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Hawks management just want to churn a profit they could care less about superstars and winning championships. Superstars don't grow on trees but if you don't draft them it's still to get one through free agency only IF management sells the star on the Hawks. I haven't seen that effort by past Hawk owners so the jury is still out for this current recent new owner. Will see how much he wants to win by the moves made in the off season.  

Correction on my part Hawks did acquire Splitter which I thought was a good move but now it seems like a bad one. I agree no one should be safe on the roster. 

This is what happens when management doesn't go out and get better players. Losing DMC causes ripple effects on the team. Management's answer was to get Hardaway who has turned into a bench warmer not to mention losing the draft pick who could have been developed. Hardaway is what he is another dumb move by management. My hope is Schröder gets dealt for a wing player that can start. Draft bpa hopefully a big but as long as the kid can start eventually. The team was as good as it was going to get last year. REMEMBER THIS YOU CAN ALWAYS TELL WHCH TEAMS WANT TO WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS BY THE OFF SEASON MOVES AND WHICH ONES OUR JUST HAPPY MAKING THE PLAYOFFS . Unfortunately the hawks seemed to have owners who just want to make the playoffs and not go very far. They'll take the profit the playoffs give and be happy meanwhile the fan is pissed because the team doesn't advance. Just another year being a Hawks fan. 

Happened that way in the playoffs last year Hawks looking like deer in headlights at end of game. The more things change the more things stay the same. Nice job by Hawks management to improve the roster going into the season. Hardaway whats he doing now..lol.

Keep the same pieces as last year you get the same results during the clutch. No ball movement at all and what was Teague thinking letting 10 seconds go off the clock so he could do his head fake jump shot which he didn't even get it off. TERRIBLE clutch play by the Hawks and Teague. You battle all game to end up like a deer in head lights when it matters most. CAN WE PLEASE GET SOME BETTER PLAYERS.

Hawks just choked. Terrible shot selection in overtime and once again last position in regulation look like a deer in head lights not knowing how to set up a winning shot.  

Whose jumping ship? I've been a fan since the late 70s. I m saying the way the Hawks are currently constructed they won't go far if your wanting championships. The Hawks may win by double digits tomorrow that still won't change my long term outlook on the team. It's easy to get excited if you haven't followed the Hawks that long however you have to accept the Hawks for what they are a team that will make the playoffs most years and get bounced in the 1st or 2nd series most years.

What I'd like to see for the current Hawks is the team play solid ball none of this one on one play. Clutch shooting,Sap,Horford playing big in big games,Korver hitting the 3s and Teague being a distributor of the ball. I can accept losing if the team can play solid ball. Schröder I don't see the development and don't think he'll change despite being young. Will see what happens tomorrow but don''t get to excited or low its just another Hawks season. 

Hawks won 60 games last year where did that get them vs Cleveland who wasn't even at full strength. Playoff basketball is an entirely different animal. You watch a team like Golden State that they can rebound when they have to, play great defense and can hit the outside shot. Also they have a number of go to men on the team. The Hawks same issues as last year no go to players at end of the game. The team looks lost out there at certain times. There is to much one on one basketball as we saw last night, no post game etc etc like last year. Even beating the Celtics in the series really isn't a huge accomplishment their no where near the best teams in the league and also remember Boston has two of their players out and still beat the hawks. It's not just one loss its a multitude of problems with the Hawks team one year later and its almost the same team that got destroyed vs Cleveland. 

Do you trade Dennis in the off season. Hawks draft 21st won't get much there. A point guard should be setting up players to make them better . This should be the no1 ability of a point guard. Dennis has alot of maturity issues understandably but even at this early stage I don't think he'll change. He is to much a one on one player instead of a distributor. Yes the point guard should score but last night's game was just a reminder Dennis doesn't seem to have the traits to be an outstanding point guard.

Hawks got down early and came back but look at who the opposition is the Celtics. Try doing that vs an elite team most of the time you get put away. Hawks would lose by 20-30 vs the better teams. Positives Kyle was making 3s.

I agree the Hawks since they can't sign any superstar free agents or draft them will be satisfied with what they have. Sap and Horford shouldn't be getting max contracts but if they went else where Hawks management is scared the team will be one of the worst in the NBA thus profits for the year will be bad and the owners will take a hit in the pocket book. Wish we had owners that knew how to recruit and find ways to get a superstar or 2 here that way the hawks would win more in the playoffs and generate more profits for the owners creating a win win for the fans and the owner(s). Nope instead Hawks will just be good enough to make the playoffs like we have the last 7-8 years and get bounced rounds 1 or 2. Last year was more an aberration than anything. Sorry to say that but the teams the Hawks beat to get to the ECF were not that good.

Based on what I have seen so far I don't like how the Hawks are assembled. If you want to play basketball with the big boys (Golden State,Cleveland,San Antonio) you need better shooters from the outside, able to rebound and a go to player or 2 when it counts. Teague is a good player but he isn't clutch when it counts and he is the best the Hawks have. Neither is Sap or Horford clutch and they'll be making the max. The Hawks just are not built right to compete vs the best teams in the NBA.

Agree 100%. Milsap just disappears in playoff games. Looks like the Hawks got burned in overpaying Sap. Also remember Hawks lost DMC because of the 2 extra million Sap got paid so there was no money left for DMC.

Starting out 2nd half slow again. I am surprised the Hawks are this close in the game. If they could put it together could win this game. The Celtics keep letting them hand around.

Where is that high basketball IQ by the Hawks? Just terrible playing. Missed shots galore, Schröder trying to take over the game missing dumb shots, no consistent outside game by the Hawks nor inside game. Hawks easy to defend when they throw up brick after brick. Milsap hasn't done much for a 19 million a year man.

Dwight just wants to get paid that's all. Makes you wonder how hard he practices . Must have poor work ethic since with all his ability still doesn't have a consistent offensive game. He likes all the glamour and fame but doesn't put the work into the game to be one of the greats.

Hawks barely beat the Celtics in Atlanta. Will the Hawks play better or will the Celtics next game? You can bet if Korver,Schröder etc etc continue to not shoot well and the Hawks lose  alot more pressure will be on the Hawks. You never know with this team if its going to be Heckyl or Jekyll thus hard to predict which team comes out.   

Well Kyle needs to get it going. He's getting open shots and needs to knock them down. Last year he had injuries this year? If you cant do it in the playoffs when can you. This goes for anyone on the roster. We had enough excuses last year now lets see the team do it on the court.  

3 hours ago, Hotlanta1981 said:

Korver is completely washed up.

Honestly, the game was close because he was so bad. He mostly misses the would be timely shots that he used to hit.

I can find playground players who can shoot better than Korver. Missing open shots in the playoffs time after time is a killer.

Sound like same team as this year minus Baz. I don't think Thabo can put up the numbers as Baz has. Small forward is needed/shooting guard.

1 hour ago, Alex said:

I would rather spin Dennis to some desperate team than let Teague walk next season.  Teague is so much better and right now Dennis can't hold a candle to him.  

Philly needs a point guard and Okafor is said to be available. It would take alot more to get Okafor and I just don't think the Hawks have enough.

7 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Huh? We do have high Basketball IQ 

Not against elite competition?

5 hours ago, BigDog90 said:

Al, Hardaway, Teague and Bazemore could become even better three pointer shooters next season. Hardaway should be a 6th man of the Year candidate. Oh yeah Splitter should be healthy.

Just like the Hawks should have won more games this year I just don't see it. I don't see the growth in their games to get better. Baz was a nice surprise but even with Splitter being healthy( no certainty) the guarantee. In addition the Hawks don't have a high basketball IQ thus will eventully fold against the better teams. Unless the Hawks can add to the talent base I don't see anything to be excited about another 1st or 2nd rd exit next year.  

57 minutes ago, Hotlanta1981 said:

Yeah... This team is unlikely to improve much after their first or second round exit.

You can say that about every year most of the time. It would probably be better to tank and get rid of star players and have a shot at a high pick potential superstar than keep doing the same thing year after year since no big free agents want to come to Atlanta.