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vor 5 Minuten, AHF sagte:

My understanding is that term is intended to apply to news that the speaker doesn't like to hear about.

There are a lot of sources that say Dennis is and has been on the block.  No one should be surprised by that given that we just drafted someone who plays the same position using a pick we acquired with our highest draft pick since Marvin Williams.  The proper asking price is a more nuanced discussion topic.

Still its fake news. There have been more credible reports out mentioning that there is a market for Dennis. The issue why he's still here is that ressler and the fo value him higher than the market.

I hop onto the bandwagon!! 

As down as I was on Prince at the beginning of last season as high am I now. The work he puts in this offseason is off the charts. He trained with Tatum and Embiid and a bunch of other pros in LA and pushing weights night in night out.

Other than that I'm pretty sure we'll see some stellar performances from Dennis in the beginning because I'm sure as hell he doesn't want to be traded for pennies on the dollar or to a team as back up. 

In hindsight I think we did well in the draft and I have high hopes that a duo of young and hierher actually pans out. 

Dedmon will be solid as always.

My baby boo John Collins gon be a jump-shooting pogo stick this year. I expect his usage to go up tremendously and that he gets comfortable to spot up shoot throughout the season.

About Lin I can't say much other than he seems to be a really nice presence to be around and that he's pretty solid.

The only guy I'm down on is Bembry this year. Totally misjudged him last year by expecting massive jumps of improvement. I think he'll always have more dnp - injury than good games. You simply can't develop by being off the court 80% of the time.

Overall I guess a outcome of 26 wins

Man I freaking hate those guys. The negativity they spread around makes me wanna punch the wall. Those guys are the heftiest  Bud-d!ckriders I can recall and since BADenholzers exit they dismiss every move our fo did as wrong. 

What infuriates me just as much is that they think they're some kind of gods while answering in the comment-section, being as impolite and assholeish as it gets. 

F""king hate those guys

To me its pretty obvious why he should keep shooting them IF hes able to knock down upwards from ~36%. Players have to respect his shot from way beyond the 3pt line. This leads to him stretching the floor nicely for all other players on our team. Just imagine how big of a hole arises around the freethrow-line. It makes us extremely tough to guard. 

Im all for it if he can make the shot every now and then.

vor 3 Stunden, ThomasCredle sagte:

I won't put to much stock in the "system" from the Utah league.  I think they let the players run loose to see what they naturally tended to and let the second year guys try the skills the worked hardest in the offseason line Collins back to the basket and extending his range.  

If the Vegas league does not show more structure I will be a bit more concerned but to decide the coaching hire was a bust after three scrimmages is way to early even for the most negative squawkers.

Give Pierce a full camp with his actual team and then restart this thread in November 

This thread never had the intent to call Pierce a bust. I simply tried to put traes stats into perspective. I just wanted to make sure everyone here gets that it's not all traes fault. It just as much the systems fault.

vor 9 Minuten, Peoriabird sagte:

Don't you see the irony in this...The team sucked at defense last year but in that case it was the players...The rookies and g-leaguers can't shoot in 3 summer league game and it has to be because of coaching..Lol at these sad fans.

Obviously you didn't read my whole point. I'm not solely blaming the coaching staff. Neither do I give up on the coaching staff or think they'll do wrong. I just think it's not the right way to start of with bad habits, not introducing the players to a system early and consequently see trae already losing confidence in his abilities. Its more a point of view and a different psychological approach. 

vor 9 Minuten, hazer sagte:

You won’t find a bigger Snyder fan than me, but I ain’t close to giving up on Pierce so quickly. Everyone is forgetting he said he intended to just let them do their thing in Utah to document teaching points in film. And he has Trae giving good effort on D. Jury is still out...

Man neither do I. The thing that's bothering me is that they aren't exactly boosting traes confidence by not giving him any kind of system. As I said before traes whole game builds on his confidence. Atm he's left alone on an isle with the media and the fans having tremendously high aspirations. I just don't think psychologically it's the right way to introduce your new pg to the city

vor 3 Minuten, KB21 sagte:

LOL!  Another predictable, idiotic statement.

Opinions differ

vor 13 Minuten, terrell sagte:

 

Haha EXACTLY that face

Gotta say I'm as happy as can be with Bud leaving our Hawks. 

Imo his coaching ability was always overrated whereas the actual talent level of the Hawks roster always got underrated, simply because of the Hawks being a small market team.

He cost us way too many games in the last stretch of the season. With a good coach we would've ended the season losing out. You know part of being a good coach is to put things into perspective and plan how to coach your roster to the top longterm.

The only thing I'll miss is his face of pure cluelessnes when something didn't go his way.

Good riddance Bud!

vor 24 Minuten, AtlKauzie sagte:

Out of all the games booker drops 30 this is the one he decides not to. That taurean game winner was dope though.

Because Dorsey played great d against him

I gotta say he didn't intend to bust the Hawks at all. Its the adolescent recklessness he still carries. He was happy and put praise on the Hawks, his life and basketball in general. The thing is he needs an agent that tells him the do's and dont's in publicity. 

For example in another part of the interview he was asked how far he thinks the German national team can go in the next international tournament. He starts answering it by "I don't want to put any pressure on my team that's why I won't set any goals on how far we should go" and ends it by saying "but we should play for a medal. Thats what we should aim for". 

All in all it just paints a picture of a young player who never got teached in professional behaviour. He tries to make good statements but always drops a clanger

He just said on tv in an interview that he actually didn't sit out against Detroit because of his back but because Bud simply didn't want him to play. The lower back issue was just an excuse. 

I know we all knew this on game day but its hilarious and makes me curious if that statement can have some kind of consequences for the hawks.

vor 3 Stunden, Dejay sagte:

I got almost as much joy watching them lose this game than any other one this season. The young guys were down by a bunch but keptPoor Stan was all but ready to put Stanley Johnson in a wrestling hold (for real) after fouling Prince on a 3-point shot with time running out (which should've been called goaltending, which would've made that a 4-point play).

If they would've had another two minutes on the clock, the Hawks would've pulled this one off...

Luckily we haven't had another 2 minutes.

Can someone tell me what happened to Prince. Jeez that guy is unplayable 

vor 3 Minuten, lethalweapon3 sagte:

^

"...but I'm funny, HOW? I mean, funny, like I'm a CLOWN? I AMUSE you?"

~sausag3

 

I mean that's what you get with the hawks. Our franchise has the second worst record and there is no stand out player. We have no Evans or Mirotic who performs out of his mind for multiple games. We only have inconsistent average veterans. 

vor 6 Stunden, lethalweapon3 sagte:

http://www.espn.com/nba/attendance/_/sort/homePct

Apologies if the following is a bit hijacky, but a side Q: How "off" has the underlying arena capacity been for the Hawks (and other teams) in setting the "Home Percentage" stat?

The current per-game average logged (above) by ESPN (13,964), and the associated "percentage" of seats-attended (74.6%), assumes a Philips Arena capacity of about 18,700. (They don't post the assumption, they make you work backwards by doing the division,)

Back in September, C-Viv noted that not only is the current capacity reduced by about 2,500 from last season (due to Phase 1 Reno), but that the arena-listed capacity of 18.238 in 2012-13 was reduced by 2014-15 to 18,047.

http://www.ajc.com/sports/basketball/renovations-will-reduce-philips-arena-seating-capacity/InzbQLNcUAZl5oi6M7JBGP/

The Hawks' printed 2017-18 media guide lists the arena's estimated max-capacity for this season as 15,711, verifying C-Viv's earlier reporting.

https://atlantahawkspr.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/1718_hwk_pr_mediaguide.pdf (ginormous PDF file, but the capacity is mentioned on page 293). Also on that page, a hint that we were once able to seat more than 18,700 is in the reference to the "sports attendance record of 20,425" back during the 2008 Celtics-Hawks playoff series.

If the ESPN-posted per-game average is accurate, then the "Home Percentage" should really be 88.8 percent, roughly the same as what ESPN posts for the Grizzlies (19th-ranked) and Jazz. And if the capacity assumption is from a bygone era, the drop in percentage-attendance may have been getting exaggerated for quite some time.

Now, we all know the actual proportion of booties-in-seats is closer to 8.88 than 88.8, but that's probably the case for lots of teams, and it seems like, as far as ESPN goes, this is more of a denominator problem than a numerator one.

~lw3

(P.S., just found the 2010-11 media guide... http://www.nba.com/hawks/media/1011_HWK_MediaGuide_update.pdf ... where the capacity for that season was 18,729. Rounding up, 13,964/18,729 creates the exact "Home Pct" of 74.6 that ESPN calculates for today's attendance chart. So the capacity and Home Percentage values, at least for the Hawks, have been faulty since at least 2012-13.)

Man it doesn't even bother me to see the percentages. What bothers me is to see the game start and there are factually like 20 people in the stands. 

Is there no way to improve for the city on this bullcr*p? What's different with ATL United that people actually attend their games? 

Are the ticket prices too steep? The wages of Atliens too low? I can't recall a city in Germany which surrounds a collective disinterested in sports. In every city we have just about the same type of people on average. 

Granted I'm not sure how attendance would look if our soccer team played more often on weekdays. 

In the end it just makes me sad. Players won't ever identify as fast and much with the city as elsewhere because there's a great lack of interest. I can't see a superstar caliber player saying "I want to bring a ship to ATL" because people won't care that much anyway. I think that's actually the thing why nobody wants to play for Atlanta. There is nobody youre playing for but the money.

I know this has been an issue since always but throughout those last couple of games I wonder if the Hawks even make sense from a financial standpoint because there are like 200 people attending a game. 

What are the issues other than the history of atlanta sports and the rebuild. Can someone from the area explain? 

Are their any ways to improve attendance or interest? 

As a German it's strong meat to see that. The average attendance in the soccer stadium of my city is about 50.000 people. Its always packed even though the amount of traffic is even higher than in atlanta, the highest in germany. 

They play as awful as the attendance is. I love it 

vor 2 Minuten, Lurker sagte:

Idk why teams don't switch more against the Hawks or really for whole games. The Raptors have and have constantly made this offense look like a bunch of clowns no matter who is the lead guard.

If teams did the Hawks might have 4 wins all year. It's that awful.

I love how they dismantle the easy schemes were running every time we meet them. I'm anxious to see how the third quarter will be. Thats were we'll see whether coach bud adjusts or not.

Edit: gotta say the raptors watched our last game from the stands and are therefor perfectly prepared

vor 2 Stunden, JTB sagte:

Here’s my trade below also this is plus the Brooklyn pick from the Cavs.

will they do it probably not but it’s a fair trade in my opinion. 

Love how it says -18 wins. Would leave us with something like 2 wins at seasons end lol

vor 11 Minuten, Sothron sagte:

That's just a game. All three of those guys have value for trades. The one that has really shaped up his trade value in Bazemore. He's actually living up to his contract this season. Time to turn that into whatever assets we can get...

I feel like many people on this board want to hold on to a player (as in example Baze) as soon as he plays good ball when it really should be the time to sell high on them.

vor 2 Stunden, TheFuzz sagte:

I trust our scouting department but I really want Doncic or Bagley. Could get behind Porter as well. If we fall out of the top 5 it'll be a real test of Schlenk's meddle.

See and that's the thing. I personally like Ayton the most followed by Doncic. 

There wasn't nor will there ever be a decision which we all are going to agree with. I think the best idea is to give whoever he picks enough time to develop before smashing Schlenk 

vor 2 Stunden, Diesel sagte:

The truth is that you have #1 picks that have won rings and MVPs.. but then you also have your Kwame Brown's, Olowakhandi, Anthony Bennetts and Andrew Wiggins.  Everybody says... it won't happen to us.. until it happens to you.   In the long run, team building is better than tanking. 

No you need one exceptional player on the roster to get anywhere. There's really no way around that. 

To be successful you need to draft a superstar or get him through FA. We have no chance through FA. We only have the draft as option and the highest odds of getting that superstar were craving for is at the top. Its that simple. 

I feel like Doncic and Ayton are the two players who have the biggest chances of becoming stars in this draft hence why I want to secure a top 2 pick in this years draft. Everyone else afterwards seems like more of a gamble. Maybe  there will be a player who does just as good as them but in the end as AHF said the odds are the highest. 

I mean just think of how in most years draft position materializes. A guy is set at position number one because most managers see him there. Why do they see him there? Because he seems to be the bpa. 

Its just common sense that players who are categorised as possible superstars are more of a sure thing than a less valued player whose ranked 14th or whatever