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  1. I saw on NBAdraft.com and hoopshype.com that Atlanta will select either Armon Johnson, combo guard from Neveda or some under-sized PF. (Aren't those what this team is made up of?) I know the Hawks worked out Greivis Vasquez, but I also want them to look at Jon Scheyer from Duke. Both are capable guards who are 6-5 plus and can shoot. I'd rather have basketball players than these one-and-done 9.8 ppg players we've never heard of. Holla!
  2. For the most part, I don't think we see a lot of players developing into All-Stars in the NBA. After the first year, guys just become who they will be for the rest of their career. Aside from Jermaine O'Neal, who I consider his career to be a huge dissappointment, I honestly can't think of anyone who became an All-Star after four or five years of erratic play. Maybe Josh Smith will be different, but it hasn't seemed like he's improved any part of his game since entering the league. Holla!
  3. Not being a downer... but how come it didn't take Lebron 5 years to turn into a productive player? In 5 years, LeBron is the game's best. Can we expect Smith to be among the top five or even a perenniel All-Star? Holla!
  4. I don't think Sund would be crusified for letting go of Woodson. It would let many know that they have high expectations. My question is with the 4th seed in teh playoffs and a second round exit... isn't that why the Atlanta Hawks blew up the 1999 team. They said they were tired of being mediocre and wanted to take steps to be a championship team. Now... the second round is not only an accomplishment... it is a goal. Simply comical. Holla!
  5. 1. I am missing the cause for all of this bashing of Acie Law's game. The idea of he couldn't shoot shocks me. When did we find out he couldn't shoot... the first or second year? I tell you, when you average four shots a game, your average can get pretty low. 2. Acie is not a change-of-pace guy? What the heaven kind of pace are we changing from in Woody's "offense?" There is no pace to his offense and I guess Acie doesn't fit in with our pot-luck style of standing around. 3. Lost cause?!!! I refer back to No. 1... in the first or second year he was here? I'm not saying losing Law and gaining Teague was the right or wrong move, but how the heaven do we know. These two years is not what I call giving anyone a chance. Watching Rajon Rondo and Rodney Stuckey go through turnovers and playing time before becoming productive starters is what I call giving someone a chance. But saying Teague is going to be so much better is asinine, because we simply don't know. Holla!
  6. I hear many on both sides of the fence about Josh Smith, saying that he is still growing and maturing and the Hawks will be glad they kept him. My question is: What will a mature Josh Smith look like? So far it has been five years and I want to know what should I and we expect from Smith as he becomes 26, 27, 28 years old? Should we expect an All-Star who scores 25 points a night... is he a tremendous on-the-ball defender that hustles and runs the floor... Will he turn into a low-post presents with a strong move to the basket? In the five years Smith has been a Hawk, I honestly can't tell one thing he does on a consistent basis. I am not bashing or saying we should get rid of him... all I'm saying is right now, he does a lot of stuff... some good and some bad, but nothing consistent. What do some of you think he will be in the coming years? Holla!
  7. After a lackluster performance and making a professional statement by Jon Barry personal, I think Mike Woodson owes Barry an apology because as offended as Woodson was, he still got swept in embarrassing fashion just as the analyst said. Mike... now turn to Jon and say, "I'm sorry and play nice." Holla!
  8. You make yourself sound foolish. When Knight and Woodson realized after playing significant minutes for less than half of a season, Woodson realized Acie was not the guy? With that kind of logic, PG's like Tony Parker, Monta Ellis, Chris Duhon, Jarrett Jack, Jameer Nelson, Mo Williams, Rodney Stuckey or anyone else taken late rounds shouldn't be productive starters either... because none of them had to adjust to the NBA and improve before becoming starters. (sarcasm) When guys have the skill-set, like Acie Law has, GOOD coaches train and develop them to help them get better. Don't get misled by the 2007-08 playoff appearance. The Hawks had no business in the post-season winning only 37 games. In fact, Woodson and his ridiculous strategy of "if it doesn't work... do it some more!" helped his team back into the playoffs by dropping four of the final five games, then not coming within 100 points of beating Boston in Boston. In that time, Law could have been developing so we are not in this position. Holla!
  9. I think that many fans on this cite understand that the NBA is a player-driven league and just because the players are getting older we all know they are getting better. However, as many Hawks fans have seen, we don't know how much influence Mike Woodson has on this team on a nightly basis. We as fans get the players and coaches talk about how unprepared they were to play, or unmotivated. Honestly, anyone one of us can stand on the sidelines, play the same people and never make adjustments even when our brains are getting kicked in. Holla!
  10. Good numbers, but you are making my point for me. Why did Marvin not start from day one, knowing you were losing Harrington and weren't winning anything? Yeah he was 19, but Chris Paul was 20 playing a much tougher position and he started from day one. You passed on long-term answers at the PG, but Salim and Royal are splitting time with players that were third string PG's at the peak of their careers. Getting good minutes and trying to build something relevant are two completely different things. Lue putting up better numbers is a cop-out, because no other team he played with viewed him as a starter. In my opinion, Woodson did his best to lower expectations to make these small steps seem a lot bigger than what they were.
  11. Good points except for one misunderstanding. The year Marvin Williams and Salim were drafted, neither started one game. Knowing the team was going to trade Al Harrington, Woodson still started Harrington and Ty Lue, Tony Delk or Royal Ivey (for 5 minutes) at PG. I think that team won 27 games. He never changed the lineup, knowing those guys weren't going to be here.
  12. That is a load and you know it. There has not been one player that has gotten better under Mike Woodson. We all have watched our draft picks get surpassed by players we passed on... not because they are more talented, but they play for coaches that establishes roles for his players and they focus on getting better in their roles. Luo Deng and Andre Iguodala surpassed Childress, we know Paul and Deron Williams, Chris Duhon taken after Royal Ivey, J.R. Smith has become a much better player than Josh Smith who was taken a pick before. Even Al Horford who many agree is a good pick, what specifically has he been asked to do in Woodson's "system." Face it, we still don't know what position Josh Smith, Marvin Williams and Al Horford are trying to play. They just float with no direction and this team has never had any sort of identity unders Woodson. Honestly, the Hawks under Woodson simply look like a pick-up game night-in and night-out. Holla!
  13. Two points... One, no one will trade for Acie Law because they don't know what he is capable of. In fact, the Hawks don't know what he is capable of because Woodson buried him behind Tyronn Lue on a 30-win team. That is lazy and ridiculious coaching. Secondly, when you bury players at the end of the bench without letting them develop, the Hawks run the risk of getting screwed over like in the Joe Johnson deal. 2 first round picks and a player we thought was worthless because he never played under Woodson. I have a feeling that if you let Law go, he will be a more productive starter than Jarrett Jack or Rajon Rondo. Holla!
  14. I'm sorry, but this is not a smart move by the Hawks. Sund needs to get with the owners and make a strong decision. Obviously, the owners and Sund aren't completely sold on the direction Woodson is taking the Hawks, but feel obligated to stick with him because of his pedestrian improvement every year. Either say Woodson is your guy and give him an extension or move on with another coach. What seems most likely to happen is the worst case scenario for the Hawks which is Woodson getting fired mid-season and Sund has to then find an interim before a permanent replacement for the 2010-11 season. As a fan, I beg the owners to stop being so PC, thank Woodson for his time and what he's done and get someone who can put an identity with this team. Bump for Eddie Jordan... Holla!
  15. The toughest part about being a fan of this team is they're total reative approach to this team. When Arthur Blank saw Jim Mora Jr. wasn't working, he made a change despite Mora's winning record. Either Woodson and the front office has failed at developing ANY of our young talent or the front office blew it on every single draft pick. Every year, fans say, "All Josh Smith needs to do is..." but whatever he needs to do he hasn't done it in five years. Woodson has failed Acie Law, Solomon Jones and even Al Horford. Salim Stoudamire produced the few times he played and the GM lets him go... then signs an older version of the sharp-shooting combo-guard in Flip Murray. The truth is Acie Law could be a Rajon Rondo or a Jarrett Jack if not better, but with our current administration being so reactive and reluctant to make necessary changes, I think we as fans would still be wondering what Chris Paul and Deron Williams were capable of as Hawks because they would have played for Mike Woodson... ask Boris Diaw. Holla!
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