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I'm going all Hawks

Mookie Blaylock

Pistol Pete 

Nique

Bob Pettit

Dikembe

All time team

Oscar Robertson (the ultimate floor general and tough SOB)

George  Gervin (Reggie Miller was given strong consideration)

Scottie Pippen (probably  should have Lebron but my GM has a strict no douchebag policy)

Bob Pettit (only guy to best Bill Russell's Celtics)

Bill Russell (The rich man's Al Horford)

THJ enough said. I gave  strong consideration to Muscala, but the production of Tim won me over. 

You guys are hilarious. If Al Horford goes to a team that doesn't  ask him to do so much defensively, his rebounds will go right back up to around  10 a game. This guy was regularly in the top 10 in rebounding his entire career before coach  Bud got here and he's  still the one guy that normally boxes out. Most will claim it was injury, but it's just a what the coach values thing. Just because he's not securing the rebound doesn't  mean  he's not impacting our rebounding numbers. 

Al Horford  is like an amoeba  which makes him special. Andre Drummond rebounds and block shots  like a mad  man but he's limited and that's all he can do. He's  a libility in the pick and pop defense and on the perimeter in general which is why Al regularly eats his lunch. Al can change his approach from quarter to quarter  and play to play, so a smart coach  would make it so you never know what's coming. Imo coach Bud doesn't  leverage his versatility enough. Maybe it's because of the defensive liabilities we have on the perimeter. Al is the main reason we've  been a top defensive team the last two years, but Lebrons versatility  and athletcism is greater, so it's harder for him to recover. He can't cover for Teague and Korver versus the Cavs.

11 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

@NBASupes what move did you want Bud to make last offseason besides the choice between DMC or Millsap that would have helped us today.

I would have liked to see them pick Bobby Portis who played well with very inconsistent minutes with the Bulls. He was widely thought of as a potential rookie of the year candidate and most ready to play  before the draft. I would have also like to see us trade for Jeff Green when he was given away for peanuts to the Clippers. I would much rather trade a 1st round pick for him. Again we were very close in 3 of 4 games with 4 quarter  leads in all 3. Having a competent starter at 3 that can defend a big body in Lebron would have been helpful, and likely cut down on the barrage of threes. Thabo could have stayed on the bench and Korver could have joined him making our starting unit much better defensively, and making our bench much better with Schröder,Korver, Thabo, Portis, and Humphries. Everyone is searching for superman, but some basic competent GM moves could have made this team much deeper and more competitive. 

22 minutes ago, ATLHawks3 said:

Joe wasn't clutch last night though.

He may not have been clutch last night I didn't watch, but he has played well in these playoffs and hit big shots. Noone  is clutch every night. 

For all yall  laughing at my post  in this thread. Timothy Mozgov is better than any big on our bench including Humphries. He would be the first big off our bench and he doesn't even play  for the Cavs. Iman Shumpert  is a much better player than  THJ whom we traded the 15th pick in the draft for. He would be our first guard  off the bench. Bottom line is championship teams  bench looks very different ours. We need to have very little drop off when the bench comes in because we don't have Superstar. If someone can do the Superstar dance and make one fall from the heavens then this bench is fine. If not we need to seek  veteran presence  with playoff experience or 1-3 scoring option experience.

We probably  would have won atleast two games against the Cavs if Joe had just signed with us this year. We likely win game 1 and 4 with Joe closing out the game. Joe  is still clutch and can get his own shot and that's all we needed. He's also guarded Lebron pretty well in the past. He's another big body  that should be able to guard  without the double. 

I'm  a Miami Heat. I thought I would  be a Spur. Apparently I'm a workaholic; I wonder if my wife knows. 

14 minutes ago, Cwell said:

You're reaching now. None of those guys are legit starters. Name them? Lol

Shumpert  would start for us and started in new York before  all his injury issues. 

Mozgov  could be a starting center in fact he started for the Cavs last year. 

MO Williams  and Richard Jefferson are 5 year plus starters that have made Allstar games. They are older but still have game.

Channing Fry started for years in Phoenix.

The Hawks bench is comprised mostly of 2nd rounders and guards  that shoot  barely over 30% from the field and 3.

Chris Humphries and Sefelosha  are the two guys with starting  experience.

Cavs  basically have 8 starters coming off the bench. They're only bench players because they are on the Cavs.

12 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said:

Glad we finally started Sefolosha, and over Korver at that which I never thought Bud would do. But pulling Al at the 8 minute mark after he was FINALLY getting his post ups to drop while leaving miss-it-all Paul in the game is a huge error. Bud you are on the right path in your shaking up the lineup but you need to change your rotation pattern too sir. Its like Bud is opposed to a guy getting his own offense going early. Al scored so easy buckets quick and he pulls him out, wtf

I believe he pulled him because he got two quick fouls. 

Millsap  is killing us right now. His lazy  d has lead to all the Cavs points so far. Offensive rebound on a free  throw ugh!

19 hours ago, AHF said:

Baze and Dennis both stepped up and were our best offensive contributors.  When no one else did much of anything, they both tried to do too much down the stretch.  You know hero ball with either of them is not where you want to be but the other options weren't so exciting:

I think this  is what Cleveland wants. We've now played Cleveland 5 times and Teague, Baze and Schröder have been wide open all games. Good for them for hitting their shots, but Imo we are playing right into Cleveland's hands by not enforcing our  will and tempo. This  is my biggest problem with a 100% read and react  offense. A good defensive team  can force the read to the players they want. Under Larry  Drew it ended up in Josh Smith's hands all the time on the perimeter.

Cleveland is hedging their bets that that Trio  won't best them, and so far they been right. We need  30 assist we need PG's breaking  down  D. I was happy when Dennis started doing that.

9 hours ago, BigDog90 said:

You don't think Hardaway can be that guy?

 

I think you have to be encouraged by what you saw  tonight. The Hawks didn't play near their best and had a chance to win. End of game execution continues to kill this team.

The Cavs game plan is to force our bigs from their comfort plays and keep Korver from getting off. There's reason Bazemore and Schröder are open. Same gameplan as the Celtics, but with better post defenders. Cavs are dictating our  offense not  the other way around. Schröder driving  and penetrating was the fly in their ointment. If the Cavs are going to pack the paint and take away the pick plays  our PG'S  have to make them pay the whole game. Not just when they get a wild hair. 

Hopefully the Cavs won't be so hot from three in game two. They hit alot of very tough threes. JR Smith seems  to play his best against Kyle Korver, and I thought Kyle played very good D on him. 

Number one off season move needs to be finding a SG that can hit a 3 that you  can't switch  bigs on.  They are switching Bigs on Kyle because of his inability to dribble. We should be able to make them pay  for that and we can't. This is the key to the D they're playing.  

56 minutes ago, Trout7 said:

You are probably right, but it just seems like we can't even make open shots when we play the Cavs.  We definitely get a case of the nerves against them.

His booty is definitely  puckering but he is playing  great D and effecting the game in other ways. His offensive IQ looks really low right now. Shooting a jumper over a PG come on Al.

2 minutes ago, Trout7 said:

Is there some reason  a man 6' 10" can't post up.  He has decent looks he just can't make shots.

Lol  so your expecting him to turn into Kareem now. He wasn't Kareem when we were winning all year. Coach Bud needs to find away to play  to their strengths. If he and the PG's can't do that we lose. I guess Korver should start  taking people off the dribble since  he's 6'7. I promise you Horford would look a alot  better if he was getting the wide  open shots Lebrons creating for Kevin Love. 

23 minutes ago, Trout7 said:

Always brick city as usual against the Cavs.  Horford playing like a rookie.

I'll say this in Horford's defense this offense has done a complete 180 on him. His shots  were all pick and roll and pick and pop  in the regular season. Now in the infinite wisdom of coach  Bud or the inability  of our PG's to to get him the same shots he got in the regular season. He's getting the majority of his shots from post ups which is not his strength. I would wager less than 20% of his shots were post up in the regular season, but in the playoffs it seems to be almost  60% of his shots. I can't figure why that is. Same thing is impacting Millsap  too.

Hawks in 6.

13 hours ago, capstone21 said:

Korver is very important with his spacing and he shot 45% from three in the Boston series (that is with a 0-7 from 3 in Game 1).   No way do we not start him

I understand where the OP's heart is, but, this exactly right. Cleveland is too good of a defensive team for  Thabo to be killing the spacing. Lebron will be free to roam  on D and that's not a good thing for us. It would mean lots of blocks, steals and rebounds. 

36 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

I went to more games this season because I got cheaper tickets.  Last season during the streak and beyond tickets prices kept going up because the fringe fans wanted in.

 

 

Don't worry @JayBirdHawk the fringe will be back to watch Bron Bron next round in full out  Cavs attire like they're  from the mistake by the lake. Then they'll drive home to Decatur. The worse part is the nose bleed seats will be about 100 bucks. 

48 minutes ago, NineOhTheRino said:

The Hawks have never been able to keep LeBron under control and  I don't see it happening any time soon. 

So why try? The best plan for Lebron is to let  him do his thing. Let Baze guard him 1 on 1 and keep the others from getting off. Lebron is alot  more effective when he's getting everyone involved. As high as his basketball IQ is, his one weakness is he can be duped into shooting  jump shots. We can't allow  wide  open 3's like we've done in this series. 

I'm staying out of chat tonight. We lost  both games when I was in the chat. Just doing my part no need to pat  me on the back. 

6 hours ago, macdaddy said:

I honestly didn't have a great feeling about the when Sap went off.   It just caused the rest of our guys to stand around and not play with any rhythm.     Teague should take over tonight.

When we won over 60% of our baskets were  assisted. Last two games way under 50%. Don't forget who you are Hawks, even on the last play  of the game.