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I just don't see how not using the TPE or having some scrub like a Dampier is better than finding a guy who is a productive bench player and one of the best 3pt shooters in the league. If there were better options for the TPE then I'm all for it, but I've yet to see anyone come up with a better option at this point.

yeah I mean if we can get someone better for practically free then i'm all for it but so far he is the best option available. It works for us cause we get a backup SF who is an excellent 3pt shooter, an average bench player (better than Etan Thomas and Eric"Scrubadubdub" Dampier), and an another expiring contract that we can trade for later. Chicago wants to rebuild for 2013 since Rose is out for several more months so its a win-win for both teams. The only reason why Chicago wanted to trade him to Portland or Minnesota first was due to the fact that they probably could've gotten something in return.

I'm looking forward to seeing Jenkins the most. We all know he has a great jump shot but how will his other skills translate into the NBA? I also wanna see how Pepsi has progressed or regressed since last season.

I'm interested at the right price. Dallas and San Antonio have two of the most advanced scouting groups in the league and both want him. I know BK and Sund wouldn't have been able to pick him out of a lineup.

I agree with you 100%, Ferry must've done some advanced scouting on this guy back with the Spurs. The Mavs and Spurs are known around the league for having good international scouts. I say we sign him to a summer league contract and see how he does but I wouldn't mind him as a bench warmer for now. Nothing can be worse than Eton Thomas.

well Al was going against Lebum, Kobe, Durant, and Harden for starters so I give him some slack there. One thing that really stuck out to me while watching this game was how much freedom Horford was given with this team. I know he is their best player but to see him take the point and shoot some threes against the best team in the world was nice. Another thing I picked up on was Al's slashing to the rim and kicking out to open shooters. That's not the last time we will see him do that.

what i'm really curious too see is how Smoove and Horford play together now that JJ and Duck are gone. That along with the play of Lou and Jenkins will determine the outcome of this team.

So with the JJ trade exception we can practically get another productive shooter who can play Small Forward for basically free? (Since his salary is 5 million and the TE is 4.5 million) On top of that he is an expiring contract. Why not? We didn't do anything will the JChill TE. Pull the trigger Ferry!

Just from what i'm reading on the guy it looks like teams (mostly us, the Spurs, and Mavs) see some NBA qualities in him. It's also interesting to note that the Spurs (Ferry's old team) is going after him as well. While I don't wanna give Ferry the benefit of a doubt on an international center with low rebounding, I think he would be a good pickup for our summer league team. Who knows, San Antonio gets good international players, why can't we?

by the way, here is the spanish website discussing the Hawks' interest. if anybody can please translate i'd appreciate it. thanks.

l CAI Zaragoza quiere a Henk Norel como pívot para sustituir a Hettsheimeir. El jugador brasileño ha manejado buenas ofertas de Europa, pero ahora se centra en la NBA. Le quieren Dallas Mavericks y Atlanta Hawks, según informaciones de la prensa zaragozana confirmadas por esta web. Norel acaba contrato con el Fiatc Joventut y su renovación parece complicada. La Penya podría ir al derecho de tanteo para retenerle, pero no tiene claro si podrá pagar las cantidades de las que habla el CAI. Además, el CAI quiere a Pedro Llompart como base y le ha hecho una oferta ya que puede necesitar un base y jugadores españoles para los cupos y más si no renueva Cabezas.

http://encestando.es...t=Google Reader

went on hoopshype this morning and saw this tweet:

The Dallas Mavericks and the Atlanta Hawk, are interested in Rafael Hettsheimeir.

the link in the quote goes to a spanish website but I found another site talking a little more about him. and yes, I know its talking about the Mavs interest but since the other site did mention the Hawks in it as well I figured it was relevant.

http://bleacherrepor...el-hettsheimeir

The Dallas Morning News is reporting the Mavs have finally jumped in the hunt to shore up their front line by making an offer to Brazilian power forward/center Rafael Hettsheimeir.

Not a household name to most, Hettsheimeir has spent the last few years playing in Spain, most recently with CAI Zaragoza in Liga ACB, after starting his career in his native Brazil. Last season, the 6'10" big man averaged 13.3 points and 6.4 rebounds in 30.1 minutes per game.

Hettsheimeir recently had knee surgery and will not play in the Olympics, but DMN reports he is expected to visit the U.S. soon to evaluate his physical condition and possibly meet with NBA teams.

Various online sources, including NBAdraftnet, indicate the prospects on Hettsheimeir were cautiously optimistic on a possible career when he entered the market in 2007-08, possessing many of the basic skills and strength for competitive European hoops but possibly needing grooming for success in the NBA.

The Mavericks are largely a mixed bag of uncertainty right now and seem to be looking at a roster rich with other PF/Cs at the current time.

With centers Brendan Haywood a strong candidate for amnesty and Ian Mahinmibeing courted more aggressively by other teams, the Mavericks currently have a roster that includes Brandan Wright, Yi Jianlian and rookie Bernard James, who are all likely to play both positions, as well as Dirk Nowitzki.

Current Brazilian players in the NBA include Leandro Barbosa, Nenê, Tiago Splitter and flop specialist Anderson Varejão.

thoughts?

So long Marvin, in all honesty I blamed you for the Hawks' playoff failures but I now realize that it all wasn't your fault....even though we could've gotten Chris Paul. Still, it wasn't your fault and even though you never played as good as Paul...you had your moments. I wish you, your family, and your career the best of luck in Utah. Keep doing your thing and I wish you the best of success....just not against my Hawks.Goodbye Duck!

If you really knew Atlanta fans you'd know the below .500 part doesn't matter.

If you knew Atlanta fans close to half of them bandwagon other teams (LA/Miami/Boston) and no, i'm not talking about Hawk fans, just people in Atlanta in general. haha

Donald Sloan

Link?

yeah but Tex played college ball at Tech so I get his point. and yes. he is HATED lol

To trade Josh Smith. Ferry is getting praise for eliminating BK and Sund's errors. Time to deal with their succeses. Trade Smith not Horford. Both are positives but Horf understands the team aspect and has the intelligence and talent to be a part of a winner. Smith...not so much. We have a short window to get nice young pieces for Smith.

Depends on what happens with D-12, it makes no sense to trade the guy who could possibly get us a superstar. Now, lets say Howard gets traded to LA...I say we trade Smoove then or at least explore the market for him......again.

Well, the way I see it this is a good move for him. Obviously he wasn't gonna play here so might as well be a bigger name overseas.

http://www.sportando.net/eng/europe/turkey/40688/anadolu-efes-istanbul-in-advanced-talks-with-jordan-farmar.html

The future of Jordan Farmar could be in Europe again after his short stint with Maccabi Tel Aviv during the NBA Lockout. The PG opted in on his contract with the Nets but Farmar will be traded to the Hawks in the package for Joe Johnson when the moratorium period ends. Atlanta will waive him after July 11 and, as free agent, he is close to joining Anadolu Efes Istanbul on a 2+1, $2.5M per season deal. There are still a few details left on his contract and some bonuses that the two parts are trying to set. In the mix for Farmar there is also Fenerbahce but he seems ready to join Efes. Anadolu Efes will give him the chance to be the main PG in the team and to play in Euroleague and in one of the most important European leagues. In the season 2011-12, Farmar averaged 10.4ppg in the 39 games played in the NBA.

I'd say bring back Jamal. Yes, his defense is horrible but he can make the big shot and should fit into Drews' system easier without Joe. Plus it's obvious he wants to be a Hawk again.

Thank Dol, with all the rumors currently circulating on homecourt I thought it would be a good idea to use this to quickly document our official moves. Personally, I believe that this should be pinned throughout the offseason so our new fans can see the changes we've done.By the way, I was gonna update the move we did today with Wilcox but I can't seem to edit my original post. I don't wanna sound like a noob but how can I edit it?

Hello fellow 'squawkers, so i'm sure we all here can agree that the past several days have been one of the busiest/ most hectic periods for our beloved franchise in quite sometime. So to prevent a lot of confusion I believe that having a thread like this will streamline some of the moves we make and allow new/away members to catch up very quickly. So lets get started! GO HAWKS! [NOTE] : Mods/Dolfan I stay very busy so I might not have time to put up new moves. If you'd like you can add to the list. I just saw this as a way to streamline our moves for our offseason. Plus if you see any mistakes please correct them. [NOTE] : News is current as of July 3, 2012 [May 10, 2012] Atlanta 80, Boston 83 Game six, do or die for the Hawks. In a lockout-shortened season, 'the core' of Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Al Horford, Marvin Williams, and Zaza Pachulia once again make the playoffs as a 5th seed (but get home-court advantage due to a higher regular season record). Their opponent? the 4th seeded Boston Celtics led by vets Paul Peirce, Ray Allen, KG, and stud Rajon Rondo. After several missed opportunities throughout the series Boston once again shows just what veteran leadership means. Knocking us out in six. This leaves many fans wondering if we've seen the best this current roster has to offer? http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tqfQMyMvyY [June 25, 2012] Sund out, Ferry in After the Hawks playoff exit, news also came of then-current GM Rick Sund's contract expiration. During this time many assumed Sund would return until the Hawks made a move for Spurs VP of basketball operations Danny Ferry. After talks, Ferry agreed to a six-year contract with Atlanta. In the month or so after his hire Ferry and Sund will have a transition period sharing views on what they believe is best for the team. http://www.nba.com/h...s-atlanta-hawks http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdUWXh5jryI [June 28, 2012] NBA Draft The Hawks had two picks a first round (23rd overall) and a second round (43rd overall) With their first selection the Hawks selected John Jenkins a SG. (called by many as the BEST PURE SHOOTER in the draft) http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ftSBtSLP0 With their second pick the Hawks selected forward Mike Scott, one of the most underrated players in the draft. http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5t_ZiNqvmI [July 2, 2012] The Day. Arguably the most hectic day in Hawks offseason history. Ferry stated in an interview that he wanted to bring a championship to Atlanta. Well, here we go. The Hawks extended a Qualifying Offer to F Ivan Johnson first. Johnson, who was a tough defender brought instant energy off the bench last season even if that got the best of him at times. http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kZFMXLqru4 http://www.ajc.com/sports/moving-day-hawks-ship-1469341.html Then the Hawks did the impossible, trading six-time all-star Joe Johnson (and his contract) to the Brooklyn Nets for Anthony Morrow, Johan Petro, DeShawn Stevenson, Jordan Williams, and a lottery-protected 1st round pick. All this in a effort to clear salary and re-focus their spending on free agents. The Hawks also traded long time player Marvin Williams to the Jazz for PG Devin Harris. Stunning many but lets just say, not upsetting them. Now, the Hawks have a TON of expiring contracts making the franchise dangerous in next seasons free agency. Many around the league are stating CP3, Howard, or other superstars are possible destinations for Atlanta within the next couple of years. IN A SINGLE DAY Ferry changed the leagues perception of the Atlanta Hawks.

hahaha they will soon realize the mistake they made.

Sadly, if Sund was still GM this might actually have happened.

We only have 5 or 6 players. The law of averages says we will be involved with alot of player discussions.

yeah but i've never seen the Hawks talking to free agents of this caliber. most of the time we're talking to scrubs like Eton Thomas, Dampier, and VladRad.

well since Brooklyn re-signed Wallace he's pretty much out of the conservation. If they want to get D-12 we could talk them out of Lopez but that might be stretching it. I'm hoping we get MarShon Brooks, he can already play iso like Joe and is very young, definately worth getting.

It is nice to see our name up everywhere. We will at least be active.

very true, its really nice to see our name up on all these rumors even if they are just rumors. shows we are being active.

By the way:

Source says #Hawks not close on any deals. Discussions continue w/ Nets re: Joe Johnson

https://twitter.com/ajchawks/statuses/219470321185591296