StephenHawking

Man im just happy in general about how much media exposure the Hawks get since we acquired trae

vor 2 Minuten, EazyRoc sagte:

Not that I don’t agree, but all three could be really really good pros. Barrett and Reddish should sit right at the top. Williamson is the most likely because he doesn’t really have a position in the pros yet. Reddish has to prove he is an NBA athlete. His skill set reminds me of Nicolas Batum. Barrett has to prove he can handle better and shoot, but looks like a no brainer in every other aspect of his game. The comparison to DeRozan I’ve been seeing seems fair. Williamson has the most to prove IMO. Regardless of what position he will be able to defend, he’s got to prove that he can be a shooting threat off the catch at minimum. He is an extremely rare athlete though, but he’s got to develop his game the most out of the 3. Neither of them seem, on paper, like they will play all that well together.

I'm not disagreeing either. In fact the one that will fall will likely be a high value pick. They are all crazy talented.

The thing is there's no place in one team for 3 first option type of players. They have to share usage which results in at least one of them dropping in the rankings

vor 1 Minute, DBac sagte:

He just contributes to a fan site. He has no affect on what the franchise actually does.

No but his and other beat writers work still seriously affects the hawks.

If beat writers on fan sites or a column constantly shit-talk 80% of the franchise you don't have to wonder when other guys without inside start repeating those phrases until it becomes a fact.

Thats were it actually starts hurting the Hawks in value.

vor 1 Minute, EazyRoc sagte:

This trade just destroyed all of our win projections for the year. I say this team wins 20 as an absolute max. At least I have a reason to really watch college ball this season. It should be fun watching Duke figure out how to turn Barrett, Reddish, and Williamson into a winning lineup.

One of them will fall in the draft

vor einer Stunde, KB21 sagte:

@Peoriabird

Brad Rowland is the worst thing that  ever happened to this franchise. 

Never seen a dude lowball his own franchise that much. 

Get outta here with that crap

vor 3 Minuten, kg01 sagte:

Absolutely right.  Kid worked, got much better.  It was nice to watch his progression.  I'll be keeping tabs on him in OKC.  One of my favorite players, for some reason. 

I f*cking hate how everyone turned his back on him. Its not that he did something throughout this offseason. Its agenda-driven shittalk against him what caused all that. 

vor 2 Stunden, KB21 sagte:

Both players are issues.  Dwight was traded by Charlotte because of his locker room presence.  Dennis famously had a spat with Dirk Nowitzki of all people on the German National Team.  Both players are locker room issues.

You can't blame Dwight's issues on Dennis when Dwight had issues in LA, Houston, Atlanta, and now Charlotte.

Link or it didn't happen

vor 10 Stunden, Vol4ever sagte:

How can you say that?  Show me one deal he has won?

In hindsight the Dwight Howard deal was better than what the Hornets got out of him. Drafting John Collins was the right move. The jury is out on this years prospects and what will happen with Dennis remains to be seen but for now he did good. 

I can't really think of a bad move so far honestly 

Good Trade for both sides honestly. 

The LT savings for OKC are tremendous. 

The Hawks get Dennis off the books and facilitate a buyout for Melo. 

A little sad as an obvious Schröder fan that he probably has to stick to a 6th man role. 

Okc should definitely add a first rounder. I'm all for 2021 because that should be one of the beat drafts in ages due to highschoolers getting in

vor 5 Stunden, Vol4ever sagte:

Both.  

Well so far Schlenks performance doesn't match your argument

vor 36 Minuten, Vol4ever sagte:

Your finding out what bad is soon................................

Are you referring to Pierce or Schlenk. Because we talk about Schlenk who clearly does a good job so far

vor 30 Minuten, KB21 sagte:

Bud would have been fine with it if this was just a rebuild, but this isn't just a rebuild.  This is a long term tank.

How was a rebuild possible after the poor job Bud did as a president 

vor 12 Minuten, macdaddy sagte:

Some of the negativity is overboard i agree.  But the truth is it isn't the offseason.  It was the season.   The arrest plus the horrible defense and shooting when he had a chance to show out.  It really was the defense that disturbed me because it seemed like lack of effort.  

But the truth is that players can only do what they can do.   It wasn't a good situation for Dennis to thrive.   I think this season will be a worse situation than last but  you never know.   

I actually was disappointed in him last season too. I partially blame the situation for it as you do too. However I think he'll do better this season. I'm quite sure he gon play with fierce again, eager to get his value back up.

vor 6 Minuten, AHF sagte:

There is a market for everyone.  There is a market for Plumlee if we attach some picks to him even though he is the definition of a high paid, low impact player.  To me, the key issue is whether we want to shop him (the answer seems to be a definite "yes") and, if so, what we are willing to take.  The range of offers go from "I'll take your bad contract and give you cash and picks" to "you give me cap relief, cash and picks."  There is an ocean of room in between where the parties need to meet at a point for a trade to happen.

You're right about that.

My personal opinion is that the fo wouldn't deal him for a bad contract and a second. They probably want either a first attached or a player with some value at least

vor 29 Minuten, kg01 sagte:

You are misrepresenting what Charania actually reported ... which was nothing basically.

Essentially he said the Hawks value Dennis higher than the offerings do. That means there's a market. Please elaborate what I misinterpretated 

vor 8 Minuten, kg01 sagte:

Nah, we're discussing the merits and pitfalls of tanking ... oh wait, that's every other thread.  My bad. 

Yeah, it seems the Hawks are trying to move him.  Much to the obvious dismay of our German contingent.

There is no dismay. Don't construct something that's not there. 

I simply find it confusing how one off season changed the view of the nearly the entire fanbase on Dennis. 

I'm ready to move on because we have Trae now but I don't understand all those blame assignments and shitting on him. 

vor 2 Minuten, macdaddy sagte:

Don't know why his fans would be dismayed when that's what Dennis wants.   

Yeah I'm not dismayed by it. I'm a Hawks fan and I'm ready to move on.

vor 52 Minuten, Diesel sagte:

Nobody wants him. 

We'll be fortunate to get a 2nd round pick for him. 

The League have watched and listened from the mountains. They have watched with disgust as our team have been overseen by a child…who scoffs at sportsmanship, team play, and professionalism.  And now we want to trade this child who could not even win with Millsap and Howard because he would not pass the ball. 

 

Lmao what a bunch of nonsense

vor 1 Minute, JayBirdHawk sagte:

I was referencing the post and links from campster. 

Shams report doesn't give any indication of Dennis' value.

You mentioned my name that's why

vor 9 Stunden, JayBirdHawk sagte:

 

No offense, but StephenHawking said 'credible sources'. I have no idea who these are. 

Shams Charania or whatever his name is. He is one of the most reliable reporters around the nba

vor 4 Minuten, kg01 sagte:

I think you're misconstruing.  Nowhere in that story does it suggest there's a fervent market for Dennis.  This is all it says about him ...

https://sports.yahoo.com/trae-young-shaking-off-early-summer-league-demons-step-franchise-star-role-135407432.html

To trade Dennis right now, we would have to add an asset.  That's an untenable situation and totally explains why they haven't traded him yet.

Ok well I imply that, by saying that the value in the offerings is not right so far, there are a couple of interested teams. To what extent the value differs is certainly a different question.

It's actually the top post on the Hawks reddit 

vor 7 Minuten, kg01 sagte:

It sounds like you could be misconstruing something you read.  Dennis is pretty toxic right now and I say that as a Dennis fan.

No I totally got that right

vor 17 Minuten, JayBirdHawk sagte:

I do agree that they do tend to slant more negative, but please post your lonks on what the general consensus is regarding Dennis' value around the league.

vor 15 Minuten, JayBirdHawk sagte:

When was this? How long ago?

Like yesterday I guess. Definitely recent.

vor 1 Minute, JayBirdHawk sagte:

Please post the links.

I'm with my phone and it's a pain in the a** to look for it and copy and paste it. I'm pretty sure it was Shams who reported it.

vor 7 Minuten, JayBirdHawk sagte:

If you say so, but you can't keep burying your head in the sand.

 

Which part is fake? This....

Or just the part about them trying to trade him?

I really don't get why hawks beat writers, reporters and newspapers always tend to stir something as negative as possible. I mean isn't their job to attract more people to the Hawks market and additionally spread news to better the value and negotiation situation of the Hawks.