Swiftkick

Ill take Collison & West for Horford & Marvin

PG Collison

SG Joe

SF Josh ..let him see if he can handle the 3

PF West

C Shaq

I can live with that

If we bring in Paul to be honest id rather package Horford in deal..Paul &Smith = Josh reaching potential

If we can bring in Melo we can ship Josh

just my 2 cents

his body is to beat up..he is Mike Bibby in 2 years

Joe, Shaq, Horf, Paul = Championship in Atlanta.

i can live with that

Nuggets aren't trafing Carmelo Anthony

I think they are..He has house on sale..they asked him to sign ext ..They def dont want him to to leave for nothing

and what could the Knicks offer more then us ?

Its possible..Pair him along with Joe..Move AL to PF ...sign Shaq

we are a legit championship team

I love Melo's offensive game (no glaring flaws at all), but his persona and character just rub me the wrong way, along with playing D only when he wants to or if he's on primetime and asked to step up to the challenge of checking Kobe or LeBron for a spell. Western Conference Finals one year, bounced out the First Round the next. He doesn't deserve all the blame (I despise George Karl's ideals and style), but there's just something missing to his leadership and intangibles, not to mention you can pen him in to miss 10-20 games a season. I'll pass, even if there were a possiblility.

Melo shows up though in playoffs.He cant do it by himself

Pair him with a guy like Joe Johnson who can shoulder some of the load ..he will be the player that puts us over the top

Maybe this part??

Marvin Williams/Teague/ Josh Smith/ Jordan Crawford for Carmelo/Ty Lawson.

Think that is a pretty fair trade for both sides..

Hawks get Melo who would then need to sign a long term contract .. who is he is not doing in Denver..Melo is a star no doubt but a star that Denver is about to lose for maybe nothing

and a back up point guard in Lawson who would be starting for us.

Nuggets get

Josh Smith a potential star in right system..put him along Chauncey and he will see more potential

Marvin Williams a nice player nothing more has also not reached his potential

Jordan Crawford in 4 years can be a 20ppg game scorer if given the playing time

Teague ...backup pg

I would like to either ship Josh or Horford ..

If we able to get Chris Paul we should keep Josh Smith

If we able to get another scorer a guy like Melo ..we ship Josh

Then Marc Gasol a RFA next year ..or sign Shaq for 2 years

2 Rosters we could work with

PG Paul

SG Joe

SF Marvin

PF Smith

C Shaq

PG Ty Lawson

SG Joe

SF Melo

PF Horford

C Shaq

Some of these posts are ridiculous. I want what you all are smoking.

what is so crazy about that scenario ?

not happening LOL..

It just a dream

Looks like he not going to sign ..has also put his house up for sale..we all keep hearing likely destination for Melo is NY ..well lets be the first one to go to Denver with a legit offer.. Id rather pair Joe with a Carmelo then with a Chris Paul..Also if we had to take on Paul we would more then likely take on Oakfor contract

so whatever it takes lets make it happen management.

Im figuring they want a decent package..Marvin Williams/Teague/ Josh Smith/ Jordan Crawford for Carmelo/Ty Lawson...Nuggets could then plus Josh Smith and move K Mart

Salaries match up 18 million

Starting 2010 ATLANTA HAWKS

PG Ty Lawson

SG Joe Johnson

SF Carmelo

PF Horford

C Shaq

Thats a legit championship caliber team

think we should call Joe " Allan Houston " from now on

Joe Johnson doesn't want to be here and hopefully the max contract doesn't stop the Knicks from doing a sign and trade with us

I will gladly take Wilson Chandler and Eddy Curry expiring contract ..

Then we can really make some moves and dangle the Curry contract to a team strapped for cash ..

We can then make solid offers for Paul or Melo

let's not get carried away, Gasol was so-so in the playoffs.

wait wat ?? Gasol should have won finals MVP .. he has 1 below avg game

23 &14

25 &8

21&6

13&10

12&12

17&13

19&18

Gasol couldn't make the playoffs without kobe.

Wade carried his team on his back to a title.

Both pistons and spurs had elite backcourts when they won titles with manu and parker plus big shot billups and rip hamilton.

You just argued yourself out of the discussion.

Besides you totally miss the quote "the nba is a guard driven league right now."

You are trying to make a ten year old argument.

I'm living in the is which is an nba that has changed significantly since the hand check rule was changed.

You're living in the was.

You used to be able to get away with murder on defense, now the guard gets the call in the lane. The nba is a guard driven league now.

It works both ways I agree but if you dont have those big men your not winning a chip..Josh Smith/Al Horford imo are not championship big men

but neither is Joe Johnson at guard..

Guard driven league is cause the stars basically all played guard and the LACK of dominating big men is missing like it once was but this is BIG MANS league still til date ..Your not winning coming playoff time if you dont have the bigs inside..

Why do you think none of the ALL TIME GREAT point guards the NBA has ever seen not win a title

Jason Kidd, Steve Nash are arguably in the top 7 greatest point guards in NBA history and they will go ringless cause teams went up against the BIG MEN

id rather have Josh Childress at SF then Marvin ..

every time I see Marvin on the court I say to myself what if we took Chris Paul..what if....Marvin Williams has no potential no clue why we gave this guy a extension

I can find some player on some nba bench that would contribute just as much as Marvin ..

Lebron wanted Shaq..he got him

Lebron wanted Jamison...he got him

best is when people say washed up Shaq he was real solid in playoffs ..Tired of that talk..Lebron didnt show up in game 5 and doesnt have the thrive or hunger/killer instinct Wade/Kobe have..

The Hawks cant get anyone here with Joe Johnson cause no one is really available ...plus Joe isnt that type of personality to recruit ..Joe is very lazy /quiet demeanor in his approach

The nba is a guard driven league right now.

Disagree..Kobe aint winning a ring without Gasol or the likes of Shaq

Spurs won a championships cause of Duncan

Pistons won cause of team length

Its nice to have that star guard Wade,Kobe, but they need that big man to win..

Durant aint winning a chip till he gets that force inside as well

let him wait is a tough decision like wade said this is more than just basketball this about where he might finish his career and wanna start a family and wht not....its been 2 days he has till july 8 to officially sign give the man some space

if this such player was anywhere in the same ball park as Wade and actually lead us to a championship..Ill give him all the time to make a decision

but this is a player that has choked in the playoffs , basically showed up the fan base to boot

I could see this feeling making sense if Wade, Dirk, Lebron, Amare, etc had already chosen teams ANDif it had been more than TWO doggone days. Why the heck shpould Joe treat his free agency anydifferent than those guys???? The fact that it has ONLY BEEN TWO DAYS is why all this whining makes no sense to me. If the situation is unchanged a week from now AND other big name free agents have signed THEN I could see your point. Until then it ismuch ado about nothing in my opinion.

First off Im not whining im setting boundaries ..That is what you do ..

Dirk going back to Dallas..he opted out of his contract Dallas said here is a deal and he is going to resign he isnt mulling options

Amare is heading to NY ..Phx said were not going 5 years ..Amare said im heading to NY for the max

Joe Johnson on other hand we offer MAX ..he mulls options .

What our fan base needs to stop doing is acting like Joe Johnson is a savior ..we are not even sure if we are able to bring in another star would him and Joe Johnson co consist and would it even be possible to with giving Joe a max type deal..We have basically seen as far as we can go with Joe...Joe is not Wade..Wade carried the Heat in the playoffs ..I dont want to hear the HEAT had Shaq daddy ..Wade no questions asked you want 120 million boom you can have it

Joe Johnson what has he proven that he is worth that kind of money . Im willing to bet we plug Jammal Crawford in at the 2 next year and Jordan Crawford develops just a lil as a sixth man..This team is 40 + win team and possible playoff team..There are some fans that think once Joe leaves we are heading for the gutter..BE REAL PEOPLE..How many games has Joe Johnson really won on his back..Maybe 3 years ago the playoff series vs Boston was nice but what since then

Im at the point I dont care if we get anything for Joe Johnson or not..If we are able to pull a sign and trade hey the more the merry ..I dont want this offer on table

so if things dont plan out with Lebron or whatever he is planning dont want to use us as a fall back option

. What player ever wanted to play in Atlanta. Oh, that's right.. Joe Johnson... Our only superstar who you guys want to Dominique out of here? Go figure.

well LOOOOOK what we have here our only player that wanted to play here Joe Johnson ??? well we just offered him a MAX contract and he is mulling that decision so you might really want to start questioning if Joe really wants to be here

and that is the point of pulling the offer..Its on the table Joe you have 1 day to give us a commitment if you dont want to be here we will move on

What in the world gives you the idea that Collison, Gasol, or Melo even want to play in Atlanta? I have hear not a peep out of Melo's situatuion. New Orleans isnt giving up a potential starter in Collision for cheap. Hell, even Gasol is likely to stay with the Grizzlies. So what makes you so confident that you can put this team together, when you would have a tough time pulling those kind of signings in NBA 2k10?

Collison/Peja would come here for Josh Smith & Marvin Williams... New Orleans would love to pair Josh with Paul and see how that works..they could then look to move West for depth

why would Gasol come here $$$$ if we come to him next off season with a big time offer why wouldnt he..

We would then have 3 nice young pieces in play .(Collison,Jordan Crawford, Al Horford)

Those are all 3 young pieces..we go hard at Gasol get that big men to pair with Horford

Then make that run AT CARMELO

Carmelo has his record label in the city of ATLANTA

His wife LALA is good friends with alot of people in the area ...plus have 3 young players with ton of potential and a LEGIT big man in Gasol

PG Collison

SG Jordan Crawford

SF Carmelo

PF Al Horford

C Gasol

That is a legit contender that has inside scoring a superstar in Melo a young stud at SG and a PG that can score and create for himself in Collison

PROBLEM SOLVED

1) And when you give a short window, it's because you have a second option you can consummate that is more attractive than the first option. That doesn't apply here.

2) Why do we care if he goes window shopping? What, like we aren't also window shopping as well?

3) Can't help but observe that the "he needs to know" statement sounds like a parent lecturing their adolescent trying to regain control over a situation.

we do have other options..just cause we strapped in Free agency doesnt mean we cant make moves

Paul or Collison out there

and even Melo

why cant we make a run for either and go in that direction

2)If you were presented a Ferrari /lambo/bentley whatever your dream car is while you might not be in the city you want to drive that dream car of yours you are happy that you got that dream car WOULD YOU WINDOW SHOP ??

3)Joe does NEED to know..that we have BEEN very generous with that offer and if he wants to window shop for a better town and better situation so be it

do it with our offer the table

You don't know how bad we would be with Salmons. Salmons doesnt create for himself. He's a slow player. His defense is bad. We would be terrible picking up Salmons. If Joe left, I'd rather just signed Chillz and let him be our SG.. and played Hustle basketball. Salmons is a nope.

Actually, if we lose Joe, I say firesale.

I would ask Horf if he wanted to be the man in Atlanta and if so, I would trade everybody else except Teague, Chillz and Zaza.

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Diesel im with you on fire sale..I actually want that now..

Jammal Crawford, Josh Smith also available..Ill keep Horford.

If we can maybe make a swing for Chris Paul..Ill give them Horford ..Id rather go with combo of Paul& Smith..

Id rather destroy /rebuild this franchise.it can be done we have the pieces.

If we suck next year so be it but we can clear cap space and maybe make run at Melo

PG Collison (if New Orleans wants to keep Paul)

SG Jordan Crawford

SF

PF Al Horford

C

Now make a run at Melo /Marc Gasol

in 1 years..team is rebuilt and primed..