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Not to be nit picky, but I blame Ferry far more than LD for the Giannis debacle.
Ferry was the one that kept LD around long enough to let him soak up all of our draft intel and allowed him to go search & secure another coaching job all right before the draft when it was clear he wasn't going to return as the coach next year.
Ferry had full control of the situation. LD was just trying to secure another job.
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21 minutes ago, NBASupes said:
This is sadly what it is. To me, we have the pieces, we just don't have the fit. It's like we tried to fix this team which did raise our floor only to lower our ceiling. It's basically like we are Minnesota East.
The elephant in the room is Trae.
He drastically reduces the flexibility of what we can do with our roster with his piss poor defense. We sacrificed our elite shooting to give us a chance to not be the worst defensive team in the league.
I would love to be proven wrong but I'm struggling to figure what players we can realistically get that can fix our shooting while maintaining our middle of the road defense.
Maybe a coaching change can miraculously fix our offense.
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Don't get the Ben Simmons fit at all.
We already have two guards who will dominate the ball for 30 mins-40 mins a game. We have enough playmaking. We should focus on getting playfinishers and shooters who can hold up defensively.
At the end of the day, this is an offensive oriented league. We can't afford to have multiple non-shooters on the floor. Our offensive will crater come playoff time.
I think we should focus on getting a SF/PF that can back up hunter, can make open shots and fit in our defensive switching scheme in the mold of a Jae Crowder/Pj Tucker.
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Just now, NBASupes said:
His salary actually went up today because of the new cap.
Sorry, Its not the salary that I'm worried about. I wanted to point out that Trae can opt out in that 26/27 season. So we can potentially enter that season without Trae and without a 1st round pick.
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6 minutes ago, NBASupes said:
Costly! I would have preferred a pick swap in 2024.
2027 unprotected pick could be a disaster for us if this doesn't work out. The spurs knew exactly what they were doing.
Edit: Forgot to note in 2027 offseason its highlighted in blue because Trae has a player option that he can opt out of.
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The more I look into Dejounte Murray, the more I'm not liking the fit with Trae especially for the Spurs' asking price. The desire for Murray seems more like a desperation move to get something done than a move that can take this team to a championship caliber level.
6'4 180, not a great shooter with a below average TS%, and not a true SG.
These are the concerns that I have for Murray.
- How much value will he bring to the team over someone like Delon Wright when 80% of the time, the ball will be in Trae's hands?
- Can he actually guard the big guards of the east (Harden, Jaylen Brown, Jimmy Butler, Demar Derozan, Kris MIddleton etc..) in a full 7 games series?
- Both Murray and Trae will need to change their games drastically for the offensive fit to work. Are you willing to take a huge bet that will happen?
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1 hour ago, Peoriabird said:
Who is overvaluing Julius Randle besides 1 person on this message board. I just mearly stated that he is probably more useful than Gallo because he rebounds and passes. I think @sturt sees him very similar to me. So who are these so called fan(s)?
I disagree that Randle would add more value than Gallo on a Trae Young led team. Gallo is a 6'10 high volume 3 point shooter that shoots close to 40% and takes little off the table of better offensive options and gives all the space in the world to allow Trae Young to do his thing.
Julius Randle is the complete opposite.
Randle fits the mold of a Josh Smith. He is a high usage high volume bad shot taker with questionable decision making who dominates the ball and makes close to $30M over the next 4 years. He pads his assist numbers like Josh Smith by taking the ball out of the guard's hand and monopolizing the offense with his Superstar like usage and Kevin Durant/Luka Doncic Like Isolation Frequencies with league worst efficiencies.
I view him as a net negative player overall and not a good fit at all.
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The Julius Randle obsession is strange to me.
Fans overate high volume low value-added shot creation waaaaayyy to much. Just because a player has high ppg doesn't mean he is a good player.
I put Julius Randle value add in the same tier as hawksquawk's favorites Rudy Gay, Monta Ellis and Al Jefferson.
John Collins > Julius Randle
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Julius Randle is undersized, isn't a great shooter or defender. Not a good fit with Trae.
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Not surprising. Remember, the hawks had long stretches of being a straight dumpster fire and we struggled to achieve a winning record until the conclusion of the season.
That matters when it comes to all nba voting.
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4 minutes ago, NBASupes said:From the Suns, there is internal strife I was going to talk about in the around the league. There are players and coaches who want to keep him but management is not as high on him especially for the max.
I am told they would like to get a center that's much cheaper like Wendell Carter Jr or Mo Bamba. But CP3 and Bridges want Ayton back. That's a team that is in flux.
Atlanta has a good framework deal, it's the willingness to take on Shamet and Payne and give good prospects up is why Charlotte is ahead. They want him just as bad as Atlanta, they just got more to offer with the willingness to take on bad contracts. Something Travis isn't willing to do.
The Hawks don't have cap space but you are right, generally these SnTs are not deals where top 50-60 players get traded. Usually its non top 100 role players at best and draft picks. Bogi types.
It take something to get something in this league.
Gobert is a lot better than you are making him out to be.
Hes isn't worth double of what Capela is making + Our only decent wing defender + a pick. That is all
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No interest in giving up that much so we can have the opportunity to pay Gobert 40m per year in his 30's over the next several years only to see him blow layups.
In this era of 5 out offense. No rim protector that is limited offensive is worth $40m PERIOD. A 3 point shooting big being paid pennies can completely neutralize him especially with the amount of defensive holes we already have on the team.
Defense is a complete 5 man game and if you think we can plug Gobert in any line-up and he can somehow cover all of our massive defensive gaps haven't been watching all these playoff games closely. It takes a village to even cover 1 defensive liability on the court in a high level 7 game series.
Watching almost every playoff game, IMO this is what should be prioritized in this order.
1.) Secondary shot creator
2.) Coaching Upgrade
3.) Wing defenders that can also hit outside shots
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I rarely agree with Diesel takes but give me Capela making $20m per year over the next few seasons than dealing with this from someone making double. Btw this was all from one game. Atleast Ayton has the skillset to be a 2nd or 3rd option on offense. Gobert has no hope of even being an option.
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I'm not a fan of Gobert because hes being paid $40m per year until 2026 to be an offensive liability.
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2 hours ago, NBASupes said:I really hope Oladipo changes his mind. I know Atlanta would be willing to pay him.
Personally, I hope the hawks don't go after him. I'm done dealing with injury prone players. We have enough of them.
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2 minutes ago, hawkman said:
If the Hawks lose against Charlotte in the play in game, Nate is gone.
I would agree with you if we didn't just give him a 4 year extension in the beginning of the year.
As depressing as it sounds, I think we are stuck with him for at least another season.
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3 hours ago, capstone21 said:
Ferry did a great job of putting a team together ... He acquired the right chemistry guys to help this team reach 60 wins.
I was very pessimistic about the 60 win team because we had 2 months of elite play then finished the season looking extremely mediocre once teams started adjusting to us.
They looked very underwhelming in the playoffs against teams that should have been handled with ease before getting completely embarrassed by the cavs.
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11 hours ago, NBASupes said:
I want to fire Danny Ferry right now.
I never like Ferry at all. He was a mediocre GM with a huge ego. I know a lot of people on here liked him but hawks fan expectations for a GM were so low due to the ASG regime.
His "rebuild" and accumulate assets while competing game plan was a complete flop. Whoever thinks a team can do that all at once is delusion. He used a once in a generation trade (Harden trade) to justify his plan.
All he did was reduce our payroll and let veterans build up their market value which put us in a position where we had to overpay to keep them.
His free agency flops and draft flops led us to more wasted years of mediocrity even after his departure.
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9 hours ago, Threezus said:
The fact we had 2 picks that could have easily been packaged to move up for him is what pisses me off the most. If you have a guy who you are literally locked in on and want more than any player in the draft. Because you feel that highly on him that he could be a star then you go fricken get him. I have always hated sitting on your ass and not going for your player and hoping he falls to you.
Ferry tried to trade the two picks for Giannis after the bucks selected him. The bucks declined.
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4 hours ago, NBASupes said:
Miami has another All Star SG in mind.
Lol this guessing game is killing me. I say its jrue holiday
https://heatnation.com/rumors/miami-heat-looking-add-player-who-make-really-dangerous/
technically he was an all star in 2013 and he plays SG
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11 minutes ago, GameTime said:
I still stand by this statement.
you are not exaggerating at all. TBH
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35 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:
BRUTAL. I think we should just concede back-to-back games going forward.
Yea that is horrendous but what is funny is that when you take a 2nd look at who we played. Besides the bulls, any team in the league would have difficulty winning against those teams on the 2nd half of back to back especially ON THE ROAD.
Our schedule has been comically brutal.
Its like whoever made our schedule wanted to make sure the momentum, confidence, and spirit we had from the end of last season was crushed immediately with no hope of recovering.
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5 hours ago, NBASupes said:
This was my main man the entire topic today and he confirmed again the Hawks want two additional 1st rounders which we got one yesterday. The OKC deal might be draft night or any day.
OKC deal? So we are working on a trade that involves taking on additional salary for the OKC's pick (21st)? So we are planning on having 4 first rounders in the draft???
Are we locked in on a certain prospect and using the extra picks to potentially move up to ensure we can get him?
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Maybe there is a financial incentive for the hawks to let him leave on his own than to outright fire him.
At this point, I wouldn't put it pass Ressler if it would save him a couple of bucks.