Jody23

While I don't think he's a # 1 option, I do think he has the ability to do more offensively. I agree with nbasuperstar40 in that I also believe (as do many nba folks) that Al is a power forward. If you put him in a position where both his quickness and his size become positives in his favor, he will produce more offensively. I don't have any numbers off the top of my head, but if you look at the games where Al has played against teams (New York, Toronto, Chicago) who play guys who are really power forwards at the center spot, Al goes from good to dominate. If he ever is allowed to play the four full time, I think those type of performances become a regular staple. Al is very talented and versatile.

I would agree except for the fact that by this point I think we're all aware that Marvin doesn't have the ability to be more than he is and with Josh it's entirely up to him as to his how good or bad he plays.

With that being said if I saw Marvin pouting, not getting back on defense, and jogging up and down the court when things didn't go his way I'd gladly create a banner to call him out despite his lack of NBA All-Star ability but say what you want about Marvin you'll never see him do the things that Hubie (and most of of us) were calling Josh out for last night.

I would agree that it's up to Josh as to how hard he plays, but he definitely has his limits as a player. I think Orlando is a tough matchup for him and he allowed it to fustrate him in addition to taking some tough charges and elbows to the face. I'm not excusing the poor play, but 98% of the time, the young man busts his hump for the team and produces more not sheerly on ability, but because he works hard. I'm not accusing you of this Dolfan, but when Josh has a bad game, too many folks quickly want to forget how much he's done for the team and try to tear him down.

At the same time, the same people readily accept the lack of production from Marvin despite their insistence that he has this tremendous ability. They insist it's because he's not being included or he's being used improperly. I would just like to see things looked at more objectively.

With that said, GO HAWKS today and props on the new banner sir.

LOL thanks ... I probably shouldn't have created a banner that is focused completely on Josh but I just couldn't help it after seeing him jog up and down the court last night and maybe he'll see this and be embarrassed ... but I doubt it.

Maybe this could be done for Marvin too. Seeing as how he has totally underacheived since he's been in the league and Smoove has over achieved, maybe it will move him to want to be a factor on the floor.