thefloydian

I just have no desire to sign someone like Warrick to a 3-year deal. I don't see how that makes us any better. I'd rather just keep the current team than do something like that.

Oh, did I mention he would be much cheaper?

He wouldn't really be cheaper considering we'd have to sign him in addition to Morris.

I obviously don't know a lot about most the coaches since I don't follow the teams like I do the Hawks, but I find it hard to believe that any coach could be much worse than Woody.

Putting someone on ignore and then continuing to talk to them while saying they're on ignore is pretty weak.

They're very similar players and even though Joe Smith is probably a little better Warrick is MUCH younger and you can probably get him to sign a 3 year contract whereas you might only get a year out of Joe Smith.

I guess. I'm no expert, but I just thought while neither of them are really want we need, Joe Smith is more of an inside force than Warrick. Warrick seems like a 3 to me.

He seems like a jerk from what I've seen on NBA TV. Maybe that is what this team needs though.

Fact is

That's actually an opinion, not a fact.

I'd spend equal dollars on him before I spent them on Joe Smith all day long.

Really? I don't get it.

I just don't think there are enough minutes to go around to re-sign Flip. I don't know anything about Petro, but I'd rather have Smith than Swift or Oberto.

Don't they still have Bonner too? And I heard Oberto might re-sign with them as well.

I think you're very Marvin sensitive Floyd. My first and second post are about the fact that I believe (unlike you) that Joe's best position is Sf. IF Marvin is signed, I still believe this. If Marvin goes to Portland I still believe this. My basis for this belief is what we saw when Joe played Sf and Flip played SG. Now we just traded for a SG prospect better than Flip. Crawford is a better natural scorer than Flip. Taller than FLip. Puts up more points than Flip. Has been at considered as a guy who could compete to be on the allstar team in the west.. Your Marvin sensitivity makes you think this is about Marvin. This is not about Marvin directly, this is answering the question, what's our best lineup.

You said it would pain you to see Joe at Sf. I said Joe played Sf for 1/4 of the year last year and he did a good job. Where was the pain?

You can be annoyed.

You can be afflicted.

You can be whatever you want to be.

However, right now, you look a tad bit too Sensitive.

I'm not even going to respond to this in-depth. All I will say is that I am not at all Marvin sensitive. I have even agreed with you multiple times that he isn't worth 8 million dollars and overall has underachieved, though not by the margin that you say, in general. I just tire of having every conversation turned in the direction of how he sucks and should be traded/released/benched/etc.

That's really a legitimate opinion, although one could argue why that lineup wouldn't work. I get what you're trying to say, and I think I got a better example.

Here When I saw the 2nd option in that poll, I just shook my head.

I don't even care what the opinion is. It had nothing to do with what I said. He just randomly throws something about Marvin sucking in response to me saying Smith isn't a 3.

im pretty sure they will work on getting his release higher....

But he did shoot a nice clip from 3 last season.If its not broke dont fix it?

idk but it still bothers me,hopefully it wont matter

It didn't look low in that video.

Diesel's second post in this thread is a great example of how annoying he can be:

http://www.hawksquawk.net/community/index.php?showtopic=338274

About his shot being low, I didn't watch all the videos so I don't know, but were there multiple instances of it? Cause this video shows him shooting higher than that:

Look at around 31 seconds in.

I think I've seen him shooting other times too and it wasn't as low as that three in the first video.

edit: There's other shots on this video too and none of them look as short as that one to me. Maybe that's just how he shoots if he's wide open.

You mean as painful as it was this year when we had Flip at the 2 and we were a better team than we had been with Marvin playing??

How about talent? Just what we need ...another project that will never contribute.

We need a veteran(s) big man who is going to come in and give us quality minutes off the bench.

I don't think he's advocating Siler over a veteran. Anyone who wants Siler wants him in addition to a legitimate NBA player.

Siler is a center that can push other bigs around, and he shoots a high percentage from the field. That's what we need. I see nothing wrong with signing him.

I want to sign him too, but I'm pretty sure even if we do he will never see the floor.

Q: Challengers in a scrap yard?

A: Actually I confused it for a Dodge Charger.

Q: I really have no idea why that car was posted in this thread

A: I think Teague mentioned ,during the interview, that he bought one recently.

Also:

The guys giving the interview were picking on him for buying such an ordinary car.

I don't see why the guy was picking on him. I think Challengers are pretty cool lookin' cars, especially if you do some stuff to them.

Smith at the 3 would be painful to watch. Even more painful than the normal pain that is the Hawks offense.

i wonder if we could trade morris for a late 2nd rounder....we need to sign siler before someone else does.

Doubtful.

Okay, this is worrisome.

It should be intuitive that, in any given group of players, some number of them are going to stand out above the others... that has very little bearing, however, on whether they are capable of playing even minor minutes on one of 30 top-eschelon professional basketball teams in the U.S.

Sorry to be Darrin Downer, but let's temper our enthusiasm, shall we?

If you put Solo in the minicamp player group, that's the same number of those type of players we had last year:

West, Solo, Othello, Richardson, Morris

does anyone know if randolph morris' contract this year is guarenteed? one site i looked at said it wasn't (hoopsworld i think), but i haven't seen it mentioned on any other site i looked up. i think siler could be the biggest thing to get randmo off his lazy *ss and work on his game. he's in the last year of his contract and if there's this kid from augusta state pushing him around, he'd better step up or lose his place in the league.

Sham shows it as guranteed: http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/hawks.jsp

His site is usually pretty accurate, but I suppose he could be wrong about someone as random as Randolph Morris.

Gasol played PF for most of the season. I was really talking about his post-season performance. However, if that's the case, you can count Andrew Bynum as well.

Yeah, I'm not arguing that Bynum's not a pretty good shot blocker, I just never thought of Gasol as one.