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At first 3 years ago when you started playing devil advocate I thought you lost it, but now I know you just want to keep the conversation going, but damn you taking it tooo damn far this time DONTA SMITH BETTER THAN MARVIN WILLIAMS.................COCAINE IS A HELLAVU DRUG LOL! Man for real id your just trying to get a rise out of us thats cool but at least make up something that we might believe you are seriously thinking

He is @ Best Mike Dunleavy Jr. @ worst Dan Dickau. He put up numbers as the #1 option on a dominant team in a sorry league. He isnt going to do squat in the NBA............... Have I ever been wrong about a prospect?

While you all were riding Dirk, Steve Nash and Pau Gasol's nuts have any of you noticed that 2 out of 3 are getting scrubbed in the playoffs and the one that isnt has never won anything and wont this year either. I am going to say this only once Phil Jackson is an above average coach, the Lakers turning it around is proof, granted he isnt great because if he was the Lakers wouldnt be a 7 or 8 seed, but I alqways thought Phil Jackson was a shcmuck that lucked up and coached the best team. Anyway these three year after year prove they arent top 10 players. BHD

I agree that Tyrus Thomas and Aldridge are both going to be great, I think their the next Elton Brand and Chris Webber respectively. But we have to consider M.Williams and Josh Smith we cant keep drafting forwards. If we move M.Williams to SG then I would definitely say draft either but we need stop getting hybrid PF/C , PF/SF, PG/SG type players. Oh and I agree 100% we should draft Saer Sene. He will be a dominant player in a few years.

We will undoubtedly have Pick #1 - 5 we need to trade it and Harrington for future considerations. Move down to pick #13 - 15 and pick up Patrick O'Bryant I havent been wrong yet I have called out every fraud player and picked every good player, go back and read my post. I am telling you Adam Morrison and J.J. Reddick are garbage, neither will do anything more than score 15PPG @ best. Tyrus Thomas and Aldridge are going to be solid players but we dont need anymore 6'9 - 6'10" players.

The problem is Zaza is a joke defensively and JO would improve our presence but I fear still need a legit defensive center and Indiana would want alot more than Marvin/Al in return for JO. If we got JO then drafted Patrick O'Bryant then I could go for it.

You know ball better than 99% of the people I encounter but you come up with some absurd trade scenarios.......actually now that I think about it,its not a bad idea but I wouldnt give up Marvin & Al for Jermaine Oneal, Yes Oneal is hot fiya and him and J.Smith would be an unstopple comination but he isnt going to get us over the hump and we will be craying foul in 4 years when Marvin is dropping 30PPG.

In a few years Josh Smith will be what Elton Brand is now, or possibly catch up with some other HS phenoms like KG, or Lebron. He has the physical potential, and definitely has the work ethic, do you see how he went from no inside game to chucking up 3s. His potentila is boundless. PS. We all need to accept that AL has to go. But for what, a PG?

I didnt see anything special and most of the garbage I did see wouldnt go down in the NBA.

I said 2 first rounder and Diaw was to much to give up. I said Diaw was probably one of the 3 or 4 best European players. But then again I'm just a racist.

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Al-Jazeera has been a really positive thing, it has given much of the middle East, especially culturally and economically isolated parts of the middle east exposure to the rest of the world. It has had journalistic differences with many in the west, but the truth is it is a very progressive network. Nique will just give the Middle East exposure to the NBA and provide a cultural exchange of sorts.

I'm not a fan of Nene right now, yes he has potential, but thats the problem we have tooo much potential and not enough ready to shine players. I personally think we should go after one of Philly's players but not A.I. , Dalambert. He would provide us an immediate interior presence on defense.

Last year when you all were riding Boguts Nuts I said Chris Paul was and would prove to be the best player in the draft. Did anybody listen. No. They rambled on about Boguts potential. No Paul has Oklahoma City in the playoffs and Milwakee is stuck with a slow no defense playing center.

Just kidding. I dont really see the Hawks going after A.I. but Billy Knight did say that he would only persue a point gaurd if he was a superstar, hint hint. A.I.. But the Hawks would have to give up Al and pick #1 -4 to get it done. It would make the team an instant playoff contender, but not a champion. What do you think?

I have the same concern I think Utah would want half our roster to get Kirelinko.

I wouldnt compare him to Wade or Bosh at least not yet, but he has a big upside, I am really impressed with his Defnse.

Just kidding. Guess chilz or oe of the admins locked up the old thread. So lets talk about something that has to do with Basketball. What do you all think about getting Kirelinko, I am really impressed with his defense but I think Utah will want half our roster for him.

Quote: I don't know about the "white institutions" label for state schools, etc. that are intended to be serving the entire state population and who admit a cross-section of students but I agree that AA is in place to guarantee more diversity in schools and that schools use athletes of all races for maximum profit for the Universities. If they are were not built to be all white institutions, then why did black people have to sue to attend them. And even for 20 years after that blacks were BLATANTLY discriminted against. Example in 1975 all the black students left U.Florida because O'Connell said he didnt want blacks there. Quote: I cannot figure out how you reach this conclusion. First, how did you decide that "only a small percentage of the applicants at Michigan are white"? That is very hard for me to believe. Moreover, I don't understand how you conclude that AA doesn't affect one single white person in a negative way. It seems obvious that any white person that would have been admitted but for the use of AA was affected negatively. In the University of Michigan's Law School case, one expert for the University testified that the law school would be 4% minority if AA was not used but with AA 14.5% of the student body would be minorities. That means that students in the ethnic majority received 10.5% fewer seats in the law school class than they would have received without use of race as a factor. Using the same admission standard for applicants of all races would have resulted in the continued admission of minorities, but at a lower %. First of all it should be obvious that I mistyped. Blacks did not apply to Michigan at a very high rate. And that 10.5% that your talking about is less than 40 people all of whom were obivously borderline anyway. As for your minorities statement it is misleading White Hispanics benefit from AA by claiming to be a minoirity. Look at the numbers closer before you start making these statements. But lets focus on the injustices visited upon the white man, he has been nothing but a saint, suffering @ the hands of Communist, Arabs, Ni**ers, Mexicans, and all forms of Chink, Its not possible that there is racism in the society that cause difficulties in multiple areas. THE WHITE MAN IS SUFERING AND WE HAVE TO STOP IT! Quote: I've never characterized your background or used the N word in my life. Dont worry you say it in other ways, like implying that someone you never met and dont know anything about got into an Ivy league school through AA, not because he is grossly competent and qaulified. Reason he couldnt possibly have achieved anything on his own, ............ He's a BIG DUMB NI**ER! Quote: I agree that making schools more representative of the general population (by AA or any means) will dilute the number of students going to historically black colleges. I'm not sure I see this as quite the bad thing you do Oh really you dont want us Ni**ers stealing your spots @ YOUR UNIVERSITIES. And dont want Ni**ers going to there own schools. HBCUs ( historically Black Colleges and Universitiesdont need AA to enroll blacks so maybe that is the best solution so that AA will stop ruining your life.......Or Maybe Ni**ers should stick to domestic & field work just like in the good ole days. The white man has suffered too much in this country and been to good to us Ni**ers right?.........And how do we show our appreciation we get uppity, go around having money when a good whiteman doesnt, getting educations when those schools are for white folks that earned it, and even worse using their wide noses to breathe up all the whiteman's air .

Quote: Rasheed hasn't had any more success or gotten any further in the post season than Dirk. Who has a championship ring Sheed or Dirk, who has been to the finals sheed or Dirk? Quote: I know this blackhawkdown caricature you've built depends on internet anonymity to voice its opinions. Why should I have to give away personal info about who I am just to people I dont know just to prove a point. Hell I dont even log in through my own IP address.

Yes the black-white test gap exist,.....yada yada, ni**ers are stupid, yet blacks @ white institutions have similar GPAs as their white counterparts. .......Ever consider that white benefit from AA.....98% Blacks used to attend HBCUs not only 49% do.......What you mean black people dont have to go to white colleges? No......You mean they could go to Howard, Meharry or Charles Drew instead of Emory or USC.....No couldnt possibly be. Oh and by the way in that U.Mich case what you dont realize is that only a small percntage of the applicants @ Michigan are white, any whites that didnt get, all 10 of them, in were borderline anyway. AA doesnt effect one white single person in a negative way, it only forces institutions that would not let a single black person in to let in a handful. But this doesnt help blacks because every black student that goes to a white institution is tution money leaving a historicaly black college or university. Every athlete that wins a national championship for Florida or Texas is taking one from Grambling or South Carolina State. So whine all you want but at the end of the day the fact that their white institutions use blacks so that they can have more diverse views in liberal arts studies, give white students exposure to different cultures & religions, and gaurantee that their football and basketball recruits wont be scared to that they are walking into a Klan rally. But then again I'm just a dumb black gorilla that got by in life due to AA and lowered admissions standards. Yesterday I walked into a bank and they said " Hey here's a bag of money...sorry that we colonized your homeland, benefited from a system of racial oppression and at one point raped 40% of all black females". You know Ni**ers are out of hand, the poor white man has to work 10 times as hard everyday just to get by.

Quote: Dirk is a good rebounder... Not a great one. When you're a 7 PF playing 36MPG you should have to be averaging 10RPG to be considered a great rebounder. They've been better because they're a more defensive team than they were. Dirk doesn't really offer much more than shooting ability. You have guys like Brand that CAN average 25/10 while blocking shots and playing great defense. No doubt in my mind Brand has had a better year. I would take the following players over Dirk: LeBron James Kobe Bryant Kevin Garnett Tim Duncan Amare Stoudmire Paul Pierce Allen Iverson Tracy McGrady Elton Brand Dwayne Wade I think Dirk does fit in the 10-15 range... But not much better than that. Co-signing

Quote: But he also has never carried a team. He's a #2 guy No Micheal Finley wasnt the teams leading scorer and primary option for most of Dirk's career.......Dirk #2 option to Finley.....Sheed #2 Option to Scottie Pippen, Steve Smith......resutl Sheed is a loser, Dirk is a hero Quote: He has also hurt his team on many occasions with his childish behaviour. Case in point, his current Pistons team that is trying to get the best record in the league. He just got himself suspended for too many tech's this season. Sheed wins a championship and leads his team to the best record in the league......A Cancer Dirk never wins in the playoffs but leads his to to its best record ever one season........The best player in the league!

Quote: Sheed had the potential to be a MVP caliber player, but he never quite applied himself. Sheed wins a ring, goes to 3 finals and a conference final.....underachiever Dirk goes to one conference final.......A great leader