AnthonyI11

EVERYONE and i mean EVERYONE on this forum goes insane. You guys panic..say everyone on the team sucks, we arent going anywhere..blah..blahh..blah. Then when we win you guys are like yeaaah! joe is great! marvin is great woooooo. My point is.. if youre going to be a fairweather fan go find another team to "cheer" for cause im SICK AND TIRED of reading the same 4 threads everyday. "Marvin sucks" "teague belings in d league" "mike bibby sucks and is gay" "joe johnson is horrible" Go find another team. :brick wall:

Then Trade marvin williams for rasul butler

The Cavs are gonna resign hm..

How does Big Z fit our style of play better then Gooden, BUT I would also rather have Big Z instead, too. Im sure the Cavs resign his old *ss

i think he fits our up and down style of play. hes a MUUUCH better option then joe smith. i mean why not?

Should we make a run for him in free agency? I think he would be a good back up power foward. much better then Joe Smith. and he's a decent low post scorer. i think we MUST do this.

This is not being rumored. But on Insidehoops.com it has been made clear the Clippers are making Al Thornton available. I like Marvin.. not a hater at all, but would you guys do that trade?

Best thread ever started.

I thought all games were televised this season?? :help wanted3:

All this forum ever does is cry and whine about Marvin Williams. There must be 10 new threads about Marvin everyday. The kid goes out and continues to fight. He can guard big fowards and guards and hustles every minute he is in. In the first half I believe he has 8 points and 7 rebounds including a nice put back dunk and a few nice step back jumpers. I want to give some credit to Marvin and hope he keeps playing hard.

Ok, I am not trying to start a hate topic on Marvin Williams at all. I love the dude. I really want him to succeed and wishes he had improved as much as he said he did over the off season. But this is reality and the numbers just aren't coming. I thought the addition of Jamal Crawford would actually help him, creating more open looks then ever before. I think it's time for Marvin to go. We need to trade Marvin for someone who strictly plays defense and shoots a high percentage from 3. Kind of like Shane Battier or James Posey (3 years ago). I really don't want to see Marvin go, but for the sake of the team I think a defender+3 point shooter is what we need to go that extra step.

Joe is better than Ray

I honestly do NOT see it.. AT ALL. Why? He did nothing wrong and you guys are all over him about trading him. I know his contract is sorta big, but he's what we need. PG leadership who can stroke 3's as easy as 1.2.3.

You're right about that, but it would be good to get him in there just to score some. He can be that guy that's on every NBA team and sits in the corner and knocks down those 3's.

PG- Mike Bibby 14ppg 6.5apg 3rpg SG- Joe Johnson 23ppg 6apg 5.5rpg SF- Marvin Williams 17ppg 2apg 6rpg PF- Josh Smith 20ppg 3.5apg 9rpg C-Al Horford 13.5ppg 2apg 10.4rpg BENCH- PG- Acie Law 7.8ppg 3.6apg 1.0rpg SG- Maurice Evans 11.2ppg 2.0apg 3.0rpg SG/SF- Jeremy Richardson(i prefer him over Luke Jackson) 4.0ppg 1.0apg 1.3rpg PF/C- Randolph Morris 2.0ppg 0.7apg 3rpg(limited playing time) We'll see what kinda time he gets. C- Zaza Pachulia 5.4ppg 1.0apg 4.6rpg I prefer we sign Jeremy Richardson over Luke Jackson. I honestly think Jeremy Richardson can be a great player. He's a KNOCK DOWN 3pt/Mid Range shooter that we never use. Believe it or not I also have high hopes for Solomon Jones. We never used him, and I'm pretty sure we will continue not to use him, but there's something about him that i see. 08-09 Record Prediction- 44-38.

We don't need Kwame, he's a waste of $8 million. Randolph came cheap and he'll probably ened up being better then Kwame Brown.

then i guess Josh Smith deserves it too. Emeka was signed to a 6year/72 million deal today. If Emeka deserves 12 million then Josh Smith should just get his 12 million. I'm sick of waiting this out.

If josh smith didn't block weakside shots, i got this from what you wrote, he would be nothing like al harrington. Al is a good perimeter shooter and just overall better at offense then smith. i still don't want al back, i was just proving a point. COME BACK J SMITH! STOP BEING GREEDY! MONEY RUINS SPORTS!

You guys realize this is a good pick up for size, but it does not solve our center problem right? Don't get too happy about this. I'll shut my mouth if he plays for the Hawks like he did at Kentucky.

Ehh... Lets hope Smith returns and realizes he's not worth superstar money just yet.

No way im starting Kwame Brown(note i said that as if i was Stephen A) and I don't want to start Randolph Morris. That's if we get either of them. I just want Smith to come back, you know? Money RUINS sports.

Do you guys realize what we would lose. Lets say the Pistons trade went down and we got Tayshaun and Johnson. Ok, we have a 3, who's our 4? We have NO PF. I'm not starting Johnson or Zaza. We would have NO 4. Same stuff goes down if we got Odom. NO 4. Josh Smith was not only a defensive monster, he was also a good rebounder. If either of these trades go down... well i guess Horford will need to average 20 boards a game. The hawks need to stop being cheap for one second and just give Josh Smith his 12 million. What's worse, signing josh smith to a higher contract then he deserves and overspending a little bit, or losing J-Smoove and recieving nothing? You can do the math.