Swiftkick

nailed it very well put..

Id rather build the team the right way then stay relevant ..I dont think we will be *ss for the next 5 years without Joe ..Your going overboard..Id rather destroy and rebuild this franchise and draft right..My opinion this team in place is not going past the 2nd round ..so with that being said why bother spending all this kind of money if its truly not a championship team Destroy and REBUILD Let Joe Johnson walk or sign and trade with the Knicks.. bring on Chandler/Eddy Curry get contract off books If New Orleans doesnt want to come off Paul thats fine...how about Collison ? you offer them Josh Smith./Marvin.we take Collison/Peja (whose contract comes off table next season ) PG Collison SG Jordan Crawford SF PF Al Horford C I dont care if the HAWKS WIN 20 games next year as long as they try hard and build team right way with young players and give the young players to develop and you NEVER know if we get in the lottery a nice stud might fall into our laps Then we can become players in the 2011 free agency .with Curry/Peja contract coming off table Lets say we make a run at Melo and Marc Gasol...we would have the cap to do so.. Melo has his business here ..his wife is friends with alot of people in the area 2011 Atlanta Hawks roster PG Collison SG Crawford SF Melo PF Horford C Marc Gasol you know what thats a pretty legit team that could battle in the EAST and be a legit contender..

I run a business so if I offered someone or something what I FEEL is above and beyond the value of that person or that object ..and now is mulling the options I would reevaluate my business plan and without question pull back the offer. I feel I made a bold decision by putting myself out there with a more then generous offer..That person did not want to be here so I have to move on and go in another direction I have been taught in business the person signing the check should always be in control not the other way around

so guess that didnt work out for the Spurs getting Duncan.. Its also not a good look for the Thunder right now with there 3 Durant, Green, Westbrook..there future aint bright :rolleyes: This team we have now is not going anywhere past the 2nd round so why continue to go on..DESTROY AND REBUILD THE FRANCHISE the right way if you care about being relevant so be it..I CARE ABOUT SEEING THE HAWKS WIN A RING... If the Hawks made better decisions drafting wise we would be in a much better place that is for sure then what we are in now

been a Hawks fan for about 20 years or so ..so I wouldnt call that young fan..days of Nique, Plastic Man, Mookie Blaylock ..etcc can go on and on I want a championship team..I dont care for team that makes 2nd round of playoffs but no legit shot at championship Id rather build young core players and DRAFT smartly and maybe get into lottery and get lucky then have the same team like this with no shot at winning a title and be satisfied making the playoffs and losing

what team is going to do a sign and trade for Joe Johnson at 120 million ? have you heard anything..once we did that contract offer we are strapped with him or that offer..that is what im saying we offered him the max and he is still mulling what to do when he should have said yes I would love to come back and I appreciate that big contract offer..Instead we get him mulling his options and weighing it out so now HE IS IN CONTROL ..when we should have been in control or let another team set the stage..say a team would have offered him another contract we come in with a MAX then work out sign and trade

Id rather go back to mediocrity then be strapped with a bad contract of Joe Johnson who is not a max player..just like Knicks were with Allan Houston Joe is not our biggest value piece..He is a FA ..He can do whatever he wants..If he wants to work out a sign and trade so be it Im fine with that but I dont want him crawling back to this franchise when his ultimate plan was to go somewhere else.. Im also fine with letting Joe walk for nothing..pull the offer and let him see what else is out there ..There is a chance he can come back to use for less then max as well if lets say Lebron goes back to Cle and Wade stays in Miami so that would save us money as well

Josh Smith is not a legit 10 PF ....please Amare Bosh Boozer Duncan Gasol Dirk Aldridge Zack now you want to group Lee, Josh, West , Jamison ..so be it you can argue those out for top 10

excellent post

what blockbuster trade ??

exactly nooooooooooo time for games..Its bad enough this franchise thinks your worth 120 million now you got the balls to weigh other options cmon son

Id rather have Josh Childress then the bum Marvin Williams

I understand they cant sign yet ..I want a commitment.. I really dont want Joe back at all in the first place ..but I also dont want to look like a fool of a franchise when say Lebron signs somewhere else and Joe wants to go there for 30 million less ..how would that look on our franchise that a player took 30 mil less just to go play with another player that has never WON a ring either Simple.. Joe we have offered you 120 million..we would like a answer within a day ..If not it was good having you here we are going to look in another direction either by trading for Paul or Melo..we should not be handy capped by a player that doesnt want to be here Let Joe mull his options without a max contract on table

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO What would look worse for the franchise ..we offer JJ Max contract and HE TAKES 30 MILLION Less to go somewhere else or we offer him 120 million and say WE HAVE a deadline cause then we will look to go in another direction and try to make a trade for a Paul or Melo. and move on

why do you think Hawks went right off the bat with the MAX OFFER? why not they just let Joe Johnson be courted by everyone in the NBA ...The Hawks put the offer on the table they are serious about keeping him just like Grizz did with Rudy Gay and you see how QUICK he accepted that . Hawks now look like a soft organization that allows there own free agent to mull things over especially when we could GIVE HIM THE MOST MONEY ..if he was truly happy here or if he wanted to be back he would have signed.Im actually glad he hasnt signed now what we need to do is pull the offer back and then wait to see how free agency plays out

exactly... The Hawks while DUMB made a strong decision by offering Joe this kind of money and offer they said we want you back here is the max ..(90% of us know he isnt worth no where close to it ) but so be it we put the hand out on the table and said HERE it is ..So the Hawks made there strong push to the pile all chips on table..Joe now is mulling decisions and wait and see approach ..Knowing we put all our chips on the table and this will be the biggest pot he takes in yet he still hasnt made a decision and take the pot What we need to do now is say Joe..The offer is on the table now you possibly just cost your self 30 million and maybe more... Wade goes back to Miami..no need for Joe Lebron stays in Cle..Cavs dont have room Nets want Joe...let them offer max Knicks want Joe....see ya ..the max contract is no longer on table..if you want to sign with them for FA so be it if you want that extra year you come back to us we will work a sign and trade.

How would it be stupid..we are offering him the MOST money ..He is familiar with the city and the team..He has made the playoffs/ we have pieces in place and lets not forget he was a choker in the playoffs last year for us that did squaaaaaaaaaaaaa docuhe for us yet we came to bat with a MAX contract offer for this player If he wants to mull what he wants to do let him do it without a max contract offer on the table..Let him wait and see how everything plays out then when some of the free agents stay HOME he comes running back to our max offer..Yea we come off like a real pu***y there.. Smarten up Hawks management..PULL THAT OFFER NOW

Jesus ..............you offer this guy a max contract and he still hasnt made a decision..This guy doesnt want to be here .Its bad enough we made that offer for a player that is no where worth that kind of money he is mulling that decision..God can our front office be any more dumb..PULL THE OFFER...and say see ya Joe we as fans respect that you guys tried to keep Joe we wont hold it against you ..Clear some room lets make a run for Melo or Paul

exactly and there is no question Durant> Joe that is obvious as Mike Bibby is done ..Durant will be special once he develops his low post game and bulk up a lil

ehhh I dont think KD, JOE, Westrbook would equal championship ..They would still get beat down low in the playoffs but I can see where you say I contradict myself cause I said it would be a wrap but the way those 2 clunked it up in the playoffs who knows..You needs BIGS to win a title

all I got to say is if Joe pairs with KD its a wrap for the NBA .. I wouldnt sign Joe if I wa the Thunder I would look to either get a low post big men that can score but Joe,KD, Westbrook ....owwwwwwwww

Kevin Durant and Joe ??????

Only one who showed up during the series...keep up good work

I wouldnt even put Joe Johnson as one of the top five players in Hawks history ..... Steve Smith did more for this franchise then Joe figure in the draft picks we gave up for Joe as well money we gave him

I will drive Joe Johnson to the airport and get his plane ticket to NY get him out of ATL faster I will take Marvin out in the back yard and probably hold my own Josh Smith will be in a DREAMZ tonight getting lifted THROWING C NOTES Mike Bibby will be shopping for a new head band and a ski mask to rob a pay check for next year Mike Woodson wil be on careerbuider.com