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2010-2011... Beat Orlando and put up a fight with Chicago...

2019-2020 Hawks vs. 2010-2011 Hawks. Rk Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS/G 1 Joe Johnson 29 72 72 35.5 7.1 16.1 .443 1.2 4.2 .297 5.9 12.0 .494 .481 2.7 3.4 .802 0.8 3.2 4.0 4.7 0.7 0.1 2.0 1.8 18.2 2 Al Horford 24 77 77 35.1 6.7 12.0 .557 0.0 0.1 .500 6.6 11.9 .557 .558 1.9 2.4 .798 2.4 7.0 9.3 3.5 0.8 1.0 1.5 2.5 15.3 3 Josh Smith 25 77 77 34.4 6.5 13.5 .477 0.7 2.0 .331 5.8 11.5 .503 .502 3.0 4.1 .725 1.7 6.8 8.5 3.3 1.3 1.6 2.6 2.8 16.5 4 Jamal Crawford 30 76 0 30.2 4.8 11.5 .421 1.6 4.6 .341 3.3 6.9 .474 .489 2.9 3.4 .854 0.3 1.4 1.7 3.2 0.8 0.2 1.9 1.3 14.2 5 Mike Bibby 32 56 56 29.9 3.4 7.9 .435 2.0 4.6 .441 1.4 3.3 .427 .563 0.5 0.8 .630 0.3 2.3 2.6 3.6 0.7 0.1 1.2 2.2 9.4 6 Marvin Williams 24 65 52 28.7 3.8 8.3 .458 0.6 1.7 .336 3.2 6.6 .489 .493 2.3 2.7 .845 1.0 3.8 4.8 1.4 0.5 0.4 1.0 1.6 10.4 7 Kirk Hinrich 30 24 22 28.6 3.3 7.7 .432 1.3 3.2 .421 2.0 4.5 .440 .519 0.6 0.9 .667 0.3 1.9 2.2 3.3 0.8 0.3 1.5 2.8 8.6 8 Maurice Evans 32 47 12 17.8 1.7 4.3 .393 0.6 1.9 .315 1.1 2.4 .455 .463 0.5 0.6 .857 0.5 1.3 1.8 0.6 0.3 0.1 0.3 1.6 4.5 9 Zaza Pachulia 26 79 7 15.7 1.4 2.9 .461 0.0 0.0 1.4 2.9 .461 .461 1.7 2.3 .754 1.5 2.7 4.2 0.7 0.4 0.3 0.9 2.3 4.4 10 Jeff Teague 22 70 7 13.8 1.9 4.3 .438 0.3 0.7 .375 1.6 3.7 .449 .467 1.1 1.4 .794 0.2 1.3 1.5 2.0 0.6 0.4 0.9 1.2 5.2 11 Damien Wilkins 31 52 0 13.0 1.3 2.6 .504 0.0 0.2 .200 1.3 2.4 .528 .511 0.8 1.1 .714 0.4 1.3 1.7 0.8 0.5 0.2 0.4 1.4 3.5 12 Jason Collins 32 49 28 12.1 0.7 1.4 .479 0.0 0.0 1.000 0.7 1.4 .471 .486 0.6 0.8 .659 0.6 1.5 2.1 0.4 0.2 0.2 0.5 2.0 2.0 13 Josh Powell 28 54 0 12.1 1.7 3.9 .452 0.0 0.0 .000 1.7 3.8 .454 .452 0.7 0.8 .800 0.9 1.6 2.5 0.4 0.1 0.1 1.0 1.4 4.1 14 Jordan Crawford 22 16 0 10.0 1.7 4.8 .351 0.6 1.7 .333 1.1 3.1 .360 .409 0.3 0.4 .667 0.6 1.2 1.8 0.9 0.2 0.0 0.9 0.8 4.2 15 Pape Sy 22 3 0 7.0 0.7 2.0 .333 0.0 0.3 .000 0.7 1.7 .400 .333 1.0 1.0 1.000 0.7 0.3 1.0 0.7 0.3 0.0 1.0 0.3 2.3 16 Etan Thomas 32 13 0 6.3 0.8 1.6 .476 0.0 0.0 0.8 1.6 .476 .476 0.9 1.2 .800 0.5 1.3 1.8 0.2 0.1 0.3 0.4 0.8 2.5 17 Hilton Armstrong 26 12 0 6.3 0.5 1.0 .500 0.1 0.1 1.000 0.4 0.9 .455 .542 0.2 0.8 .200 0.3 1.2 1.4 0.3 0.3 0.4 0.3 0.8 1.3 Provided by Basketball-Reference.com: View Original Table Generated 9/20/2019. Trae vs. Bibby Huerter vs. Joe Hunter vs. Mavin Collins vs. Smoove Len vs. Horf Reddish vs. Crawford off the bench. And Etan Thomas doing Spoken Word while Smoove and Josh Powell plays Ping Pong.

When I watch what both can do Physically, I just see more it with Cam. That's all. Not that Cam is Lebron. But I think he's closer than Hunter. I look forward to Hunter proving me wrong.

Maybe that's why I'm not so hot on Hunter. I watched some of those Slow paced games at UVA and said.. this is worst than Princeton. He just seems like a technician but not a guy who can dominate a game. I agree with Supes, he was a reach but I wonder if he wanted us for the Pace or the Money?

I think he's going to struggle a bit early but by midseason he will pick it up. I don't look for great jumps in his defense. That is rare. However, I think that Pierce will develop schemes to try to hid him and Collins.

IF you have a Lambo, there aught to be an Italian guy of German decent that shows up every Saturday to wipe it down and spray it with Alcantara Cleaner.

As I look at the matchups, the most intriguing of them is Collins vs. Millsap. The thing is like the big brother/little brother analogy.. Millsap's defense would stifle Collins. I think he'd reduced Collins from 20/10 to 12/6. I don't know how effective Trae would be either. But the place where this team could be better is bench. Bench with names like Chandler, Parker, Crabbe, and Reddish may go further than Thabo, Pero, Scott and Lil Goldie. But then again, Bud is coaching.

Hazer, you are being a hypocrite. When I came back to Squawk a few weeks ago, there was nothing. I mean, it was like 3-4 days of no new topics. Since the on-set of my series posting, you have starting complaining. I made a series post about John Collins. It is the least viewed and responded to post on the series. Hazer, you didn't even post in that thread. There are copy cat series as well. People would be more apt to talk about Rumeal Robinson than these Hawks because in essence, we don't know anything about these Hawks. So for your person off the street. Do you think a new poster would rather come to a board and read a post from last Friday or come to a board where people are talking about the Hawks everyday? IMO, Hawksquawk should be the epicenter for ALL things Hawks. Not just a news outlet with no news. You can go to the AJC if that's what you want. Back to your tantrum.

2014-2015 Hawks vs. 2019-2020 Hawks Best of 7. Teague vs. Trae Korver vs. Huerter DMC vs. Hunter Millsap vs. Collins Horf vs. Len Bench vs Bench Bud vs. Pierce No. Player Pos Ht Wt Birth Date Exp College 6 Pero Anti C 6-11 260 July 29 1982 mk 1 24 Kent Bazemore SG 6-5 201 July 1 1989 us 2 Old Dominion 7 Elton Brand C 6-8 275 March 11 1979 us 15 Duke 5 DeMarre Carroll SF 6-8 215 July 27 1986 us 5 Vanderbilt Missouri 3 Austin Daye SF 6-11 220 June 5 1988 us 5 Gonzaga 15 Al Horford C 6-10 245 June 3 1986 do 7 Florida 12 John Jenkins SG 6-4 215 March 6 1991 us 2 Vanderbilt 26 Kyle Korver SG 6-7 212 March 17 1981 us 11 Creighton 8 Shelvin Mack PG 6-3 203 April 22 1990 us 3 Butler 4 Paul Millsap PF 6-8 246 February 10 1985 us 8 Louisiana Tech 31 Mike Muscala PF 6-11 240 July 1 1991 us 1 Bucknell 33 Adreian Payne PF 6-10 237 February 19 1991 us R Michigan State 17 Dennis Schrder PG 6-1 172 September 15 1993 de 1 32 Mike Scott PF 6-8 237 July 16 1988 us 2 Virginia 25 Thabo Sefolosha SF 6-7 220 May 2 1984 ch 8 0 Jeff Teague PG 6-2 195 June 10 1988 us 5 Wake Forest No. Player Pos Ht Wt Birth Date Exp College Chandler Parsons F 6-10 230 October 25 1988 us 8 Florida Evan Turner G 6-7 220 October 27 1988 us 9 Ohio State Allen Crabbe G-F 6-6 212 April 9 1992 us 6 Cal DeAndre Bembry F 6-6 210 July 4 1994 us 3 Saint Josephs Damian Jones F-C 7-0 245 June 30 1995 us 3 Vanderbilt John Collins F 6-10 235 September 23 1997 us 2 Wake Forest Trae Young G 6-2 180 September 19 1998 us 1 Oklahoma Kevin Huerter G 6-7 190 August 27 1998 us 1 Maryland Alex Len C 7-1 250 June 16 1993 ua 6 Maryland DeAndre Hunter F 6-7 225 December 2 1997 us R Virginia Cam Reddish F 6-8 218 September 1 1999 us R Duke Bruno Fernando F 6-10 240 August 15 1998 ao R Maryland Jabari Parker F 6-8 245 March 15 1995 us 5 Duke Brandon Goodwin(TW) G 6-2 180 October 2 1995 us 1 Central Florida Florida Gulf Coast Charlie Brown(TW) G 6-7 199 February 2 1998 us R Saint Josephs Ray Spalding F 6-10 215 March 11 1997 us 1 Louisville

I think Korver was the key to making that team work... so when they swept the Leg, all of our hopes went down. No Thabo killed our Depth and losing DMC was just the final straw that broke our back.

Thabo wouldn't have gotten beaten by those NY Policemen & Dellavedova didn't Cobra Kai Sweep the Leg on Kyle Korver in Game 1 of the 2015 ECF. & DMC wouldn't have hurt his knee in the ECF. Could the Hawks been able to Overcome Lebron and the Refs??

The Blatant Disrespect that Mookie gets. Best defensive PGs in NBA History... Mookie is not mentioned.

Who would you rather have on your college team... UM's Glenn Rice or Davidson's Steph Curry?

The answer is that Seattle made it to the championship. Loss to Jordan's Bulls in what.. 4. However, I disagree with the notion that Payton's size made a great difference on defense. Check the stats again... Both men after 11 years in the league: Rk Player From To G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 1 Mookie Blaylock 1990 2000 785 741 35.8 5.5 13.4 .411 1.5 4.5 .337 4.0 8.9 .449 .468 1.5 2.1 .739 1.2 3.1 4.2 6.9 2.4 0.4 2.4 2.0 14.1 2 Gary Payton* 1991 2001 865 859 36.3 7.1 15.0 .470 0.9 2.9 .323 6.1 12.1 .506 .502 2.6 3.6 .721 1.2 2.9 4.2 7.2 2.2 0.2 2.5 2.6 17.7 Provided by Basketball-Reference.com: View Original Table Generated 9/17/2019. Mookie is better in Steals, Blocks. And even Turnovers. And there's only a slight advantage in PPG and APG on the offensive side. All this while Payton played more minutes than Mookie Point is.. Either Payton has been terribly overrated or Mookie terribly underrated.

The one problem... was his size. He was just at pro size for the time. He also had great stats. All that freedom translated to over 50% from the field.