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Josh Childress 6-8 SF from Stanford 8.7 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 1.7 apg in 28.1 minutes Al Harrington 6-9 SF from St. Patrick's (HS) 18.6 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 3.0 apg in 37.1 minutes Incoming Nene Hilario 6-11 PF from Brazil (Foreign) 0.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 2.0 minutes Darko Milicic 7-0 C from Serbia-Montenegro (Foreign) 1.5 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 0.4 apg in 5.7 minutes Carlos Arroyo 6-2 PG from Florida International 3.4 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 3.1 apg in 12.3 minutes Change in team outlook: -22.4 ppg, -9.7 rpg, and -1.2 apg. Denver Trade Breakdown Outgoing Nene Hilario 6-11 PF from Brazil (Foreign) 0.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 2.0 minutes Incoming Josh Childress 6-8 SF from Stanford 8.7 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 1.7 apg in 28.1 minutes Change in team outlook: +8.7 ppg, +5.2 rpg, and +1.7 apg. Detroit Trade Breakdown Outgoing Darko Milicic 7-0 C from Serbia-Montenegro (Foreign) 1.5 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 0.4 apg in 5.7 minutes Carlos Arroyo 6-2 PG from Florida International 3.4 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 3.1 apg in 12.3 minutes Incoming Kelvin Cato 6-11 C from Iowa State 3.8 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.1 apg in 13.0 minutes Change in team outlook: -1.1 ppg, +0.1 rpg, and -3.4 apg. Orlando Trade Breakdown Outgoing Kelvin Cato 6-11 C from Iowa State 3.8 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.1 apg in 13.0 minutes Incoming Al Harrington 6-9 SF from St. Patrick's (HS) 18.6 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 3.0 apg in 37.1 minutes Change in team outlook: +14.8 ppg, +4.4 rpg, and +2.9 apg. Successful Scenario Due to Denver, Detroit, and Orlando being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Denver, Detroit, and Orlando had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Atlanta Trade Breakdown Outgoing Al Harrington 6-9 SF from St. Patrick's (HS) 17.6 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 3.1 apg in 38.6 minutes Incoming Jarrett Jack 6-3 from Georgia Tech No games yet played in 2004/05 Channing Frye 6-11 from Arizona No games yet played in 2004/05 Change in team outlook: -17.6 ppg, -7.0 rpg, and -3.1 apg. Portland Trade Breakdown Outgoing Jarrett Jack 6-3 from Georgia Tech No games yet played in 2004/05 Darius Miles 6-9 SF from East St. Louis (HS) 12.8 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 2.0 apg in 27.0 minutes Theo Ratliff 6-10 C from Wyoming 4.8 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.5 apg in 27.5 minutes Incoming Al Harrington 6-9 SF from St. Patrick's (HS) 17.6 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 3.1 apg in 38.6 minutes Anfernee Hardaway 6-7 SG from Memphis 7.3 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 2.0 apg in 24.2 minutes Change in team outlook: +7.3 ppg, -0.7 rpg, and +2.6 apg. New York Trade Breakdown Outgoing Anfernee Hardaway 6-7 SG from Memphis 7.3 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 2.0 apg in 24.2 minutes Channing Frye 6-11 from Arizona No games yet played in 2004/05 Incoming Darius Miles 6-9 SF from East St. Louis (HS) 12.8 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 2.0 apg in 27.0 minutes Theo Ratliff 6-10 C from Wyoming 4.8 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.5 apg in 27.5 minutes Change in team outlook: +10.3 ppg, +7.7 rpg, and +0.5 apg. Successful Scenario Due to Portland and New York being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Portland and New York had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Trade ID Every trade made by fans is allocated a unique Trade ID which you can share with friends and fellow basketball fans to allow them to see your trade scenario. The Trade ID for this scenario is 2609725.

My condolences to the Collier family. A sad ending to a young mans life. The Collier family will be in my prayers.

Atlanta trades: PF Antoine Walker (20.2 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 3.3 apg in 40.2 minutes) Chris Crawford (No games yet played in 2004/05) SF Josh Childress (6.3 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 1.4 apg in 20.9 minutes) Atlanta receives: SF Ron Artest (24.6 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 3.1 apg in 41.6 minutes) PG Baron Davis (20.1 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 7.2 apg in 33.1 minutes) Change in team outlook: +18.2 ppg, -3.5 rpg, and +5.6 apg. Indiana trades: SF Jonathan Bender (8.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 13.5 minutes) SF Ron Artest (24.6 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 3.1 apg in 41.6 minutes) Indiana receives: PF Antoine Walker (20.2 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 3.3 apg in 40.2 minutes) Change in team outlook: -12.4 ppg, -0.6 rpg, and -0.3 apg. New Orleans trades: PG Baron Davis (20.1 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 7.2 apg in 33.1 minutes) New Orleans receives: Chris Crawford (No games yet played in 2004/05) SF Josh Childress (6.3 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 1.4 apg in 20.9 minutes) SF Jonathan Bender (8.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 13.5 minutes) Change in team outlook: -5.8 ppg, +4.1 rpg, and -5.3 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED Due to Indiana and New Orleans being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Indiana and New Orleans had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Didn't Chicago trade there number 1 to phonix so they could draft Deng?

That the Hawks were trying to trade for Matt Harpring of the Utah Jazz.

Sources said the Hawks plan to waive Doleac and if he clears waivers, the Knicks will move to re-sign him. The Nuggets, Jazz and Clippers, however, are reportedly interested in claiming Doleac.

http://www.nypost.com/sports/knicks/16319.htm

One max player to build around are for two are three players making around six to eight million a year and build through the draft.

Who will the the hawks leave unprotected? Will they leave Jason Terry unprotected and gain his seven million cap number. What could we do so Henderson and his eight million dollar cap number ends up with the Bobcats?

Atlanta trades: C Nazr Mohammed (6.5 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.4 apg in 18.1 minutes) PG Jason Terry (15.8 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 5.0 apg in 35.1 minutes) SF Stephen Jackson (13.4 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 2.5 apg in 34.0 minutes) PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (19.8 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.5 apg in 36.2 minutes) C Theo Ratliff (7.8 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.0 apg in 30.5 minutes) Atlanta receives: C Eddy Curry (12.8 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 0.8 apg in 27.3 minutes) SG Jamal Crawford (16.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 5.6 apg in 35.1 minutes) PF Antoine Walker (16.1 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 5.4 apg in 38.2 minutes) SF Rasheed Wallace (17.0 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 38.5 minutes) Change in team outlook: -0.5 ppg, -3.5 rpg, and +3.1 apg. Chicago trades: PF Antonio Davis (9.5 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 1.6 apg in 33.1 minutes) C Eddy Curry (12.8 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 0.8 apg in 27.3 minutes) SG Jamal Crawford (16.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 5.6 apg in 35.1 minutes) Chicago receives: C Nazr Mohammed (6.5 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.4 apg in 42 games) PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (19.8 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.5 apg in 42 games) Change in team outlook: -12.9 ppg, -4.5 rpg, and -5.1 apg. Dallas trades: PF Antoine Walker (16.1 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 5.4 apg in 38.2 minutes) Dallas receives: PF Antonio Davis (9.5 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 1.6 apg in 40 games) Change in team outlook: -6.6 ppg, -0.2 rpg, and -3.8 apg. Portland trades: SF Rasheed Wallace (17.0 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 38.5 minutes) Portland receives: PG Jason Terry (15.8 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 5.0 apg in 41 games) SF Stephen Jackson (13.4 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 2.5 apg in 40 games) C Theo Ratliff (7.8 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.0 apg in 42 games) Change in team outlook: +20.0 ppg, +8.2 rpg, and +5.8 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED

What type of salery cap budget do you think Billy Knight will have to work with next year?

I think that we lost our pick (8th) to the Bucks in the first Glen Robinson trade and we drafted Diaw with our Indiana pick for Tinsley. The Philly pick is in 2005 not 2004. We traded Robinson after the draft had taken place.

Burning down the Hawks By Chad Ford NBA Insider Send an Email to Chad Ford Tuesday, January 13 Updated: January 13 9:53 AM ET Wasn't it just a year ago that Hawks president Stan Kasten called the play of his lowly Hawks "unacceptable" and vowed to fix the team? Wasn't it a year ago that then-Hawks GM Pete Babcock admitted his offseason moves were "wrong across the board?" And one year ago didn't Kasten and Babcock begin exploring how to blow the team apart after it was apparent that the group they had put together just couldn't get along? The Hawks had and have a talented team on paper. But on the court, the pieces have never fit. "When you are assembling a puzzle and two pieces don't fit, because either they are bad guys, or they don't buy into what you are doing, or they don't work hard, then it's easier to identify," Babcock said Jan. 11, 2003. "In our situation, each individual player -- they're good guys. They're working hard. They're doing the extra things. They take the program seriously. But when you put the pieces together, it's like they don't have faith in each other. They don't quite believe in each other yet. "That's the job of this staff, to get them believe. If they can't, then you've got to reassemble the puzzle. You've got to change the pieces to get that mix that believes in one other, because this is a team sport." A year later, Jan. 12, 2004, it's like Groundhog Day. The 10-28 Hawks are awful. The seats are empty. Players slouch on the bench. The gloom is palpable. Tempers are short. Coach Terry Stotts paces the sidelines like a sweaty, caged tiger. Jason Terry wants a one-way ticket out. Theo Ratliff has been caught screaming at the coach. Nothing has changed. Nothing. Which makes you wonder, what the [censored] is going on in Atlanta? "Nothing," a Hawks source told Insider. "The team is a train wreck. Guys aren't playing hard. They're giving up. Terry [stotts] is doing everything he can to motivate them, but the guys act offended when he asks them to play hard. No one trusts each other. Everyone is on their own page. I can't imagine there's a team that's more screwed up. But there are no signs that changes are coming. Just talk, threats really. We're worn down. I know Terry [stotts] is under fire, but it's not really his fault. These same players have killed other coaches, and they'll kill the next guy too, if something else doesn't change." Corporate red tape Harsh words for harsh times. If the Hawks were a normal team, fans would be picketing the owner right now and demanding the GM be fired. But the Hawks aren't a normal team. They are mired in the corporate molasses of Time Warner. A sale has been pending for what seems like the last decade. The potential ownership groups seems to change weekly. The official sale to a conglomerate known as Atlanta Spirit LLC took place Sept. 12, but that group still hasn't gotten official approval from NBA owners. That could happen later this month, then again, with the way things are going in Atlanta, my Jan. 13 column in 2005 may begin with the same refrain: The Hawks stink. Why isn't anyone doing anything about it? Even when the sale does become final, who has faith in an ownership group that's not that much smaller than the Board of Directors for Time Warner? Atlanta Spirit is one-third owned by Boston businessman Steve Belkin; one-third owned by Washington businessmen Bruce Levenson, Ed Peskowitz and Todd Foreman; and one-third owned by five local men (Michael Gearon Jr., Rutherford Seydel, Michael Gearon Sr., Bud Seretean and Beau Turner -- Ted's youngest son). New owners, new team? How does that committee of nine get anything done? Officially, Belkin will have two votes and Gearon Jr., Seydel, Levenson and Peskowitz one apiece on ownership decisions. Great, we've reduced the number to five. Five heads to hopefully dismantle what has become the biggest train wreck in the NBA. The Clippers and Warriors have been bad for longer, but at least you can argue that they've made moves trying to get back on track. The Hawks keep swirling down the drain. No one knows exactly what will happen when David Stern hands the keys to Belkin & Co. Will they bring in their own GM? Their own coach? Will they be inclined to burn the team to the ground, like Kiki Vandeweghe did in Denver? Or will they be blinded by the talent on paper and try a quicker fix to get this team playing mediocre basketball faster, like Isiah Thomas did in New York? GMs around the league are waiting on the answers with bated breath. Why? Because the Hawks do have talented individuals with decent contracts whom other teams crave. If the Hawks decide to detonate, there will be a long line waiting to pick up the pieces. Who should go? According to the Hawks source, who asked not to be identified, Terry and Ratliff are the biggest problems. Shareef Abdur-Rahim should go, as well, if the Hawks aren't able to parlay Terry and Ratliff into an all-star leader. In other words, Abdur-Rahim is a good enough player, but he's not a guy you build around. He's Scottie Pippen looking for someone else to lead. In the process, the Hawks want to unload one other big contract (read: Alan Henderson) to get far enough under the cap to make some noise this summer. If they find a way to get Terry, Ratliff, Abdur-Rahim and Henderson off the books while taking back minimal salary in return, they can reduce a projected 2004-05 payroll of $52 million to $12 million. The blueprint How does it happen? The options aren't that pretty. The Hawks aren't going to get equal value in return. At this point, you'd have to live with the fact that the team will get lots of cap room and a few prospects to work with. As always, Insider has some ideas. Shareef Abdur-Rahim Power Forward Atlanta Hawks Profile 2003-2004 SEASON STATISTICS GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT% 38 19.4 9.4 2.5 .493 .856 Moving Rahim: This is the easy part. Abdur-Rahim is just 27 years old and is putting up solid numbers (19.4 ppg, 9.4 rpg) once again. The knock on him is simple. Since his rookie season, when he averaged 18.3 ppg, Rahim hasn't done much to improve. Scouts see a talented kid who lacks the killer instinct to lead on the court or develop his game off the court. With the right coach and the right motivation, maybe he changes. But even if he doesn't, he'd be an awesome second or third wheel on a good team. His contract is easy enough to digest, at $13.5 million this year and $14.6 million next year. The key for Atlanta is to get major cap relief and top prospects (like the Suns did with Marbury) in return. How does that happen? The Sonics have always been the best fit for Abdur-Rahim. They almost traded for him two years ago, before backing out at the last second. The team is rolling but needs a post presence who can score in the paint. Brent Barry, Jerome James and Vladimir Radmanovic for Abdur-Rahim gives the Hawks roughly $7 million in cap relief next year, and a top, low-priced young prospect in Radmanovic. The Jazz have enough cap room to make a trade for Abdur-Rahim, but would an offer of a couple of high first-round draft picks and Greg Osterag's expiring contract be enough to get the Hawks to make a deal? The Warriors could offer the expiring contracts of Adonal Foyle and Avery Johnson, along with a top player like Jason Richardson or Troy Murphy, but since when have the Warriors been willing to spend more money? Whatever the Hawks do, they shouldn't move Rahim until they have deals in place for Ratliff and Terry. They'll become even more unruly if Rahim goes and the team takes yet another step back. Trading Rahim is the last move, not the first one. Theo Ratliff Forward-Center Atlanta Hawks Profile 2003-2004 SEASON STATISTICS GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT% 38 7.6 6.6 0.8 .451 .619 Moving Ratliff: Plenty of teams are also interested in Ratliff. He's one of the top shot blockers in the league and a legit center in the Eastern Conference. Ratliff is on the books for $10.1 million this year and $10.9 million in 2004-05. Who's interested? There's talk the Blazers want Ratliff and would be willing to swap Rasheed Wallace for him if the Hawks also included Terry. Terry is a base-year player, which makes that trade more difficult, but it is doable with the right add-ons. It might be simpler for Portland to offer a combo of Wesley Person's expiring contract, Jeff McInnis and a prospect like Travis Outlaw straight up for Ratliff. The Grizzlies have interest in Ratliff, but they're running out of ammo to get him. A combo of Stromile Swift, Jake Tsakalidis and Shane Battier might be enough, but is the injury-prone Ratliff really worth that price? I don't think so, and neither does Jerry West. The Bucks could offer Toni Kukoc's expiring contract and a prospect like Marcus Haislip. The Celtics could send the expiring contracts of Chris Mills and Chris Mihm to the Hawks, but surely Atlanta would demand a first-round pick or two to make it happen. Jason Terry Point Guard Atlanta Hawks Profile 2003-2004 SEASON STATISTICS GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT% 37 15.7 3.9 4.9 .429 .822 Moving Terry: Again, the interest is there, but Terry's base-year compensation status makes him tough to trade. So does the fact that he can veto any trade until this summer, because the Hawks matched his offer sheet. At this point, you'd think Terry would be happy to go anywhere else. If the Hawks want to trade him, they're going to have to package him with Ratliff or Abdur-Rahim to make the deal big enough to absorb the base-year problems. That's going to be very difficult. The Blazers could get it done. The Jazz could too, except the Hawks aren't allowed to trade Terry to Utah for one year, because the offer sheet they matched was from the Jazz. The Pacers have had plenty of interest in Terry in the past, but they don't have the expiring salaries to get it done.

Atlanta trades: PG Jason Terry (17.2 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 5.2 apg in 36.4 minutes) C Theo Ratliff (7.7 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 0.9 apg in 30.1 minutes) PF Alan Henderson (0.0 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 4.0 minutes) SF Stephen Jackson (12.9 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 2.5 apg in 33.3 minutes) Atlanta receives: SF Rasheed Wallace (16.7 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 2.8 apg in 38.7 minutes) SG Wesley Person (6.0 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 1.4 apg in 19.5 minutes) Change in team outlook: -15.1 ppg, -9.5 rpg, and -4.4 apg. Portland trades: SF Rasheed Wallace (16.7 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 2.8 apg in 38.7 minutes) SG Wesley Person (6.0 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 1.4 apg in 19.5 minutes) And the number one they receive from Memphis in the Bonzi trade Portland receives: PG Jason Terry (17.2 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 5.2 apg in 32 games) C Theo Ratliff (7.7 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 0.9 apg in 33 games) PF Alan Henderson (0.0 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 1 games) SF Stephen Jackson (12.9 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 2.5 apg in 31 games) Change in team outlook: +15.1 ppg, +9.5 rpg, and +4.4 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED

Atlanta trades: PG Jason Terry (17.2 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 5.2 apg in 36.4 minutes) C Theo Ratliff (7.7 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 0.9 apg in 30.1 minutes) PF Alan Henderson (0.0 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 4.0 minutes) SF Stephen Jackson (12.9 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 2.5 apg in 33.3 minutes) Atlanta receives: SF Rasheed Wallace (16.7 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 2.8 apg in 38.7 minutes) SG Wesley Person (6.0 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 1.4 apg in 19.5 minutes) Change in team outlook: -15.1 ppg, -9.5 rpg, and -4.4 apg. Portland trades: SF Rasheed Wallace (16.7 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 2.8 apg in 38.7 minutes) SG Wesley Person (6.0 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 1.4 apg in 19.5 minutes) And the number one they receive from Memphis in the Bonzi trade Portland receives: PG Jason Terry (17.2 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 5.2 apg in 32 games) C Theo Ratliff (7.7 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 0.9 apg in 33 games) PF Alan Henderson (0.0 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 1 games) SF Stephen Jackson (12.9 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 2.5 apg in 31 games) Change in team outlook: +15.1 ppg, +9.5 rpg, and +4.4 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED

Atlanta trades: PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (20.1 ppg, 9.7 rpg, 2.7 apg in 36.3 minutes) C Theo Ratliff (7.7 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 0.9 apg in 30.1 minutes) PG Jason Terry (17.2 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 5.2 apg in 36.4 minutes) PF Alan Henderson (0.0 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 4.0 minutes) PF Chris Crawford (2.5 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 8.9 minutes) SF Stephen Jackson (12.9 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 2.5 apg in 33.3 minutes) Atlanta receives: SG Bob Sura (3.1 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 12.7 minutes) C Zeljko Rebracca (2.6 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.3 apg in 9.7 minutes) PF Darko Milicic (0.5 ppg, 0.4 rpg, 0.2 apg in 2.8 minutes) SG Brent Barry (11.2 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 4.9 apg in 32.5 minutes) PG Antonio Daniels (6.7 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 2.8 apg in 17.8 minutes) PG Ronald Murray (17.4 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 3.1 apg in 30.8 minutes) PF Antonio McDyess (8.6 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.1 apg in 23.7 minutes) PG Charlie Ward (8.4 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 4.8 apg in 23.4 minutes) Change in team outlook: -1.9 ppg, -8.6 rpg, and +7.1 apg. Detroit trades: SG Bob Sura (3.1 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 12.7 minutes) C Zeljko Rebracca (2.6 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.3 apg in 9.7 minutes) PF Darko Milicic (0.5 ppg, 0.4 rpg, 0.2 apg in 2.8 minutes) Detroit receives: PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (20.1 ppg, 9.7 rpg, 2.7 apg in 33 games) Change in team outlook: +13.9 ppg, +5.7 rpg, and +0.6 apg. Seattle trades: SG Brent Barry (11.2 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 4.9 apg in 32.5 minutes) PG Antonio Daniels (6.7 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 2.8 apg in 17.8 minutes) PG Ronald Murray (17.4 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 3.1 apg in 30.8 minutes) Seattle receives: PG Jason Terry (17.2 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 5.2 apg in 32 games) PF Chris Crawford (2.5 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 14 games) Change in team outlook: -15.6 ppg, -1.5 rpg, and -5.2 apg. New York trades: PF Antonio McDyess (8.6 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.1 apg in 23.7 minutes) PG Charlie Ward (8.4 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 4.8 apg in 23.4 minutes) New York receives: C Theo Ratliff (7.7 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 0.9 apg in 33 games) PF Alan Henderson (0.0 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 1 games) SF Stephen Jackson (12.9 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 2.5 apg in 31 games) Change in team outlook: +3.6 ppg, +4.4 rpg, and -2.5 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED

Atlanta trades: SF Stephen Jackson (13.1 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 2.5 apg in 33.5 minutes) PF Chris Crawford (2.3 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 9.1 minutes) C Theo Ratliff (7.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 0.9 apg in 30.0 minutes) C Alan Henderson (7.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 0.9 apg in 30.0 minutes) Atlanta receives: PG Jamal Crawford (16.1 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 5.3 apg in 33.6 minutes) SF Rasheed Wallace (16.9 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 3.0 apg in 39.1 minutes) Change in team outlook: +10.0 ppg, -2.7 rpg, and +4.5 apg. Chicago trades: PF Marcus Fizer (7.3 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.7 apg in 15.3 minutes) SF Eddie Robinson (4.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.2 apg in 17.9 minutes) PG Jamal Crawford (16.1 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 5.3 apg in 33.6 minutes) Chicago receives: PF Antoine Walker (17.2 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 4.9 apg in 27 games) Change in team outlook: -11.0 ppg, +0.1 rpg, and -2.3 apg. Dallas trades: PF Antoine Walker (17.2 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 4.9 apg in 37.7 minutes) Dallas receives: PF Chris Crawford (2.3 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 13 games) C Theo Ratliff (7.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 0.9 apg in 30 games) Change in team outlook: -7.3 ppg, -0.9 rpg, and -3.6 apg. Portland trades: SF Rasheed Wallace (16.9 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 3.0 apg in 39.1 minutes) Portland receives: SF Stephen Jackson (13.1 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 2.5 apg in 28 games) C Alan Henderson (7.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 0.9 apg in 30 games) PF Marcus Fizer (7.3 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.7 apg in 15 games) SF Eddie Robinson (4.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.2 apg in 22 games) Change in team outlook: +8.3 ppg, +3.5 rpg, and +1.4 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED

Hawks Sign Dion Glover Glover ATLANTA, GA (September 26, 2003) ----- Atlanta Hawks General Manager Billy Knight announced today that the club has signed free agent guard Dion Glover to a contract. Per team policy, terms of the agreement were not released. A four-year pro who has spent his entire career with the Hawks, Glover’s averaged 8.1 points and 2.8 rebounds in 218 games (.420 FG%, .750 FT%). Last season he started in 42 of 76 contests and turned in personal highs in scoring average (9.7 ppg), rebounds (3.7 rpg) and assists (1.9 apg), and he was the only Hawks player to have a winning record as a starter - a 21-21 mark. His numbers increased significantly in those games, as the 6-5 guard posted 12.2 points, 4.9 rebounds and 2.6 assists in those contests, while shooting .449 from the field. Glover finished the 2002-03 season as the Hawks’ fourth-leading scorer and fifth-best rebounder. The Hawks’ seven-game package, “the Magnificent Seven,” offers fans the best games on the 2003-04 schedule and fans can obtain them by calling (404) 827-DUNK. For general news and information on season tickets and group sales opportunities, visit the team’s web site at www.hawks.com, or call the Hawks at (404) 827-3800. E-mail this story

Ford's Fixer Uppers: Hawking the Hawks By Chad Ford NBA Insider Send an Email to Chad Ford Monday, August 25 Updated: August 25 9:19 AM ET Are you a Western Conference team looking to keep up with the Joneses? Has the Lakers' addition of Karl Malone and Gary Payton got you down? Tired of seeing Mark Cuban steal away players just because he's crazy enough to overpay for them? Players like Theo Ratliff might be more valuable to other teams than the rebuilding Hawks. Still waiting for your team to make that one move that puts you over the top and into contention? Never fear. The Hawks are here. After the Mavs strip-mined the Warriors of much of their talent last week, several other Western Conference teams looking for a big offseason boost (all of whom were trying to cut deals with Golden State) began searching for another down-on-its-luck franchise willing to give up talented veterans for cap space and/or future prospects. By Friday, the vultures began circling over Philips Arena, hoping new Hawks GM Billy Knight would do the sensible thing and hand over his veterans, jump starting the rebuilding process next summer under new owner David McDavid. It appears they are right on target. The team actually tried to hold a fire sale in February, near the trade deadline, but couldn't find takers for players like Glenn Robinson, Theo Ratliff, Shareef Abdur-Rahim and Nazr Mohammed. Ever since the Hawks shipped Robinson to the Sixers for a guy who was ready to retire, Terrell Brandon, the writing has been on the wall in Atlanta. Teams like the Rockets, Blazers, Grizzlies and Sonics have been working the phones hard all summer to try to keep up with the NBA's elite, but so far all four teams have struck out. In every case, what those teams need are veterans who can thrive in the paint. The Hawks just happen to have three -- Abdur-Rahim, Ratliff and Mohammed. With only a minuscule chance of actually competing for a playoff spot this year, the Hawks would be better off trading away their high-priced veterans for cap room in 2004 and several young prospects to begin building around. Can they make a deal before the season starts? Insider has some ideas on how the Hawks can help themselves in the long run and several Western Conference teams in the short run. Step One Shareef Abdur-Rahim Power Forward Atlanta Hawks Profile 2002-2003 SEASON STATISTICS GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT% 81 19.9 8.4 3.0 .478 .841 Trade Shareef Abdur-Rahim to the Rockets for Glen Rice and Eddie Griffin: Giving up on Abdur-Rahim will be the toughest pill for the Hawks to swallow. While he isn't a superstar, he puts up solid numbers every night and is a solid citizen off the court. The problem is, his contract doesn't jibe with the type of player he really is -- a complementary guy who's at his best when someone else is carrying the big load. Enter the Rockets. With Steve Francis and Yao Ming already in place, the Rockets are looking for the third wheel that pushes them into the playoffs. New head coach Jeff Van Gundy knows that owner Les Alexander has lost his patience with this team, and right now the Rockets' playoff hopes seem to swing on the development of Eddie Griffin. While Griffin has star potential down the road, the Rockets may not be willing to wait, especially if they can get their hands on a "young veteran" (he's just 26) like Abdur-Rahim. Put him on the floor with Francis, Yao, Cuttino Mobley and Maurice Taylor, and the Rockets are guaranteed postseason action for many years to come. Those moves would give the Rockets this opening-day roster: Point guard: Steve Francis, Moochie Norris Shooting guard: Cuttino Mobley, Eric Piatkowski Small forward: Maurice Taylor, Adreian Griffin, Bostjan Nachbar Power forward: Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Malick Badiane Center: Yao Ming, Kelvin Cato The trade gives the Hawks a promising, versatile young forward in Griffin and roughly $10 million in cap relief next summer when Rice's contract comes off the books. Step Two Stromile Swift Forward-Center Memphis Grizzlies Profile 2002-2003 SEASON STATISTICS GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT% 67 9.7 5.7 0.7 .481 .722 Ship Ratliff, Mohammed and Chris Crawford to the Grizzlies for Stromile Swift, Wesley Person and Brevin Knight:This one will be an easier sell in Atlanta. While Ratliff and Mohammed both are skilled, neither player seems to fit into the Hawks' long term plans. Ratliff is 30 and has a history of injuries. Mohammed is young enough, but hasn't been able to win the confidence of the coaching staff in Atlanta. Last year he played just 35 games because of a stress fracture. Even in the games he did play, Mohammed averaged a mere 12.7 minutes. Ratliff and Mohammed's size are huge commodities in Memphis, however. Jerry West has been working the phones all summer trying to find a real center to patrol the middle. He got close on several occasions, only to watch deals for Michael Olowokandi and Erick Dampier crumble at the last minute. Neither Ratliff or Mohammed have the upside of the Kandi-man or Damp (that's a depressing thought) but together, they greatly improve the Grizzlies problems in the middle. Ratliff led the the league in blocks per game last season (3.2 bpg) and is an above average rebounder. Mohammed is a good offensive rebounder and gives the Grizzlies something they long for, muscle in the paint. The big question from the Grizzlies end? Would they really give up Swift? West has been insisting all summer that the team likes Swift and isn't shopping him. Will the allure of two big men be enough to pry him out of their hands? Those moves would give the Grizzlies this opening-day roster: Point guard: Jason Williams, Earl Watson, Troy Bell Shooting guard: James Posey, Michael Dickerson, Dahntay Jones Small forward: Mike Miller, Shane Battier, Chris Crawford, Ryan Humphrey Power forward: Pau Gasol, Lorenzen Wright, Theron Smith Center: Theo Ratliff, Nazr Mohammed, Cezary Trybanski For the Hawks, the swap gives them an athletic big man who can play both power forward and center. Swift was very solid after the All-Star break last season, averaging 13.7 ppg and 8.2 rpg in the month of March. Person and Knight are included as salary cap dumps. Both of them come off the books next summer, clearing another $12.7 million in cap room. Step Three Jason Terry Guard Atlanta Hawks Profile 2002-2003 SEASON STATISTICS GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT% 81 17.2 3.4 7.4 .428 .887 Re-sign Jason Terry: Now that the Hawks know they'll have plenty of room next summer, they should feel much more comfortable re-signing Terry to a long-term deal. Terry really started to come around at the point last season, ranking seventh in the league in assists at 7.2 apg game. While he'll always be a bit of a tweener, the addition of good ball handlers, like first round pick Boris Diaw, will give the Hawks some flexibility to play Terry at the two and use Diaw to run the team as a point forward. What is Terry worth? Considering he can't secure an offer sheet from anyone else, the Hawks are in a good bargaining position. Why not offer him the same deal that Philly offered Kenny Thomas -- seven years, $50 million? That would give Terry a starting salary of $5.5 million and keep the Hawks in a good cap situation next summer. Step Four Sign free agents Stephen Jackson and Donnell Harvey: The key here is getting Jackson to agree to a three-year deal with a team option for year three. To do it, the team would probably have to offer him something close to their full mid-level exception -- like a three-year, $13.5 million dollar deal. It's a good deal for both parties. Jackson can't get that type of money anywhere else. The Hawks need help at shooting guard, and it would allow them to audition Jackson for two seasons. If they like him, they can always pick up the option. If they don't, he comes off the books after the 2004 season, along with Alan Henderson, freeing up even more cap room. Harvey can't find a home anywhere. He was once ranked as the top high school prospect in the Class of 1999. What happened? Harvey averaged 7.9 ppg and 5.3 rpg for the Nuggets last season in just 20.9 mpg. He's still one of the better rebounders in the league per minute, but his lack of size and any semblance of an offensive game hurts him. The Hawks can afford to give him a one-year deal and see what he does. Those moves would give the Hawks this opening-day roster: Point guard: Jason Terry, Dan Dickau, Brevin Knight Shooting guard: Stephen Jackson, Wesley Person, Travis Hansen Small forward: Glen Rice, Boris Diaw Power forward: Eddie Griffin, Donnell Harvey Center: Stromile Swift, Alan Henderson This is a very versatile lineup. Terry, Jackson, Diaw, Griffin and Swift can all play multiple positions, giving coach Terry Stotts lots of flexibility. You could even argue the Hawks would be better off with this lineup than the one they currently plan on fielding. It certainly would be more exciting. Step Five Wait for your cap room next summer: By making all of those moves, the Hawks would put themselves in a great position for next summer. First, the team will be in contention for the overall No. 1 pick in the draft. With so many young big men headlining the top prospects in 2004 (like Emeka Okafor, Dwight Howard, Peja Samardziski and Pavel Podkolzine) the Hawks should be able to walk away with a nice player to help them in the middle. Second, assuming the Hawks draft and pay a top-four pick, and assuming they made the moves we just talked about, the team's payroll will come in at around $28 million for 2004-05. Assuming the cap stays at $43.8 million, Atlanta would have roughly $16 million to play with next summer. That should be enough to re-sign Swift (who will be a restricted free agent) and another top-tier free agent. In 2005, the team should also be able to clear another $12 million in cap room (at least) when Henderson and Jackson both come off the books. They'll have to use some of that money to re-sign Griffin (who will be a restricted free agent in 2005), but there still should be enough cash to give the Hawks room to bring in one solid player in free agency. Put all of that together and the Hawks, Rockets and Grizzlies all have something to look forward to next year. The Rockets should be a playoff lock, the Grizzlies should be good enough to battle the Blazers, Sonics and Clippers for the eighth playoff seed, and the Hawks will have a nice young core to begin building around when they hit the free agent market in 2004.

If the Clippers match the offer the Maggette the Jazz will only have 20 million commited in saleries for next season. The NBA requires all team to spend at least 32 on saleries. A quote from the owner. The roster is far from complete, he said, because O'Connor will now be aggressive in finding good fits for trades. "I wouldn't be surprised if there are some teams coming to us and saying, 'We'll give you a first-round draft pick or whatever if you will absorb some of our contracts for a year.' There are some opportunities there," Miller said. I dont want to trade any of our future draft picks to lose contracts and gain space. Most of the players we need to trade have two years remaining on there contracts. Are there any potental to help atlanta. I was thinking about when the Hawks signed Mutombo we trade Grant Long and Augmon to Detroit to free up space. Any thoughts?

Will the Hawks invite David Anderson to camp this year. I can't remember where he plays. Wasn't he a powerforward.