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He still has 49 credit hours. At 15 per semester that is into 4 MORE offseasons tacked onto his first three or four (did he take his declaring offseason seriously?). Seriously, can anyone name another player that has spent SEVEN offseasons NOT focused on basketball but rather focused upno school. SEVEN offseason? Any player ever? W

If you were a professional sports GM would you rather your top 2 pick spend his first EIGHT (2 years already plus 6 x 15 hours = 90 hours) off-seasons finishing the degree he chose not to singularly pursue when he entered the draft or would you prefer he devote himself to his chosen profession during those all important initial EIGHT years? AT LEAST if you were a professional sports GM you would prefer that a player that chose to spend the first 8 years of his profession moonlighting as a student wouldn't need to be reminded to "work on your game" not play pick-up ball. Seriously, this ain't professional. It may make MW more interesting to some people, but considering MW can't even hit a 3 entering his 4th year despite arriving with good mechanics...crazy. BTW, I'm considering asking my employer if I can take the next eight summers off to work on my pot throwing skills. Great personal growth for me. Think my employer would see that as "professional"?

Marvin told us he was playing pick up games until a Hawks's assistant told him to "work on his game". Pick up games are absolutely NOT "working on your game" :brick wall: . Anybody who played basketball knows this. Only so much can be gained through pick up games, particularly when Marvin received a starting position and all the on court time he could handle after the Harrington trade. MW didn't need a summer of pick up games. He needed a summer of "working on his game". Even he admitted he needed an assistant coach to get him to do so. Then why is his off-season focus his after basketball career? MW left after one season as a BU. At his current pace of education he will not have a single basketball offseason without spending it at school. He will not spend ONE, SINGLE OFF-SEASON, NOT ONE OFFSEASON without SCHOOL as his primary (full-time) focus. Think about it. With likely 6 semesters of school remaining for him MW will be a professional basketball player alone for the first time in the year 2014! This isn't Horford who has already proven himself both on the college and professional level, who practiced with TEAM USA, and who has maybe 2 years left to get his degree. This is Marvin f***ing Williams who will be into likely his 3rd contract before he's done with school. His PER is meager and his range hasn't improved. And he's a good BASKETBALL professional? Hell no! He's a nice guy, but no professional. He came into the biggest interview OF ANYBODY'S LIFE OUT OF SHAPE despite only having 6 weeks since his last collegiate game. That's "professional". Man pu-leaze. There isn't a GM in the world that would rather MW play pick up games than "work on his game". There isn't a GM in the world that would rather MW finish a degree that will consume possibly his first EIGHT off-seasons rather than commit to his PROFESSION! Not one. W

It was a bad pick to begin with. Had the pick garnered a guy of Deng or Iggy's value the Olympikos offer wouldn't have been made much less phased us. We'd either have offered something VERY close or traded to someone willing to offer something VERY close. No NBA team was coming very close to $11 mil per for Childress. Chillz was a perfect storm player for overseas interest. A guy who they could now afford the $11 mil per to overpay for and who doesn't have the value in this league for any team here to match such overpayment.

The QO threat isn't leverage for a team with our recent track record, our ownership group, our coach (that JS isn't fond of at least), that just lost Childress. If JS takes the QO his trade value diminishes significantly. While any team that trades for him keeps his bird rights that isn't the end all for a then 23 year old who likely would want his next contract to end around 27-28 anyhow. W

Four points and an assist VERY early for him. The guy can tear drop with the best of them. W

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives..._for_childress/ "never got off the ground" of course, but I would have liked that deal regardless. I see us dealing Bibby soon. While Barbosa is not a 1, he could spell there for a few and would give JJ a great BU scorer or allow us to go small with Law, Barbosa, and JJ at the 1, 2, 3. Shame that a deal like that didn't get done. Unlike with JS I felt a deal was the best thing to do for all. Can't compete with twice as much as anyone in the U.S. would pay for him however. W

That is the MFing problem with MW. Pick up game practicing with Sean baby fat May is not going to improve your skill set, extend your range, or anything. MW CHOSE to leave basketball early. His CHOICE dictated that he devote himself to remediate basketball work to make up for his failure to develop prior to his jump to the NBA. Offseason after offseason we learn that, as wonderful a person as he may be to have watch your pooch over the weekend, MW is a lousy professional! out of shape interviews to core strengthening to pick-up game offseasons should do nothing but convince people of MW meager desires to perform much less be good at his job. W

This is how I see it. I don't think the Hawks did themselves any favors in negotiations (and it does go against their stated objective of "resigning the two Joshes" given that it puts doing so at below their market value in JC case above DOING so). However, it likely would have worked out well if the Greek team hadn't offer TWICE what any NBA team would ever offer Childress. You simply can't compete with that. Not with a guaranteed starting gig, international life (Childress would seem the type to enjoy that), and many FEWER games played. Simply too good of a deal IMO and one no one can claim to have seen coming. W

That's just a blatant lie. Diesel, clean up your hate act. You're making shit up as usual. W

Here is my one issue. We were in such a hurry to resign our highly questionable coach when many, better coaches were available, but we haven't been in a hurry to resign the biggest two FAs for the Hawks in 10 years when there aren't viable replacements available. I don't think we could do anything about Childress. Nobody could see a deal more than twice the value of ours coming from overseas, but once it did one has to accept the fact that resigning JS at even a slightly higher price became more paramount. Can't take your time on a half-ass coach but can on our own top notch FA. This is simply strange. Walter

Amidst all the chaos that is this offseason, we can't even get a home-towner big needing a lift. Grrrrr. http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives..._joins_detroit/ W