terrell

Only ONE turnover for Murray again on 13-20 shooting.

PLease don't move this man back to SG

Can we just have Team 1 and Team 2? lol

Bruno and Vit still playing well..

Since we're pretty much locked in a playin spot, we might as well go for the 9 seed and get a home game...

Even though that means more $ for Ressler.. 

Bruno and 1..

2 hours ago, Hawkmoor said:

 I'm gonna say this one time and highlight it:  The Hawks have proven that without Trae, the offense is WORST.  They NEED Trae Young.  Everyone knows I'm a big Trae Young detractor but the Hawks themselves have proven that they need him and I AGREE.  If anything, Trae being out has proven to ME how badly they do need him on offense.

Why are some of yall making this be "Trae bashing"?  If anything positive is said about Hunter or another player because Trae is out, the narrative is put out that its "Trae Bashing".  The pitchforks come out. The real issue is the Hawks are being able to get something positive out of something negative with Trae being out.  It forced the Hawks coaching staff and players to expand and come up with alternatives on offense. When Trae comes back, thats a positive.  If the coaching staff goes back to a backcourt heavy offense without using their bigs at forward, thats a coaching problem. 

The help that folks want him to have can come from INSIDE the current roster. It doesn't always have to come from a trade or free agent signing.  Another POSITIVE that has come out of this is the defense has improved.  Thats not Trae bashing, its just what it is.  The Hawks have learned that they CAN play defense.  How that works out when Young comes back remains to be seen.  Maybe they sit him in certain situations and go offense for defense,  defense for offense, etc.  It can be worked out.  Everything that is happening is a net positive.  Trae remains the best option on offense,  the Hawks have discovered that Hunter can help D.J. and Johnson, and they learned how to play lock down defense as a cohesive unit.

 

Is Dre even looking at Trae there? 

13 hours ago, Hawkmoor said:

I remember the Miami playoff series in which Hunter carried the Hawks when the Heat shut down Trae.  They game planned for Trae, he shot poorly and Hunter stepped up.  Hunter's good play over the last month or so isn't the first time he has showcased what he can do.  They NEED Trae but they also need MORE than Trae.  One player can't do it.

 

 

Dre also mentioned after this game how getting more quality touches gets him in a rhythm..... That's the case right now...

4 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Neither have to go.

The issue with this team has always been the frontcourt.

Nah man Trae Murray duo is a trainwreck defensively..

32 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

The most important part is the center. The year we went to the ECF, we were winning with Tony Snell and Solo as wings. 

Capela was in the top 10 of all advanced metrics that year for us. 

Trae wasn't making Max $ either.. Our bench was top notch on that run...

1 hour ago, Atlantaholic said:

The issue may not be whether or not Murray is as good as Trae (he isn't), but if the additional value we get back from a Trae trade makes it worth trading him over Murray. If Murray's market doesn't heat up from what it was at the deadline (Reaves seemed like the apex return) then it could make sense to trade Trae if we can get a legit All-Star player back.

 

 

 

This...... Everyone knows Trae is more talented offensively than Murray.. Its all about what will make the TEAM better....

25 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Funny that all these folks tryna make a case for trading Trae because 'we don't need him' (I guess), won't do the same for JJ.  Weird.  Why not trade JJ now?  Wouldn't he be more valuable since Trae's trash, of course. 

Hawks are 7-13 without JJ  btw.

5 minutes ago, hawkman said:

Fixed. Just say that. You've been hinting at it nonstop every time the Hawks win a game without Trae. Just let it out man. 

 

And no, I'd still much rather keep Trae. My memory isn't that short. I love DJ but he isn't on Trae Young's level. The Hawks saw enough from Trae in year two to at least attempt to build a team around him. Pop didn't even consider doing the same with DJ, even after his All Star season. Again, that's not a knock on DJ, but there's no question who I'd build a team around.

I don't hint.. I say what I want to say.. 

Again, its either or for me.. He OR Murray

Also Depends on the return

18 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Funny that all these folks tryna make a case for trading Trae because 'we don't need him' (I guess), won't do the same for JJ.  Weird.  Why not trade JJ now?  Wouldn't he be more valuable since Trae's trash, of course. 

Who's trying to trade Trae besides that one dude who doesn't come around much?(big E train) 

I said ONE has to go IMO.. He or Murray..

22 minutes ago, AHF said:

Murray is also a detriment at SG.  Combine this with the changes in how the league is calling the call and a healthy dose of weaker opponents and it is a nice recipe for improved defense relative to our numbers earlier in the season.  

This was a really good win once the frontcourt asserted themselves in the 2Q.  A big part of that was the defense even if this wasn't a standout game in terms of points allowed.

Because Murray is a 1..

4 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Trae shouldn't be traded unless it's for Devin Booker. 

Murray can't do this and you need this in the playoffs

 

 

Now do defense..

19 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

I really hope Murray goes to a team he can help and still be one of the main guys 

I hope he stays.. Our role players wont be happy if he's moved.. 

I honestly believe they'd rather keep him over Trae..

2 hours ago, bleachkit said:

Look at DJ's numbers since Trae has been out. They are honestly comparable to Trae's. 

Just like I said a while back.. He can put up similar numbers with Trae usage...

3 hours ago, TheBigETrain said:

And that's the reason Trae should be traded. It is not who is the better player. It is which player makes the team better. And I think that is DJM.

Murray is clearly the leader of the team... And the players love him..

Just listen when the guys talk about him

I never here them talk this way about Trae..

6 hours ago, Peoriabird said:

Much better on the defensive end

Yeah Trae and Bey both are a detriment defensively..

15 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

We are setting records! Lol

 

 

Dre loves Murray that's for sure...

I've heard 3 or 4 "that's my guy" from him on Murray lately...

20 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Vit and Bruno been hard workers for years. Maybe @JayBirdHawk right when she says Nate wasn't developing shit

They were ruining the offense. I'll rather iso Trae over the Trae/Murray show

Yeah one for sure has to go..

Id dangle either one if it were me just to see what we could get.. lol

9 minutes ago, Threezus said:

I don't know wtf finally clicked with Hunter but MY GOD DO I LOVE IT.   This is the player we wanted when we drafted him.  It took him a long time to get here but he is a completely different player now.   Quinn Snyder finally got to him and it's awesome to see.

Coming off the bench helped..

He wasn't just standing around watching Trae and Murray take turns..

We probably lose this game with both Trae and Murray playing..

No way we come back from 30 with our TINY backcourt IMO

We won this game with DEFENSE and VIt playing out of his mind...

6 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

What do you expect when posters are blinded by their bias.  They still think Bey can shoot based off of 25 games.

Bey is as good as gone with Vit emergence.. lol

I'll miss his hustle, but not his Defense...

5 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

LOL!  Trae takes and hits that shot and the crowd goes wild.  But since Dre hit it, it was a mistake.  You guys don't ever quit!  LOL!

EVERY STARTER in double figures + Bruno..

Excellent TEAM win.. C's are stunned.. lol

BEST reg season win in YEARS IMO..

VS the BEST team in the league May I add

Hawks could've laid down early.. But Nope..

DEFENSE!!!!

DEFENSE!!!

DEFENSE!!!