yungsta

9 hours ago, RandomFan said:

 

To be honest this is an accurate representation of the 2010 playoffs.

I have always been a pro tank kind of person but no way I am supporting that pathway now after seeing our drafting for the past few years. We would just keep drafting the oldest most "nba ready" or trade away our picks for win now players in order to try to get ourselves out of the lottery and be right back on the treadmill.

If "Bud Ball" means getting swept again then Im glad he doesn't fit that mold.

On 5/28/2016 at 1:56 PM, Hawkmoor said:

Cleveland, Golden State, San Antonio, etc.  Somehow, they ADD to their already talented rosters, while the Hawks.........lmao

Cause those teams know how to make strategic trades and draft well. All we know how to do is draft bust, clear cap space, and make trades for 2nd round picks and backups

The fact that we have been a middle of the road playoff team for almost a decade and are still facing the same problems that we have had in 2008, I don't think we are overreacting at all.  

Lol that trash package isn't getting Hayward no matter what connection we have with Utah. Those are the kind of trades that gets people fired.

7 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Looking for starting job, major minutes and another long  term contract  in the  summer.

Not chasing championship  but rather another contract- he made a business  decision.

Not sure why he wasnt promised major mins here. We dont have any starting caliber SGs or SFs.

We cant sign both unless we start dumping people for nothing.

Al has a cap hold of 18 million which leaves us with exactly $10.3 million in cap space and that doesnt even include resigning Baze. 

7 minutes ago, yungsta said:

When you look at the bench, does he have much of a choice?

LOL of course as soon as I say this the bench brings us back into the game.

3 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said:

Baze and Kyle with these careless turnovers. Bud is so commited to these two its ridiculous

When you look at the bench, does he have much of a choice?

6,8,

24 years old

averages close to 18ppg per game with 4 assist  while shooting 40% from 3

and is locked into a long term contract at only 12 mil per.

He would of been a steal if we could of gotten him. No way the bucks were going to let him go for teague.

the only thing rudy gay will do is eat up possessions with shooting terrible efficiency and low bbiq. 

2 minutes ago, TheFuzz said:

I wish he gave us more too, but I'm thinking this is what he is at this point. He's more Draymond Green than Karl Malone. Wish he could board better, but as a two-way role-playing C he's pretty good.

Watching AL get beasted by a no - knee having  Amare last night,  I say AL is more of a glorified Andrea Bargnani. 

12 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said:

Slow starts every game. There is no excuse for constantly falling behind in every single game. Bud its time to adjust the starting lineup. If there is nothing you can do do improve the lineup from within then its time to make a move. Doing nothing signals that you are OK with how the team constantly sleepwalks night in and out. Starters are starters because they are supposed to be the best group to get the team off to a good start not dig you in to a hole that the bench has to climb out of.

I wish I would  have this information, because I can't seem to find it again but analytics show that the hawks starting line up has a negative net rating. 

The fact that the raptors are 7th in overall rebounding  (top 5 in defensive rebounding) while we are at the bottom in every rebounding category , I question if their frontcourt is better than ours too.

Greg Monroe sucks, hes like AL Jefferson. He will put up some attractive box score numbers but doesnt help teams win more games. Any team that are heavy in the  analytics will stay far away from him.  

Statistically, the bucks were a much better team when Zaza was the starting center because he did all the little things that Monroe doesnt do such as setting effective screens or boxing out. http://www.sbnation.com/2015/12/2/9837458/zaza-pachulia-mavericks-bucks-breakdown-stats

Do you have any suggestions? There arent any moves we can make they can put us on the CLE/SAS/GSW tier.

We dont have the assets or the talent to make the kind of  moves cleveland made last year that would propel us to elite status. The Horford for Greg Monroe or Teague for Ariza type trades people are suggesting are lateral moves at best.

Nothing short of us getting 2 top 10 players in return would give us any shot against the top tier teams.

9 minutes ago, ATLHawks3 said:

I'd still resign him. And look, I understand how you think this parallels the Joe situation but the key difference between both is that Al's team is much closer to the title than Joe's. And even if we didn't resign Joe that offseason, we probably would've been able to make the playoffs considering how weak the east was at that time.  

I dont think this team is that much closer to a title than the joe johnson hawks. Our performance in the playoffs was pretty joe johnson hawks esque. We struggled against mediocre 30 and  40 win teams and showed that we didnt belong on the ECF stage against elite competition. 

Our performance against the cavs mirrored  the joe johnson hawks whenever we faced a top tier team in the playoffs. Swept and blown out in embarrassing fashion.

Please kill all of the Al Horford  = Tim Duncan talks. I dont want to hear anymore comparisons at all.  Comparing the two is an embarrassment to the greatness of Tim Duncan.

40 year old Duncan  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prime Al Horford.

I doubt it. I think thabo will start and we will see alot of 2 PG line ups with Korver at SF. Bud has zero trust in THJ right now. He cant even get garbage time mins. Im surprised he hasnt been assigned to the D-League yet.

Way too much attention and enthusiasm for a mediocre starting SF. 

Chris Vivlamore: I expect Tiago Splitter deal to be announced today. Hawks gave up rights to international player and heavily protected future 2nd.

– via Twitter CVivlamoreAJC

Trade, Tiago Splitter, Atlanta Hawks,San Antonio Spurs

I saw 'heavily protected' and thought whaaat - a 1st - hahaha.

I was alittle worried about what we gave up but we basically got a starting caliber center making under 10 mil for free.

We actually used our cap flexibility to get an asset for once

the  SF market is drying up fast, Im fearing we are going to make a very short sighted trade for a SF. I cant imagine us relying on an aging/rehabbing thabo to be our full time starting SF.

Well that's the last time I get my hopes up about Johnson coming to the Hawks. I wonder if we've ever truly had an interest in him and vice versa. Still some good options out there so hopefully we get someone in here soon. At this point I'm worried about our shooting off the bench and our wing defense off the bench. 

i think we did but staying in the same city and playing in the same building  sounds more enticing than having to move across the country.

lmao people were arguing over this scrub for 7 pages and we dont even get him.