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  2. Official Game Thread: Hawks at Bulls

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    Posted · Edited by terrell

    18 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

    Guilty by association, perhaps.  Although I would swear you have referenced keeping Murray next year, which, is implying trading Trae since you clearly state we can't keep both.  But whatever.

    I agree that one likely needs to go due to the defense.  My only question is whether a legit defensive center to protect the paint would mitigate some of the disaster that is a Trae/DJ backcourt.  I like DJ a lot.  I just believe Trae is the better PG and not just by a little.  

     

    Well I hope hes the better PG based on their salaries..

    Its not about who the better pg is though IMO,  its who makes the Team better,  and what can we get in return..

    Ill leave that up to LF and QS..

     

     

  3. Official Game Thread: Hawks at Bulls

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    Posted · Edited by terrell

    49 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

    It's hard to say that. JJ was playing much better with Trae in January. Capela been better of late but he was terrible with anyone till ASB. Bruno been better with Murray.

    Yeah honestly I think it has alot more to do with OO and Bey being out than Trae being out...

    We all know how good Trae is at passing and shot making, but he needs to be more mobile and less ball dominant IMO.. 

     

     

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  4. Official Game Thread: Hawks at Bulls

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    Posted · Edited by terrell

    24 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

    I think the numbers support the idea that there's been more passing without Trae, but not the idea that guys are playing better without Trae. Clint played his best ball of the season, statistically anyway, in November December and then fell off a cliff in Jan/Feb before rebounding in March. 

    Bogi has been the exact same all year, posting nearly identical numbers every month.  He had a slight dip in December and January but otherwise has been Mr. Reliable.  His assist number is the only thing that has gone up without Trae, which is why I said the numbers support the idea that there's more passing.  The guys are sharing the load more. 

    Vit has been a revelation but he didn't play with Trae.

    Hunter, statistically, has been worse with Murray than with Trae, but not by a lot.  He was sucking early in the year and then came on in February and March.    

    My point is not that the hawks aren't playing well, it's that this idea that you and others try to perpetuate after every win that the team is better off without Trae is nonsense.  Guys are playing better late in the season.  Are they playing better because Trae isn't out there?  Not sure there's anything to suggest that other than a few fans bias. 

    Is Murray playing better than Trae, iyo?    

    I like watching them play without him, but I NEVER said we were better off without Trae. I just said yesterday we gonna need his offense in the playin/playoffs. smh

    But longterm, Ive always been it's either He or Murray.. Not both.. They're both pg's and the D is a disaster. 

  5. Official Game Thread: Hawks at Bulls

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    Posted · Edited by terrell

    2 hours ago, REHawksFan said:

    Exactly. But don't tell some folks this. All that matters is they are winning without Trae so Trae must be the issue. Nevermind that the winning is more a product of Others playing better (Vit,  Dre, Bogi, Clint, and Bruno specifically) than Murray playing better than Trae. 

    The winning just fits the general opinion of Trae by some so its a convenient talking point.  Murray being the lead guy on the team is not a recipe for success.  

    Others are playing better without Trae though.. I havent seen the Hawks move the ball like this since Bud left...

    Hope it continues when he comes back, because if it doesnt....................................... lol

     

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  7. Official Game Thread: Hawks at Bulls

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    14 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

    We are winning games. I guess Murray isn't afforded the same excuses Trae is. 

    It is very apparent that the Hawks really struggle to win games without Trae Young...........

    OO and Bey for that matter..

     

     

     

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    5 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

    His inefficiency, poor handles, and avg passing is why it's insane fir certain folks to claim DJ is the better option of the 2. Absolutely freaking insane. 

    He can be a really good scorer and he's capable as a ball handler,  but being capable is not the same as being elite. Trae is elite. 

    Inefficiency?

    He's shooting 46% FG

    36% from 3.. 

     

     

  12. Official Game Thread: Hawks at Bulls

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    2 minutes ago, aali34 said:

    That may be true, and he's still has a ways to go, but I'm not talking about DJ though.

    Trae is the best player and we go where he takes us. Another thing he does that I don't like is jogging on offense when he's not bringing the ball up when he should be running and putting pressure on the defense.

    Hes disinterested most of the time when he doesnt have the ball

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  18. Official Game Thread: Hawks at Bulls

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    Posted · Edited by terrell

    Defense is so much better without Trae, Bey, and OO..

    We gonna need Trae offensively if we make the Playoffs, but being without Bey and OO will help us imo....

     Bey hustles, but Vit gives us way better ball handler and passing. Hell hes even shooting better than Bey right now.. lol

    And Bruno just looks better than OO in this scheme

     

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