineup. Atlanta? I respect the Hawks, but one-trick ponies have trouble in seven-game series. So the biggest question for Chicago remains Derrick Rose‘s long-term health and availability. Which means the “who” who might stop the Bulls must be … uh, trainer Jeff Tanaka? (Just kidding, Jeff)

Atlanta? I respect the Hawks, but one-trick ponies have trouble in seven-game series.

What is our one trick ??...winning ..this guy makes no sense we are top 10 in offense and defense rating our only weakness is rebounding ..,but to call us one trick Is nonsense .

We apparently have the best record in the league vs top 12 teams at 6 -4 as per NBA.com/yahoo . All other contenders are below .500.

http://nyti.ms/1wvr7zm

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N.B.A. Game of the Week: Cavaliers at Hawks

By JONAH BROMWICH DEC. 29, 2014

The Atlanta Hawks, who host the Cleveland Cavaliers at 7:30 Eastern on Tuesday

(NBA TV), have won 15 of their last 17 games and have risen to second place in the

Eastern Conference. While their schedule was fairly easy for the first six weeks,

they recently took a brief trip to the middle of the country and were able to beat the

Rockets and the Mavericks before returning home and stealing one away from the

Clippers in the fourth quarter. Those are all good teams. Are the Hawks a good

team, too?

They have been a decent one since 2007-8 and have gone to the playoffs every

year since. But within that span, they have yet to make it past the conference

semifinals, and because of that, they have become a stable — and relatively dull —

mediocrity, good for the East but never really standing out in the league as a whole.

But Atlanta has seen a lot of turnover in the past few seasons, and just as with

other newly successful teams in the N.B.A., it is possible to trace portions of their

program back to the San Antonio Spurs. The Hawks’ general manager, Danny

Ferry, and coach, Mike Budenholzer, are Spurs alumni, and the team’s newly

exciting offense, much like most of the successful offenses in the N.B.A. this

season, owes a lot to San Antonio.

That means prioritizing the team over any one player, and the Hawks’ ball

movement shows their believe in that philosophy. The team is tied for the league

 

lead in assists per game, and because no one player dominates the ball, none of the

Hawks’ scoring numbers leap out. The scoring is distributed: In their last five wins,

they had five leading scorers.

Some of the players contributing in Atlanta will be familiar to N.B.A. fans. The

journeyman Kyle Korver has been with the Hawks for the past three seasons, and

the longtime starters Jeff Teague and Al Horford continue to help out on both sides

of the ball.

Some newer names are also starting to pitch in, including DeMarre Carroll,

who in his second season in Atlanta has put together some big games, including a

career-high 25-pointer against the Clippers on Tuesday night. Carroll is unlikely to

become a star, but he is a hard worker with a decent jump shot, and he gives

Atlanta an extra boost of energy. Another promising player is the Hawks’ leading

scorer off the bench, Dennis Schröder, a fleet 21-year-old whose jump shot has

improved significantly since last season.

Carroll and Schröder contributed to Atlanta’s 29-point domination of the

Cleveland Cavaliers on Dec. 17, but neither was the Hawks’ high scorer. That honor

went to Shelvin Mack, a third-string point guard who does not usually see the floor

when the game is on the line. That’s the thing about these new-look Hawks,

though: Any one player can put them over the top.

Not that it is so difficult to score against the Cavs. They are one of the worst

defensive teams in the league in terms of opponents’ field-goal percentage, and

their defensive rating has suffered accordingly, as they allow about 105 points for

every hundred possessions. We knew early in the season that the Cavaliers’ defense

was going to need some work, but individual defensive performances are still a

major issue in Cleveland, particularly with the loss of Anderson Varejao, who is out

for the rest of the season with a torn Achilles’ tendon.

Kevin Love, whatever his contributions may be on offense, is simply a sieve on

the other end, so much so that Coach David Blatt benched him through the fourth

quarter of Friday’s game against the Orlando Magic. According to an ESPN Stats &

Info post on Twitter that received a lot of attention, the Magic shot 57 percent with

Love in the game and only 35 percent with him on the bench.

The Cavaliers may have a bad defense, but they are not a miserably bad team

 

over all. They are simply less appealing than they were expected to be. Even when a

team has just added LeBron James to its roster, there is no such thing as an instant

contender.

The Cavaliers are very much in the playoff mix in the East, and they have more

than half a season left to work out their issues. With the dismantling of the

conference’s two best teams from the last couple of seasons, the top seeds on the

lesser coast are still up for grabs. It is not much of a stretch to say that both Atlanta

and Cleveland are likely to be competing for top playoff slots come April.

© 2014 The New York Times Company

N.B.A. Game of the Week: Cavaliers at Hawks - NYTimes.com.pdf

We are 26 th in the league in rebounding . How good would our team be and how good would our defensive rating be if we could rebound the ball better. The clippers who are worse then us at rebounding killed us on the offensive glass . However it is hard to find a big man who can hit the outside shot on offensive and rebound the shit out of the ball on defensive ..,hmmm how about Payne ?

Hollinger Power Ranking #2

 

Rating 106.758

 

CBS Sports Rank 2

 

The Hawks are as good on offense per possession (7th) as they are on defense per possession (No. 7), and are winning games they should and games vs. tough opponents (like Saturday's win vs. the Rockets). Maybe, just maybe, this is a Hawks team you can believe in.

 

NBA .com  Rank 4

 

Someone needs to figure out what the Hawks ate for Thanksgiving, because they've been a totally different (defensive) team since then. Their only loss came at the buzzer, and after wins against the Bulls, in Cleveland and in Houston, you can throw the weak-schedule thing out the window. Maybe Spurs fans can adopt Spurs East for a while.

 

ESPN (Marc Stein)  Rank Pending 

 

As of last Monday, Atlanta had played the NBA's weakest schedule. On this Monday, Atlanta is reveling in wins over Chicago (home), Cleveland (road) and Houston (road), generating more Spurs East talk than ever and making me look good (for a change) for picking Mike Bud as preseason COY.

 

 

Oh by the way were ranked number 1 by Stein in 2009 but week 3 ...Yes this is the deepest in the season we have been ranked so high in well over 15 years! Sad but true. Go Hawks 

Respect ! Monday we should be top 5 in the major power rankings! Is this the deepest in the season we have been ranked so high? I remember we were ranked one on ESPN a few years back but it was prolly in Novemeber..

espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings

The Net Rtg of -7.9 is from Johns rookie season. This is not ideal but as you rightly said this years sample size is too small and last year he was injured. This is the best NBA data we have on him.

It seems Net rating for Jenkins is -15 this year and was -7.9 in 2012-2013, where Mack is -3.3 for this year and two years ago. That explains why mack gets PT and JJ doesn't.

 

Same with Pero he is + 13 in Net Rtg  this year while Muscala is -2.3.  Moose this year has shown a PIE greater than 11, indicating he is better than the average NBA player, so he probably will see more PT soon. 

I too have been wondering the lack of playing time for our young players, http://hawksquawk.net/community/topic/401400-put-shelvin-in-a-suit-please/?p=737000. I presumed it was Jenkins lack of D that was limiting his court time and it was puzzling that Anti&#263;, who seems to miss so many shots, is on the court so much. 

 

Thus I decided to do some research and see what the numbers were between head to head match ups. 

 

John Jenkins vs Shelvin Mack

 

Since John was out with a bad back I decided to compare the 2012-2013 years for both players.

 

 

 

Overall GP MIN OffRtg DefRtg NetRtg AST% AST/TO AST Ratio OREB% DREB% REB% TO Ratio eFG% TS% USG% PACE PIE John Jenkins 61 14.8 98.0 105.9 -7.9 10.5 1.40 13.3 2.1 9.6 5.8 9.5 53.6 57.6 18.3 95.22 9.2 Shelvin Mack 31 13.4 100.8 104.1 -3.3 26.5 2.00 28.9 0.8 9.6 5.4 14.5 53.2 53.7 18.9 94.04 8.1

 

John's Net Rtg is even worse this year -15.5, while Shelvin has remained stable at -3.3. 

 

Caveat: John's PIE is higher despite having a worse Net Rtg

 

Muscala vs Anti&#263; 2013-2014

 

 

Overall GP MIN OffRtg DefRtg NetRtg AST% AST/TO AST Ratio OREB% DREB% REB% TO Ratio eFG% TS% USG% PACE PIE Mike Muscala 20 10.7 94.5 114.8 -20.3 5.8 0.58 7.1 8.9 20.6 14.4 12.2 42.5 48.0 19.2 98.04 6.5 Pero Anti&#263; 50 18.5 104.7 101.0 3.8 10.0 1.05 13.3 7.0 18.9 12.9 12.6 51.4 54.5 18.2 96.67 7.7

 

Muscala vs Anti&#263; 2014-2015

 

 

Overall GP MIN OffRtg DefRtg NetRtg AST% AST/TO AST Ratio OREB% DREB% REB% TO Ratio eFG% TS% USG% PACE PIE Mike Muscala 7 10.7 96.9 99.2 -2.4 6.4 0.60 8.1 16.4 10.4 13.4 13.4 57.4 59.9 19.6 97.31 11.0 Pero Anti&#263; 19 16.8 104.6 91.0 13.7 7.4 1.23 12.3 5.8 12.4 9.0 10.0 44.4 49.3 15.6 98.41 5.0

 

Lessons learned:

 

1) John despite being a better scorer gives up too much on D, negating any of his offensive benefit, while Shelvin seems to hold his own.

2) Pero is an advanced stat monster, showing a big positive Net Rtg. While Mike has improved his Net Rtg, he is almost 15 points worse then Pero. But givens Mike's PIE and the fact his Net Rtg is almost equal this year he probably will see more playing time this season. 

It's hard to complain when you are winning like we have , however I will . I agree Jenkins , Payne, Muscula should be getting more playing time . I am not saying play them exclusively but they can eat into PT of Kent, Pero, Mack. It was good to see Muscula get PT and produce today. I don't know what JJ has done to be in CMB dog house . We could have used his shooting tonight.