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This is how i look at it. As a PLAYER, no, i would rather keep Milsap over Melo. For long term reasons, Melo would be a good fit.............FOR THIS REASON.................Other premium free agents would look at that move as a reason to come to Atlanta. Suddenly, i see a 2016 free agent like Joakim Noah maybe replacing Al Horford. I see something SIMILAR to this. With this type of lineup, Noah and Splitter would be the dedicated rebounders, and Melo and Hardaway the scorers.....
c Noah
pf Splitter
sf Melo
sg Hardaway
pg Teague
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Lamar who???????
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I'm still on the fence when it comes to the new uniforms. Just need to see them on the court for a while to decide. But honestly, if the Hawks are winning, who cares.
Calling the Falcons uniform a "clown costume" is laughable. It's one of the best uniforms in the league. The Braves uniform is plain, but it has a classic look.
-2 points for the GA Dome which is being replaced by a state of the art stadium in just over a year? This guy is really stretching to justify his rankings...
Braves have one of the best uniforms in baseball. CLASSIC and nice looking. The Falcons DO have bozo the clown uniforms. NEVER liked them at all. The Hawks uniforms, like you said, can go either way. Have to see them on the court first.
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Reminds of a story. A few years ago the Atlanta Hawks foundation gave the city of Kennesaw $30,000 dollars to build a basketball court. The city council complained that the money wasn't sufficient and that they didn't have the funds to provide lights etc. A few weeks later they "found" a million dollars to build the skate park to attract ESPN and competitions to the area. They ended up giving the money back to the Hawks. Rather odd story but true. You have to pretend like you are dumb not to know why they really did't want that basketball court.
lmao.........sounds about right..........
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50 is our floor unless we have bad luck with injuries.
On paper, if things come together, they will make it to the second round. There are a lot of things that have to come together:
1. will Thabo come back 100 percent.
2. will Bazemore develop a semblance of a jump shot.
3. will Hardaway florish in this system.
4. will Splitter improve the offensive and defensive rebounding.
5. will Korver come back 100 percent.
I will say this: I like the makeup of THIS team, vs the one last year.
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45-50 WINS.........second round exit..........
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Call me crazy, but I am taking the guy who won an NBA Championship over the Red's Celtics with HOFers Bill Russell, Bob Cousy, Bill Sharman, Tom Heinson and Frank Ramsey. Petit played against Russell, Wilt, etc. He is the only Hawk to ever win an MVP. He was an 11 time All-Star, 10 time 1st Team All-NBA and 1 Time 2nd Team All-NBA over his 11 years. He remains #3 All-Time in rebounds per game and #8 All-Time in points per game.
He was the Tim Duncan of his era. Dominating, consistent and a consummate winner.
I don't see how you just write off guys like Bill Russell, Wilt, Oscar Robertson, Willis Reed, Jerry West, Elgin Baylor and others who were among his contemporaries.
You make some good points. VERY good points. Im not writing them off, its just that when i look at old clips of the NBA back then, i sense a overall feel of the game that is inferior to the game that was played from the 1970s to the present. That doesnt mean those players wouldnt dominate now as they did then, im just going by what i sense from the OVERALL game, not just particular players. Im looking at the athletic component of the game.
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Roundfield has to be my PF.
I agree. I posted that fact in another thread. As good as Petit was, i dont count players who played back in the 50s,60s because the sport didnt have all the best players in the NBA. People dont realize how great a player Roundfield was. He was a beast on offense and defense, but particularly, defense. Won defensive player of the year. Back then, the NBA was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy more physical, and Roundfield was the lynchpin of a great Hawks defense started by Hubie Brown, and carried over to Mike Fratello.
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What no one is saying yet... it remains at least one possibility that the drugs were, in actuality, his brother's, and that the decision to claim them as his was actually an effort to keep his little brother from a felony on his record. Mike's made his money... or at least some. In a contest between bad choices, he may have thought the better of the bad choices was to keep his little brother's record clean.
I disagree. Anybody that would tattoo their brother's LIPS on their neck, got to be getting high.......lmao
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I have ZERO sympathy for drug addicts......................its all kinds of four letter words i have for them. I dont care if he was the Hawks leading scorer, he GOT to go.
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This is an incorrect statement. Colorado thought it would get so much tax revenue from legalizing the sale of marijuana, but that could not be further from the truth (from what they were estimating to what actually has come in).
Now I think weed will be legal, but let's not say that it will be some huge tax-generating business. These drug dealers will just not go to jail for selling it. Why would you want to pay taxes?
Looks like they doing ok to me..............lmao
Colorado’s legal weed market: $700 million in sales last year, $1 billion by 2016By Christopher Ingraham February 12Legal marijuana was a $700 million dollar industry in Colorado last year, according to a Washington Post analysis of recently-released tax data from the state's Department of Revenue. In 2014, Colorado retailers sold $386 million of medical marijuana and $313 million for purely recreational purposes. The two segments of the market generated $63 million in tax revenue, with an additional $13 million collected in licenses and fees.
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Why casino fever has spread to Turner FieldJuly 29, 2015
The Hank Aaron statue at Turner field. Curtis Compton, ccompton@ajc.com
Player by player, the Braves are abandoning Turner Field. If the Great Slimming continues apace, by the end of next season the team should be able to make its final exit from the stadium with a single flip of the turnstile.
And yet Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed thinks the price of the soon-to-be-vacant playing field and 70 surrounding acres may have just jumped. You might call it a case of MGM fever, but there’s more to it than that.
The mayor’s real estate remarks last week were a burst of what might be called premeditated spontaneity.
Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed. Kent D. Johnson, kdjohnson@ajc.com
Politicians generally put great store in the dog-and-pony press conferences they call. The official reason for summoning reporters to City Hall last week was a $40.5 million facelift for Martin Luther King Jr. Drive. The charts were there. The council members were there.
But after the mayoral spiel, not a single journalist wanted to pursue the topic of MLK Drive. And Reed wasn’t a bit displeased.
The mayor ducked an inquiry about Confederate symbolism. And then came the pitch he’d been sitting on: What about Turner Field?
“Since the MGM announcement around the Georgia Dome, we have gotten two to four requests for meetings, to have a conversation about buying the Turner Field parcel,” Reed said. All were from MGM competitors – domestic and international.
Only three days before, news had surfaced that MGM Resorts International, sensing a shift in the state Capitol, is preparing a 2016 push to obtain legislative approval for a $1 billion, Las Vegas-style casino in Atlanta. Sites scouted included the Georgia Dome, Centennial Olympic Park, and the downtown “Gulch.”
With his remarks, Reed effectively expanded the search area. In a reluctant sort of way.
“I’m not there on gaming at all. I believe Las Vegas is in Las Vegas for a reason,” the mayor said. “I just have real issues setting a facility in Atlanta where working folks get off work and walk into a gaming casino.”
And yet to put the kibosh on talks with casino magnates or their representatives would amount to “fiscal malpractice,” he added. “Staggering” numbers were at stake.
Many faults have been assigned to the mayor of Atlanta, but equivocation isn’t one of them. So what’s up?
Well over a year ago, shortly after the Braves announced they would depart for Cobb County, Georgia State University and a private development team led by the Atlanta real estate firm Carter began pitching a $300 million proposal that calls for the conversion of “The Ted” into a football, soccer and track and field stadium.
The firm also wants to develop the surrounding acreage with student housing – plus retail establishments. A first session with local residents was held in June. Things did not go well.
“None of us want to live on frat row,” said one long-time resident.
You might wonder how a neighborhood with an overabundance of laundromats, liquor stores and check-cashing establishments can afford to be picky. But the Summerhill community has been promised stadium rainbows since 1965, when the first Braves home was thrown up on their backs. Residents have little reason to trust developers.
“It’s fair to say that the neighborhood isn’t sold on the idea,” said Carla Smith, the councilwoman who represents the area. “What the future holds, I don’t know.”
The mayor said last week that he would follow the lead of Smith, who has been able to cobble together a community-based study of what might be done with the Turner Field acreage. It won’t be completed until next June.
Reed said he has no doubt that a university would make a better quality-of-life neighbor for Summerhill. “I’ve got to believe for the kids in that neighborhood, it’s probably more inspirational to look onto a college campus with professors and sports and ball fields than to look onto a gaming casino,” the mayor said.
But by holding out a casino alternative, the mayor was encouraging both sides to get down to the business of unicorn-free negotiations. Now, in order to work, a casino threat – no, that’s the wrong word – a casino alternative requires credibility. It requires motive.
Fortunately, Gov. Nathan Deal and the Atlanta Hawks have provided. The governor said this week he might let Georgia voters have the final word on casino gambling in a referendum. And the Hawks announced their need for a new or renovated stadium.
Reed has said he’s open to some public funding to keep the basketball team in Atlanta, but where to find the cash? Well, when it comes to Turner Field, the math would tell you that a $1 billion casino deal is bigger than a $300 million GSU-based expansion.
The university, by the way, has yet to produce details of how it would finance its portion of the venture, so Reed’s casino pitch might also be aimed at those who operate the levers of state government, including the Board of Regents.
A gaming facility may be just as threatening to the Gold Dome crowd as to Summerhill. A casino where “The Ted” now sits would be a virtual next-door neighbor to the state Capitol. The optics would be deadly. And surely locating two houses of chance so closely together would violate local land-use restrictions.
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Don't worry, Randy. I work downtown and I can tell you that you aren't missing anything.
I think if/when gambling is passed, the entire way downtown looks will change because I seriously doubt that just one casino would arrive in town. I see a fleet of casino developers making their way here to stake their claim. If the Hawks move to the Civic Center site and Time Warner abandons the CNN Center (both possibilities), you have those two properties, along with Underground and the gulch to build upon. I have a feeling that those casino folks know this already and so does City Hall. I can see MGM turning Philips and the CNN Center into a massive casino and another developer who missed out on that one turning Underground, the Railroad Depot, and the old World of Coke next to it into another casino/hotel. That would all but put GDOT into a 'put up or shut up' position in terms of developing the gulch into a mass transit hub; the same mass transit hub they've been talking about for well over a decade. And with the additional foot traffic being generated from these locations, they'll have to move, if not, just to keep another developer from snatching that away...
Oh yes, its all shaping up. I just dropped a article from the AJC today in which they mentioned the possibility of tying horse racing to the casino's. I had forgotten all about the horse racing. I know Turner Field is the first option for the horse racing. Once this all comes together, like i said, its a WRAP............
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In today's AJC:
David Ralston ‘open’ to debate on casino gambling, but won’t endorse itJuly 29, 2015
House Speaker David Ralston, center, at a press conference earlier this year. Bob Andres, bandres@ajc.com
House Speaker David Ralston is open to, if wary of, the coming debate over legalizing casino gambling in Georgia.
But he also offers the reminder that the discussion over horse-racing, uncoupled from casinos this past legislative session, has already made some inroads among skeptical lawmakers. Said Ralston on Tuesday:
A study committee meeting this year is tasked with investigating, but it sets up a prickly problem. The Georgia Horse Racing Coalition and other backers of pari-mutuel wagering will have to decide whether to ally with MGM and other casino magnates bursting onto the scene or to go it alone.
“There’s been a lot of interest in pari-mutuel betting in the House for a number of years now, and some people have the view for that to be successful you have to have casinos to supplement them. I don’t have the answer to that … In my view, it comes out of the whole horse-racing discussion. There seems to be a split of opinion about whether horse racing, standing alone, can be financially viable or whether you need both.”
Ralston, for one, said he’s “open to positive ideas,” but that it’s early yet. “I’m not advocating for it,” he hastened to add.
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It's coming. The sole contingency standing in the way are the folks who still want the state to be run like Mayberry, RFD. They still bristle at the thought that alcohol can be sold on Sundays now. And deep down, they know that their sphere of influence is fading away. They don't ever want this put to a vote because they KNOW what the result would be.
A casino within meters of the GWCC? Are you kidding me? Downtown would change overnight. And the property values in that area would hit the roof as everyone with a developer's license would storm City Hall to build new hotels, restaurants, shops, plazas, and then some. Think those folks hanging around Five Points and Underground right now would still be there with more cops and security being added?
Exactly. Atlanta is STILL one of the fastest growing cities in America. You put a Casino, in Atlanta, its a WRAP.................You combine a Casino, with the fastest growing movie and television industry, suddenly, Atlanta would be the number one destination for people with money ( entertainers, business people, athletes, etc.)
Lets be real. The MAJOR attraction of Vegas for rich people, is to be SEEN out and about, gambling. Bring THAT to Atlanta, with the swag Atlanta has with strip clubs, etc. its a MAJOR wrap...................lmao
Barkley could WALK from TNT studios, to MGM.................
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I've stated as much in my last post regarding this topic and fully believe that the seeds are being planted as we speak. Contrary to what you hear on the news about the long odds of it happening, the higher ups at that gold dome downtown are tired of watching that juicy gambling $$$ (and the taxes derived from it) getting spent everywhere else in the southeast EXCEPT here. The casino folks are just waiting out on the last remnants of that anti-gambling core to step aside (see Deal, Nathan) so they can bust through. They know full well that the state would literally do ANYTHING to avoid another recession-level hit to the coffers. And with so many folks here being tax-averse to the nth degree (remember that TSPLOST vote awhile back?), it will be a much easier sell to the next governor with the foresight to see what could be funded without having to put his job on the line come election time by asking for tax hikes. For goodness sakes, we have south Georgia Republicans pushing for casino gambling now. Years ago, that would've been political suicide. Let's be really honest here; whether we like it or not, if gambling was ever put to a state-wide referendum, it would pass in seconds.
Now don't get me wrong; I don't think that legalizing gambling is a silver bullet by any stretch. But at the same time, I fully believe in opening up all of the avenues you can in order to create revenue streams, so long as you're not infringing on the rights and property of others without consent and/or just compensation.
Anyway, while I think that a renovation could happen at Philips, the mayor played his Civic Center card early for a reason. He'd love nothing more than to dump that albatross off the books and appease the Hawks' new owners with one swift stroke. At the same time, I seriously doubt that he's going to wait an eternity for GDOT to finally move on the gulch project so he's going to give them a little motivation to do so. In other words, if you don't think that he hasn't been in conversation with the folks at MGM, if not several other casino developers, I have some swampland in Florida I'd love to sell to you at a discount. Any sort of legit gambling spot in that area would print $$$ with the foot traffic generated from all of those attractions; much more so than at Turner Field, where GSU should get after the Braves move in 2017.
Reed is covering his butt by publicly stating he is against casinos, but is talking to EVERYBODY about building one.........lmao......
Three major casino gaming companies have joined MGM Resorts International in expressing interest in building a casino resort in downtown Atlanta, Mayor Kasim Reed said Thursday.
But Reed has some of the same reservations about plopping a casino in the middle of Georgia’s capital as have already been expressed by Gov. Nathan Deal.
“I believe Las Vegas is in Las Vegas for a reason,” Reed told reporters during a news conference at Atlanta City Hall. “[but] it would be fiscal malpractice ... not to hear these people out.”
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The new MGM thats under construction in Maryland.....................
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Was this REALLY put up for a vote????????????
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I've stated as much in my last post regarding this topic and fully believe that the seeds are being planted as we speak. Contrary to what you hear on the news about the long odds of it happening, the higher ups at that gold dome downtown are tired of watching that juicy gambling $$$ (and the taxes derived from it) getting spent everywhere else in the southeast EXCEPT here. The casino folks are just waiting out on the last remnants of that anti-gambling core to step aside (see Deal, Nathan) so they can bust through. They know full well that the state would literally do ANYTHING to avoid another recession-level hit to the coffers. And with so many folks here being tax-averse to the nth degree (remember that TSPLOST vote awhile back?), it will be a much easier sell to the next governor with the foresight to see what could be funded without having to put his job on the line come election time by asking for tax hikes. For goodness sakes, we have south Georgia Republicans pushing for casino gambling now. Years ago, that would've been political suicide. Let's be really honest here; whether we like it or not, if gambling was ever put to a state-wide referendum, it would pass in seconds.
Now don't get me wrong; I don't think that legalizing gambling is a silver bullet by any stretch. But at the same time, I fully believe in opening up all of the avenues you can in order to create revenue streams, so long as you're not infringing on the rights and property of others without consent and/or just compensation.
Anyway, while I think that a renovation could happen at Philips, the mayor played his Civic Center card early for a reason. He'd love nothing more than to dump that albatross off the books and appease the Hawks' new owners with one swift stroke. At the same time, I seriously doubt that he's going to wait an eternity for GDOT to finally move on the gulch project so he's going to give them a little motivation to do so. In other words, if you don't think that he hasn't been in conversation with the folks at MGM, if not several other casino developers, I have some swampland in Florida I'd love to sell to you at a discount. Any sort of legit gambling spot in that area would print $$$ with the foot traffic generated from all of those attractions; much more so than at Turner Field, where GSU should get after the Braves move in 2017.
Exactly. You are in line with what i see happening also. They are making early moves to get the Hawks up out of that area, so that MGM can put that casino resort right next to the Georgia World Congress Center. The fact that Ressler wants a new arena is the cherry on the top for all parties involved. Heck, it wouldnt surprise me that the REAL reason his group was chosen over others, is the fact that Atlanta wants MGM at the Phillips arena spot, and Ressler WANTS to move the Hawks from that area. I bet the "renovating" Phillips is the fallback in case MGM builds elsewhere in Atlanta.
Once that casino goes up, its a WRAP for Mississippi, Carolina, etc. all those other destinations that people have been going to. Once that casino goes up, Atlanta is gonna REALLY boom.........
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I didn't know that gambling was legal in GA, however, if they put a percentage in to the Hope Scholarship, it's no different than the lottery. Tourism would be way up.
I would think Turner field would be a great place, however, if you could put a large Hotel next to the GCC/ Falcons dome and put the new Basketball arena somewhere close to that, then you will have revenue out the waahzoo.
Thats the angle that MGM is looking at. Thats why the NBA and the gambling industry wants a team in Vegas. They want the sports crowd to be able to be able to go to the Casino and the games.
Gambling is not legal in Georgia yet, but it appears that its about to change. Thats why MGM is pushing this hard.
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Casinos WILL be coming to Georgia. The latest news is that its got MAJOR traction to happening. MGM is working behind the scenes with the Georgia World Congress Center.
MGM has been scouting various locations thru out Atlanta for its new gambling resort. Locations have included the Georgia Dome ( The Falcons oppose that location, wanna use it for parking and tailgating), Turner Field ( FOUR casino companies are scouting that location ), and the Gulch, across the street from Phillips Arena.
The ANGLE im seeing is the possibility that if Ressler moves the location of the Hawks new arena ( I dont see him refurbishing Phillips), then MGM could swoop in and and be right NEXT to the convention center. The angle they are using is to stay close to the convention center and get that traffic into the gambling resort. Its a small footprint for what MGM wants to do, UNLESS, they use that space AND the Gulch together. I can see them having the city of Atlanta tear down that road and bridge that crosses in front of Phillips to accomodate that.
The Gulch looking towards Phillips arena:
sino and entertainment giant MGM Resorts International is pitching a $1 billion gambling complex for downtown Atlanta that backers say would funnel tens of millions of dollars into the HOPE scholarship. But first it would have to overcome stiff opposition in the General Assembly and the governor’s office.MGM’s proposal would create 3,500 jobs and offer Las Vegas-style casino gambling, as opposed to past ideas involving video slot machines, said state Rep. Ron Stephens, who chairs the House’s economic development committee. He called it the “Cadillac” of casino projects.“I’ve seen what they want to do, and it’s going to blow your mind,” said Stephens, R-Savannah. “It’s massive in its size and its elegance. This is a game-changer. I’m looking for a win-win-win and this is it.”An MGM Resorts spokesman confirmed the company’s interest in Atlanta but said its analysis in “the very preliminary stages.” The company started scouting Atlanta in recent months. The project would include a luxury hotel, entertainment venue, a gaming floor and other amenities. -
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I don't know what you mean. Nique is well respected, the question is has he been used well? Well, I shoiuldn't say well respected, the fans don't seem to respect Nique much, but I applaud Koonin for making Nique a statue as part of building a winning culture. You have to celebrate your heroes... not berate them. Magic was never berated by the Lakers. Bird never by the Celtics and Isaiah never berated by the Pistons. Aside from all the transients in the greatest city in the world, we have a lot of cynics also. People who are so bitter over the past that they can't move forward. The new ownership has a large job on their hands. Which gets back to the original question...
If we're building a winning culture, what can Grant Hill do to facilitate such a thing?
Bud and Koonin may not be forever, but Hill is a temporarily permanent part of this franchise now. I would hope that there are some plans ahead for him to endear himself to the city and the fans and not become a berated superstar.
Loosen up his collar and have fun...............
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THANK YOU!!!! Somebody finally mentioned Plastic Man.
He was a huge reason why that 93 - 94 team won 57 games that year. He had the highest WS/48 on the team that year, at .179 . . with an 17.9 PER . . and an almost 58% Total Shot percentage . . . while making only 1 out of 7 threes that year.
Despite Stacey starting at guard, he was a prototypical SF size at 6-8.
Ummm, wrong. go back to the second page. I have him ranked in my top five small forward list.
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What if Horford decides to leave??????