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Ill take Collison & West for Horford & Marvin PG Collison SG Joe SF Josh ..let him see if he can handle the 3 PF West C Shaq I can live with that

If we bring in Paul to be honest id rather package Horford in deal..Paul &Smith = Josh reaching potential If we can bring in Melo we can ship Josh just my 2 cents

his body is to beat up..he is Mike Bibby in 2 years

i can live with that

I think they are..He has house on sale..they asked him to sign ext ..They def dont want him to to leave for nothing and what could the Knicks offer more then us ? Its possible..Pair him along with Joe..Move AL to PF ...sign Shaq we are a legit championship team

Melo shows up though in playoffs.He cant do it by himself Pair him with a guy like Joe Johnson who can shoulder some of the load ..he will be the player that puts us over the top

Think that is a pretty fair trade for both sides.. Hawks get Melo who would then need to sign a long term contract .. who is he is not doing in Denver..Melo is a star no doubt but a star that Denver is about to lose for maybe nothing and a back up point guard in Lawson who would be starting for us. Nuggets get Josh Smith a potential star in right system..put him along Chauncey and he will see more potential Marvin Williams a nice player nothing more has also not reached his potential Jordan Crawford in 4 years can be a 20ppg game scorer if given the playing time Teague ...backup pg

I would like to either ship Josh or Horford .. If we able to get Chris Paul we should keep Josh Smith If we able to get another scorer a guy like Melo ..we ship Josh Then Marc Gasol a RFA next year ..or sign Shaq for 2 years 2 Rosters we could work with PG Paul SG Joe SF Marvin PF Smith C Shaq PG Ty Lawson SG Joe SF Melo PF Horford C Shaq

what is so crazy about that scenario ?

It just a dream

Looks like he not going to sign ..has also put his house up for sale..we all keep hearing likely destination for Melo is NY ..well lets be the first one to go to Denver with a legit offer.. Id rather pair Joe with a Carmelo then with a Chris Paul..Also if we had to take on Paul we would more then likely take on Oakfor contract so whatever it takes lets make it happen management. Im figuring they want a decent package..Marvin Williams/Teague/ Josh Smith/ Jordan Crawford for Carmelo/Ty Lawson...Nuggets could then plus Josh Smith and move K Mart Salaries match up 18 million Starting 2010 ATLANTA HAWKS PG Ty Lawson SG Joe Johnson SF Carmelo PF Horford C Shaq Thats a legit championship caliber team

think we should call Joe " Allan Houston " from now on

Joe Johnson doesn't want to be here and hopefully the max contract doesn't stop the Knicks from doing a sign and trade with us I will gladly take Wilson Chandler and Eddy Curry expiring contract .. Then we can really make some moves and dangle the Curry contract to a team strapped for cash .. We can then make solid offers for Paul or Melo

wait wat ?? Gasol should have won finals MVP .. he has 1 below avg game 23 &14 25 &8 21&6 13&10 12&12 17&13 19&18

It works both ways I agree but if you dont have those big men your not winning a chip..Josh Smith/Al Horford imo are not championship big men but neither is Joe Johnson at guard.. Guard driven league is cause the stars basically all played guard and the LACK of dominating big men is missing like it once was but this is BIG MANS league still til date ..Your not winning coming playoff time if you dont have the bigs inside.. Why do you think none of the ALL TIME GREAT point guards the NBA has ever seen not win a title Jason Kidd, Steve Nash are arguably in the top 7 greatest point guards in NBA history and they will go ringless cause teams went up against the BIG MEN

id rather have Josh Childress at SF then Marvin .. every time I see Marvin on the court I say to myself what if we took Chris Paul..what if....Marvin Williams has no potential no clue why we gave this guy a extension I can find some player on some nba bench that would contribute just as much as Marvin ..

Lebron wanted Shaq..he got him Lebron wanted Jamison...he got him best is when people say washed up Shaq he was real solid in playoffs ..Tired of that talk..Lebron didnt show up in game 5 and doesnt have the thrive or hunger/killer instinct Wade/Kobe have.. The Hawks cant get anyone here with Joe Johnson cause no one is really available ...plus Joe isnt that type of personality to recruit ..Joe is very lazy /quiet demeanor in his approach

Disagree..Kobe aint winning a ring without Gasol or the likes of Shaq Spurs won a championships cause of Duncan Pistons won cause of team length Its nice to have that star guard Wade,Kobe, but they need that big man to win.. Durant aint winning a chip till he gets that force inside as well

if this such player was anywhere in the same ball park as Wade and actually lead us to a championship..Ill give him all the time to make a decision but this is a player that has choked in the playoffs , basically showed up the fan base to boot

First off Im not whining im setting boundaries ..That is what you do .. Dirk going back to Dallas..he opted out of his contract Dallas said here is a deal and he is going to resign he isnt mulling options Amare is heading to NY ..Phx said were not going 5 years ..Amare said im heading to NY for the max Joe Johnson on other hand we offer MAX ..he mulls options .

What our fan base needs to stop doing is acting like Joe Johnson is a savior ..we are not even sure if we are able to bring in another star would him and Joe Johnson co consist and would it even be possible to with giving Joe a max type deal..We have basically seen as far as we can go with Joe...Joe is not Wade..Wade carried the Heat in the playoffs ..I dont want to hear the HEAT had Shaq daddy ..Wade no questions asked you want 120 million boom you can have it Joe Johnson what has he proven that he is worth that kind of money . Im willing to bet we plug Jammal Crawford in at the 2 next year and Jordan Crawford develops just a lil as a sixth man..This team is 40 + win team and possible playoff team..There are some fans that think once Joe leaves we are heading for the gutter..BE REAL PEOPLE..How many games has Joe Johnson really won on his back..Maybe 3 years ago the playoff series vs Boston was nice but what since then Im at the point I dont care if we get anything for Joe Johnson or not..If we are able to pull a sign and trade hey the more the merry ..I dont want this offer on table so if things dont plan out with Lebron or whatever he is planning dont want to use us as a fall back option

well LOOOOOK what we have here our only player that wanted to play here Joe Johnson ??? well we just offered him a MAX contract and he is mulling that decision so you might really want to start questioning if Joe really wants to be here and that is the point of pulling the offer..Its on the table Joe you have 1 day to give us a commitment if you dont want to be here we will move on

Collison/Peja would come here for Josh Smith & Marvin Williams... New Orleans would love to pair Josh with Paul and see how that works..they could then look to move West for depth why would Gasol come here $$$$ if we come to him next off season with a big time offer why wouldnt he.. We would then have 3 nice young pieces in play .(Collison,Jordan Crawford, Al Horford) Those are all 3 young pieces..we go hard at Gasol get that big men to pair with Horford Then make that run AT CARMELO Carmelo has his record label in the city of ATLANTA His wife LALA is good friends with alot of people in the area ...plus have 3 young players with ton of potential and a LEGIT big man in Gasol PG Collison SG Jordan Crawford SF Carmelo PF Al Horford C Gasol That is a legit contender that has inside scoring a superstar in Melo a young stud at SG and a PG that can score and create for himself in Collison PROBLEM SOLVED

we do have other options..just cause we strapped in Free agency doesnt mean we cant make moves Paul or Collison out there and even Melo why cant we make a run for either and go in that direction 2)If you were presented a Ferrari /lambo/bentley whatever your dream car is while you might not be in the city you want to drive that dream car of yours you are happy that you got that dream car WOULD YOU WINDOW SHOP ?? 3)Joe does NEED to know..that we have BEEN very generous with that offer and if he wants to window shop for a better town and better situation so be it do it with our offer the table

Diesel im with you on fire sale..I actually want that now.. Jammal Crawford, Josh Smith also available..Ill keep Horford. If we can maybe make a swing for Chris Paul..Ill give them Horford ..Id rather go with combo of Paul& Smith.. Id rather destroy /rebuild this franchise.it can be done we have the pieces. If we suck next year so be it but we can clear cap space and maybe make run at Melo PG Collison (if New Orleans wants to keep Paul) SG Jordan Crawford SF PF Al Horford C Now make a run at Melo /Marc Gasol in 1 years..team is rebuilt and primed..