kurupt

Respect is a two-way street - and it is usually earned. If I put in the work (sometimes 15-20 minutes of research) to make a detailed post about something and someone either

1. ignores and/or
2. misinterprets and/or
3. moves the goalposts

regarding these posts every single time on purpose and without putting any research/effort into his own argument, that is disrespectful towards me and I will call that behaviour out.

I would post a lot more here, heck, I had a very detailed player-by-player review of the season and the outlook for the next one already written, but I decided against it because every thread gets derailed by Diesel anyway and he doesn't give a flying f*** about. Half of the threads on page 1 are by him, basically all with meaningless one-liner-like premises and without any substantial discussion at all.

I have zero problem with different opinions as long as they are reasonable and at least somewhat well argued. Spouting the same thing over and over and over again (Schröder doesn't pass the ball and plays only ISO, Howards doesn't get enough post touches, for example), even when several posters rebutt it with simple facts, is really bad for any argument.

I don't even have a problem with Hotlantas negativity - at least it is not repeated 10x in every single thread. But having people like "campster" posting "He is a loser." about any player is completely unnecessary and f***ing stupid. Period.

You are MISGUIDED. I don't post my sources again and again and again, because you just ignore everything anyway.

http://stats.nba.com/players/roll-man/

http://stats.nba.com/players/post-up/

http://stats.nba.com/players/post-touch/

http://stats.nba.com/players/paint-touch/

And to your point: Exactly MY POINT, you UNDERINFORMED FELLOW SQUAWKER. Howard was super efficient as the roll-man...but HE DID NOT PLAY P&R often. In fact, he was amongst the players with the lowest frequency of this play, because he still wants to be a Low-Post scorer (which he is bad at) rather than play to his strength.

That's what I have pointed out to you about 5 times now. Learn the f***ing difference between number/frequency of plays and efficiency.

3 hours ago, Diesel said:

While you are still being insulting... Do you know the difference between a PNR play and a Post up Play??  It seems like you obviously Don't.  Because while we were talking about PNRs... you polluted the board with some mess about Howard and Post up plays...  So let me help you:

 

https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2017/1/11/14235784/breaking-down-the-paul-millsap-dwight-howard-pick-and-roll

 

Check out the PNR here.  It's Millsap to Dwight.  Dwight sets the pick.. then he rolls to the basket.  We call that a 5-4 PNR.  IF the pick is set well, Sap could go on to the basket himself.   However, if Dwight's man stay with Sap, then Dwight rolls to the basket and gets an open alley opp.   Check it out...so that you won't be ignorant about this matter. 

Here's another one with Baze...

This is Calderon on the PNR finding Howard on the drive.  Very Stockton like. 

Speaking of Calderon... here's how he was received:

It's a shame that we let him slip away this off-season.  I think he made a much better BU PG than Delaney. 

Are you GRAVELY MISTAKEN? I am seriously asking. Because it seems like you either cannot read of have a serious mental issue that prevents you from grasping the most simple sentences.

This is what I wrote. I EVEN f***ing INCREASED THE FONT SIZE FOR YOUR DUMB ASS! And I am gonna do it again;

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Now let’s look at him as a Pick&Roll player as the rolling man. Among 107 players that have more than 1 possession of this kind [per game] and have played more than 20 games, Howard has the 9^th lowest frequency as the roll man with 10.1%. Paul Millsap, for example, is at 23.4% (33^rd). Dwight Howard scores 1.18 PPP on these plays, which is 15^th among qualified players (Millsap has a paltry 0.86 PPP). Howards FG% of 66% is the 7^th best and his TO% 40% lower than on post-ups.

 

There is no way the Hawks should involve Howard in more post-plays. He already is used a ton compared to all other players and he is not very efficient at it.  He should be involved more often as the roll-man in P&R plays. But as Budenholzer already publicly said: he has to come out and set screens in the first place (and decent ones) to do that. His scoring would skyrocket. But Dwight doesn’t want that.

Dwight Howard refused to play P&R more frequently despite it working well. It got so bad that Budenholzer in the playoffs said that he won't get more touches/playing time unless he starts setting more screens.

And please, stop telling me about Schröders experience in Germany. Just stop making up your BOVINE FERTILIZING PRODUCT.

vor 4 Minuten, Diesel sagte:

I don't think anybody said that Dennis doesn't play PNR.

However, most of you seem to insinuate that Howard does not?  I found it intriguing and everybody watched it.. .Howard played PNR with Millsap.  He played PNR with Baze.  Hell, he even played PNR with Calderon.   BUT  Dennis wouldn't feed him on the PNR.

 

f***ing LIAR.

Posted for the 3rd time now, but you will still ignore it.

Zitat

Now, to the matter at hand. Dwight Howard is 11^th in post touches in terms of frequency (excluding Edy Tavares with 1 game and Papagiannis with not enough minutes/plays). He is 33^rd in points per possession on post touches. There are only about 40 players that average 2 post touches per game and he is the 7th worst in PPP. This is due to his (at best) average 47% FG%, his high turnover rate and bad free throw shooting. You can also look at Post Touches (i.e. a pass and reception within the paint). Amongst players with at least 20 mpg, Howard leads the league here with 7.0 per game. Amongst the same group, Howard is also 1^st in the league with 8.0 Paint Touches (getting the ball within 8 5ft of the basket).

In my opinion this clearly shows that he arguably is overused on post-ups and not the other way around. He is essentially one of if not THE player in the league, that is most used as a traditional big man.

Now let’s look at him as a Pick&Roll player as the rolling man. Among 107 players that have more than 1 possession of this kind [per game] and have played more than 20 games, Howard has the 9^th lowest frequency as the roll man with 10.1%. Paul Millsap, for example, is at 23.4% (33^rd). Dwight Howard scores 1.18 PPP on these plays, which is 15^th among qualified players (Millsap has a paltry 0.86 PPP). Howards FG% of 66% is the 7^th best and his TO% 40% lower than on post-ups.

 

There is no way the Hawks should involve Howard in more post-plays. He already is used a ton compared to all other players and he is not very efficient at it.  He should be involved more often as the roll-man in P&R plays. But as Budenholzer already publicly said: he has to come out and set screens in the first place (and decent ones) to do that. His scoring would skyrocket. But Dwight doesn’t want that.

I am going to try, although it will be futile.

1. Schröder didn't have "years of experience playing with Pros in Germany". He played in a youth team of the local pro-team until he was 17/18 years old. I, a 5-9 tall bum, f***ing played with/against players from those teams. He started playing in the 3rd Division farm team as a 17/18 year old, a league where the 2 allowed American Pros per team weren't even bottom-shelf Div-1A players but worse. The rest of the teams are amateurs. He wasn't considered an elite talent in the youth National Teams. He barely played minutes in the 1st-Division during the 2011/2012 season despite domintating the 3rd division (which, again, is like putting up good numbers in Division-2 college ball).

Everything he got, he earned during the 2012/2013 season when he got 20 minutes per game. That led, out of nowhere, to the invitation to the Nike Hoop Summit where he surprised people. He was never considered a great talent or had been "dominating for years" as Diesel said.

2. No one here argues that he was better than average last year as a starter. But this was his first season as a starter and it is simply unreasonable to expect a lot more from a 17th pick. He is still young and, most importantly, he has improved significantly every single year since he was 17 years old.

You also have to consider that this is a golden age of Point Guards right now. Being average (putting him somewhere bewtween 12th and 18th) as a PG right now means much more than being an above average Shooting Guard or Center. Westbrook, Harden, Curry, Paul, Thomas, Wall, Lowry, Conley, Lillard, Walker, Irving - that's 11 PGs in their prime that are easily All-Star worthy.

The starting PGs that are close (at most 2 years older) to him in terms of age are Kyrie Irving, Tyler Johnson, Elfrid Payton, D'angelo Russel, Yogi Ferrell and TJ McConnel. Except Irving, no GM would trade Schröder straight up for any of these guys (maybe Russel talent-wise, but that guy has serious character issues).

Just to clarify this point a bit more: as a 23-year old in his 4th season in the league John f***ing Wall averaged 19.3 points with 8.8 assists on 43% shooting - and he had been the starter and focal point of that team for 3 years already. Adjusted for playing time, Schröder averaged 20.6 points with 7.3 assists on 45% shooting. For their first playoffs as a starter, Schröder performs flat-out crushes Walls (17 ppg, 7.7 apg on 37% shooting).

[Of course John Wall is a far better player and most likely will be overall. He was the consensus #1 pick in his draft and is a freak athlete. But this shows how unreasonable the doomsayers are about Schröders first year as a starter. ]

3. Schröder has already outpferformed his draft position at this point. The average career stats for the 17th pick are 397 games played (285, but should easily get well above that) with career averages of 20 mpg, 8 ppg, 4 rpg and 2 apg. Essentially a bench player (7-9th rotation slot). The average PER for the 17th pick is 12.4, apart from his paltry first year (5.8) Schröder was well above 15 in all season.

The best picks in the last 10 years for the 13-20th draft slots were (so 80 players total):

Thabo Sefolosha, Ronnie Brewer, Kahwi Leonard, Nikola Vucevic, Danny Granger, Ty Lawson, Jeff Teague and Donatas Motiejunas.

We can argue about details, but Schröder comfortably projects to be in the Top-5 of that list when his career is over (Leonard and Granger being clearly better (tho Granger only played 6 real season), Vucevic and Teague being close).

Sources:

http://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm

https://www.thescore.com/news/773112

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2498100-the-best-pick-at-every-nba-draft-position-over-the-last-decade

Tl;dr: For the umpteenth time: if you blame the 17th picked, 23-year old, first year starter for the Hawks not winning a Championship or going further in the play-offs or whatever, you're just being unreasonable.

vor 2 Stunden, Diesel sagte:

I believe Bud is already a dead duck coach.  Maybe Bud is bidding his time until he can get back to San Antonio.  However, with the moves that we have made, I believe that Bud didn't have much influence over what we have done.  Moreover, I think Bud would be a good coach to have after a full tank and we restock with a team of babies (Hawks University) but I don't think Bud is a Schlenk guy.   Don't be surprised if you see Mike Brown walking through that door. 

Coach and President of Basketball Operations. Had no influence on what was done. Sure.

vor 7 Stunden, Diesel sagte:

Educate us Kurupt... Tell us how terrible the German Leagues are and thus provide an excuse for Dennis Now... I mean.. that is what you're saying right??  You're saying that the German League are inferior and that having only 3 Germans to ever play in the NBA is proof of that ....That's what you're saying right??

 

You are an idiot who is not interested in anything besides your own fantasies anyway. So why should anyone still make an effort to educate your bum ass?

You have no idea about Dennis career in Germany, Diesel. Just stop pulling stuff out of your ass...

vor 3 Stunden, thecampster sagte:

So on this list I see 2 NBA champs. 1 of them had Lebron, the other had Thompson, Green and most recently Durant.  Additionally, in this list Dennis most favorably relates to whom???  Who has Dennis' skillset?

 

Again, I'm just being realistic here.  Last season Dennis was 18/6/3 (rounded). To expect him at 24 to take a huge leap forward while not sacrificing efficiency is crazy.

Let's use Conley as your example.

Conley at 23.  13.7/6.5/3.  His next 5 seasons.

12.7/6.5/2.5

14.6/6.1/2.1

17.2/6.0/2.9

15.8/5.4/3.0

15.3/6.1/2.9

20.5/6.3/3.5

Disturbingly consistent and took his "next step" scoring at 29 not 23.

Steph Curry 23 = 18.6/5/8/3.9

24 14.7/5.3/3.4

He's 25-27 and averaged around 23.5 ppg but takes his big leap at 28 to 30.1 ppg then down to 25.3.  @23.8 and 25.3 he wins the NBA championship but at 30.1 the team is flawed and loses.

Kyrie did nothing without Lebron.

Boston felt so flawed they added Horford and flamed out when their still existent flaws showed.

What I think disturbs me most about your list is you're comparing 23 year old, very immature Dennis to pretty much every great passer in the NBA.  The kid is 23....throwing the franchise on his back at this age is a bit premature. At no point have I said "Dennis is terrible, throw the bum out". What I have said is he is still maturing and I refuse to judge him as a complete package until he is at least 25.

Your point is what? Dennis cannot be compared to these players because what? Because he was better at 23 years old than most of them?! Like, you argued against your own point, buddy.

The retardation in this thread is unreal. Unbearable to read posts here.

Schröder was the best Hawks player in the playoffs, scoring 24.7 ppg with 7.7 assists while shooting 45.5% overall and 42.5% from 3 - and doing it against a red hot John Wall. Do you really think that the Wizards did not try to stop him? Diesel and his boys talking about Hardayway Jr. as a real option on offense when he shot 33% (YES THRIRTY-THREE) overall and 26% from 3 in the playoffs. The Hawks were a 2-man show offensively in the playoffs.

Yet somehow some people think that he will play WORSE in the regular season than last year...after a full additional summer working on his game again.

Irving is as dumb as a brick and it is showing again. Hands off this dude, let the Knicks trade for him.

Hewon 21, 24 and 33 games before James arrived and he thinks he is going to make a team better. Bitch please...

vor 3 Stunden, Diesel sagte:

I can't believe that you tried to convince Lurker with Stats!!?!

You didn't even say that for the season:

5th in Rebounding, 4th in FG%, etc..

or that he was 39th amoung centers for USG%.  That's more telling that anything else.   We don't involve him offensively then complain about impact.

Only gave him the most post touches + post ups in the whole league. It is his own fault that he outright refused to do anything else.

Belinelli is a pretty good contract btw.

2 years at 6.6 million per is great value for a player that is better than THJr and Bazemore right now and provides what the Hawks need the most: shooting.

Zitat

Your point of Dennis being a ball hog and terrible hinges primarily on the fact that he doesn't "feed the post". You convieniently ignore all the stats me (and others before me) showing that Dwight Howard got the most post touches of all f***ing players in the whole f***ing league and he is pretty shit converting on these opportunities. You also ignore the fact that he could have be an elite roll-man, but didn't want to do it. And somehow Schröder is to blame for everything although he is already an average passing PG on a shitty shooting team in his first year.

Zitat

Let’s look at ball hog Schröder. Among 113 Guards (some players like Antetokounmpo are listed as Guards also) with at least 20 games played and 20 mpg, Schröder is 16^th with 57 passes per game. He is 14^th in assists (tied with known ball hog Mike Conley), 8^th in Secondary Assists (the “hockey assist”), 13^th in potential assists and 25^th in Asts/TO ratio. Considering the Hawks had the 8^th worst 3-point shooting percentage (with the 16^th most shots) and were only average on converting 2-point FGs, these numbers seem pretty okay.

So if your pont is that a 17th pick in his first year as a starter is only an average passer, you are correct. If you think THAT is the problem, you are being an idiot (once more).

[Also the San Antonio system doesn't produve high assist numbers for PGs anyway - especially if the team can't shoot the 3]

I just need to quote my old posts. This is amazing. I was also spot-on on Dwight 8 weeks ago:

Zitat

First of all, I think that Howard did well this season. He did what could be expected of him and until a few days ago, I would have complimented his overall attitude, because he did not (publicly) complain – but I have to scrap that part. If he is not satisfied with what he got this season and isn't looking to improve filling out this role, his worth is severely diminished.

Now, to the matter at hand. Dwight Howard is 11^th in post touches in terms of frequency (excluding Edy Tavares with 1 game and Papagiannis with not enough minutes/plays). He is 33^rd in points per possession on post touches. There are only about 40 players that average 2 post touches per game and he is the 7th worst in PPP. This is due to his (at best) average 47% FG%, his high turnover rate and bad free throw shooting. You can also look at Post Touches (i.e. a pass and reception within the paint). Amongst players with at least 20 mpg, Howard leads the league here with 7.0 per game. Amongst the same group, Howard is also 1^st in the league with 8.0 Paint Touches (getting the ball within 8 5ft of the basket).

In my opinion this clearly shows that he arguably is overused on post-ups and not the other way around. He is essentially one of if not THE player in the league, that is most used as a traditional big man.

Now let’s look at him as a Pick&Roll player as the rolling man. Among 107 players that have more than 1 possession of this kind and have played more than 20 games, Howard has the 9^th lowest frequency as the roll man with 10.1%. Paul Millsap, for example, is at 23.4% (33^rd). Dwight Howard scores 1.18 PPP on these plays, which is 15^th among qualified players (Millsap has a paltry 0.86 PPP). Howards FG% of 66% is the 7^th best and his TO% 40% lower than on post-ups.

There is no way the Hawks should involve Howard in more post-plays. He already is used a ton compared to all other players and he is not very efficient at it.  He should be involved more often as the roll-man in P&R plays. But as Budenholzer already publicly said: he has to come out and set screens in the first place (and decent ones) to do that. His scoring would skyrocket. But Dwight doesn’t want that.

Has Schröder stolen your GF or what is wrong with you?!

Best player o nthe Hawks. My goodness. You are like a child.

vor 18 Stunden, Diesel sagte:

That's speculation... to make us feel better.    The truth is that this GM goofed.. his first time out.   Moreover, if you wanted to trade Dwight, get good value for him... don't take on a bad contract.   You can say that Dwight was a lockerroom cancer... if that's what you want to go with...  but that doesn't mean that you trade him for a hamstring. 

The truth is that Dwight Howard is aboiut as as smart and knowledgeable about basketball as you are.

He is elite at rolling to the basket in P&R plays - and refuses to play them. He sucks ass at scoring in the post and tries it at the highest rate in the whole league - and wants more of it. And after 10+ years of not improving a lick as a basketball palyer, he is talkingabout developing a 3-point shot. He is absolutely clueless and delusional i nregards of what he can and can't do. That's why he is gone.

Had he embraced his role as a defensive anchor/reboudner/P&R-screen setter the Hawks would have been a lot better and he would still be here.

Just was the best player in the playoffs in his first year as a starter and against one of the best PGs in the whole league in a golden era of PGs. Let's bash him some more, morons.

This forum is a joke with people like Diesel creating 3 threas within half an hour and all are stupid as f***. Unbearable.

Dennis is not getting traded, Diesel.

I bet 50 € on that to anyone who wants in.

vor 1 Stunde, Diesel sagte:

Season    Age  Tm  Lg Pos   G GS   MP   FG  FGA  FG%  3P 3PA  3P%  2P  2PA  2P%  FT FTA  FT% ORB DRB TRB  AST STL BLK TOV  PF   PTS ORtg DRtg
2015-16    22 ATL NBA  PG  80  6 1621 10.0 23.8 .421 2.3 7.3 .322 7.7 16.5 .465 4.4 5.5 .791 0.8 5.5 6.2 10.6 2.1 0.3 5.6 4.2  26.8   97  103
2016-17    23 ATL NBA  PG  79 78 2485 10.9 24.1 .451 2.0 5.8 .340 8.9 18.3 .486 4.3 5.1 .855 0.8 4.1 4.9  9.9 1.5 0.3 5.1 3.0  28.1  103  109
Career                NBA 285 94 6263  9.8 22.7 .433 1.9 5.8 .331 7.9 16.9 .468 4.3 5.3 .818 0.8 4.6 5.4 10.0 1.7 0.2 5.2 3.7  25.8  100  107

 

I get that you're a nuthugger for Dennis.. however, before you attack me personal and call me a liar, check your facts.  Per36, Dennis is the same guy as last year.  In fact, he gives less assists and less rebounds. 

1. No one disputed the fact that Schröders PER36 numbers are similar to last season, so I have no idea what your point is? Except moving the goalposts every time someone calls your made up shit out.

What you convieniently overlook is that these numbers were great for a 22-year old last year and put him in the 6th-man of the year conversation. The fact that he wa able to translate this numbers with higher playtime/responsibility, with more focus on him in terms of opponents gameplanning, against tougher opposition and with higher efficiency (less TOs, better shooting) is a positive. Yet somehow you spin it to be negative.

2. The PER numbers you posted were wrong. Others already called you out on that. So where did you get them from? I am curious.

3. Your point of Dennis being a ball hog and terrible hinges primarily on the fact that he doesn't "feed the post". You convieniently ignore all the stats me (and others before me) showing that he is getting the most post touches of all f***ing players in the whole f***ing league and he is pretty shit converting on these opportunities. You also ignore the fact that he could be an elite roll-man, but doesn't want to do it. And somehow Schröder is to blame for everything although he is already an average passing PG on a shitty shooting team in his first year. You ignore that fact, too.

Calling me a nuthugger when all you do is spew BS without any facts to back them up is hilarious. Seriously, I just hope you are trolling on pourpose, because anything else would be pretty sad.

All this BS without any base i nreality. f***ing Diesel even made some obviously wrong PER numbers up. WTF is wrong with  that dude?

First of all, I think that Howard did well this season. He did what could be expected of him and until a few days ago, I would have complimented his overall attitude, because he did not (publicly) complain – but I have to scrap that part. If he is not satisfied with what he got this season and isn't looking to improve filling out this role, his worth is severely diminished.

Now, to the matter at hand. Dwight Howard is 11^th in post touches in terms of frequency (excluding Edy Tavares with 1 game and Papagiannis with not enough minutes/plays). He is 33^rd in points per possession on post touches. There are only about 40 players that average 2 post touches per game and he is the 7th worst in PPP. This is due to his (at best) average 47% FG%, his high turnover rate and bad free throw shooting. You can also look at Post Touches (i.e. a pass and reception within the paint). Amongst players with at least 20 mpg, Howard leads the league here with 7.0 per game. Amongst the same group, Howard is also 1^st in the league with 8.0 Paint Touches (getting the ball within 8 5ft of the basket).

In my opinion this clearly shows that he arguably is overused on post-ups and not the other way around. He is essentially one of if not THE player in the league, that is most used as a traditional big man.

Now let’s look at him as a Pick&Roll player as the rolling man. Among 107 players that have more than 1 possession of this kind and have played more than 20 games, Howard has the 9^th lowest frequency as the roll man with 10.1%. Paul Millsap, for example, is at 23.4% (33^rd). Dwight Howard scores 1.18 PPP on these plays, which is 15^th among qualified players (Millsap has a paltry 0.86 PPP). Howards FG% of 66% is the 7^th best and his TO% 40% lower than on post-ups.

There is no way the Hawks should involve Howard in more post-plays. He already is used a ton compared to all other players and he is not very efficient at it.  He should be involved more often as the roll-man in P&R plays. But as Budenholzer already publicly said: he has to come out and set screens in the first place (and decent ones) to do that. His scoring would skyrocket. But Dwight doesn’t want that.

Let’s look at ball hog Schröder. Among 113 Guards (some players like Antetokounmpo are listed as Guards also) with at least 20 games played and 20 mpg, Schröder is 16^th with 57 passes per game. He is 14^th in assists (tied with known ball hog Mike Conley), 8^th in Secondary Assists (the “hockey assist”), 13^th in potential assists and 25^th in Asts/TO ratio. Considering the Hawks had the 8^th worst 3-point shooting percentage (with the 16^th most shots) and were only average on converting 2-point FGs, these numbers seem pretty okay.

So if your pont is that a 17th pick in his first year as a starter is only an average passer, you are correct. If you think THAT is the problem, you are being an idiot (once more).

vor 18 Stunden, Hotlanta1981 sagte:

But people seem to think Dennis can lead this team somewhere as the best player or whatever. He can't. He will be the 3rd best player on a team with any kind of realistic championship aspirations. 

The thing you (and others) don't seem to grasp is that it is not "1st year starter, 23 year old, 17th's pick" Schröders problem if he is the best player on a team and can't carry them to the finals. It says something about the team and who put it together and not about Schröder (or Millsap, for that matter). Blaming (vastly) overperforming players for a teams struggles is idiotic.

Dwight Howard was 3rd on the team in the playoffs with a PER of 14.1, 5 of the 9 rotation palyers were below 10.

vor 17 Stunden, Watchman sagte:

Never said that Baze was better than Dennis, just that Dennis killed the rally with his stupid decision making...again.  

Last time I checked a three from each corner and a two from inside the three point line was three baskets.  It was during the catch up phase, in the 4th quarter.  I consider that to be down the stretch.  Ostensibly, you do not. 

How dare Schröder not play perfect for 48 minutes! You can'expect players to get you back into games without expecting them to make a few mistakes while doing so.

But I guess you would rather lose by 20+ points with your best players playing safe and conservative all game than having a fighter's chance to win the game...or prefer Matthew Dellavedova over James Harden, because that dude commits a turnover late in the game sometimes. (keeping in mind that Schröder had the 2nd lowest TO% of all players, the 3rd highest TS% etc.).

You can't pick and chose when players miss shots or makes a mistake and say "I'll take the 24 ppg and 7.5 apg on 59% TS% with only a TOV% 0f 7.4 (which is insane), but he also has to hit all important shots and never make a mistake during crucial stretches". This is not how it works.

I am calling it now: Hawks will lose because they get zero respect from the refs.

edit: This is without question the biggest travesty I have seen in a long time. HOW IN THE WORLD DOES BEAL NOT GET A TECH? HOW?

Plus, Gortat and Morris stepped onto the court. Which should be automatic suspension/ejections.