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13 minutes ago, NekiEcko said:
Actually, I would rather trade both and start anew.
I have to agree with Supers on this, due to two questions my friend from the Pacific Northwest asked me yesterday, which really resonated with me.
1. Even with the first pick, will the Hawks be a play-in team or a deep playoff run team next year, even with all of the changes?
If you draft Edey, Clingan, etc. you will not even be a "play in" team.
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9 minutes ago, aali34 said:
He said the opposite in his exit presser.
That he’s ok with not being the best player on the team.I mean, what else is he supposed to say?
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31 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:
So where do we stand now on the BI/Daniels/#21 for DJM and Clint deal? Could that still happen? Would the Hawks be more or less likely to include OO now?
Would y'all like a roster that looks something like this:
Trae/Daniels/BI/JJ/OO
Kobe/Bogi/Hunter/Mo/Sarr
Vit/AJ/ 21 and vets
Guards: Trae / Daniels / Kobe / Bogi / Vit
Wings: BI / Hunter / AJ / Bogi / Vit / Vet
Bigs: JJ / OO / Mo / Sarr / Ware at 21? / Vets
I like the versatility of this, but would want a quality back up big vet as well.
You kept Murray and Trade Trae. Trae is not gonna want to give up the spotlight. Murray, Ingram, Sarr, Johnson. Thats winning the East right there. TEAM comes first.
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4 hours ago, ryandauwalker said:
I have never bought into the notion of Trae being on the move… he has seemed loyal to ATL, and the decision to ship him off somewhere has never made sense. However, now it actually does with two years left before his player option, and he could leave for nothing.
Trae’s silence in the midst of one of the luckiest moments in Hawks history alongside true NBA folks saying he might be on the move have me thinking he actually may not be on the roster next season. Hard to believe, but I think we are here.He normally all over tweeter webs whenever the Hawks have done something big.
3 hours ago, Diesel said:Knowing the the draft is rigged.. and usually the NBA uses it to make up for major moves... Trae may be on the move.
THIS... I immediately starting trying to piece the moves together after the Hawks "won" the draft lottery. Trae most likely with either the Lakers or Pelicans next season.
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1 hour ago, Jody23 said:For a guy who's 7'1, that handle and fluidity look like a solid foundation to work for his offense imo.
He doesn't move or look like a 7 footer. More like a wing player. There should be zero debate as to what the Hawks should do with the first pick of this draft.
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5 hours ago, txsting said:
First thought is Clingan is more ready and proven. These euros scare me
They should. The last one to come through put up 73 points on the Hawks.
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19 minutes ago, KB21 said:
"His rim protection was especially important for Perth, a team that was downright atrocious at containing driblle penetration and needed Sarr to do a lot as a help defender around the basket. He was routinely acting as low man, rotating from the weak side corner to contest shots."
I mean, if this don't describe what the Hawks need, nothing else will.
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OP never gives up.
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25 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:
Damn . . even you approve?
What is happening today?
It comes with a bonus: This could actually work with Trae and Sarr. Trae would have Sarr AND Johnson.
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5 minutes ago, AHF said:Only the Hawks could go 50+ years without a #1 pick they drafted on their roster and then get it in possibly the worst draft ever. Still beats the 11th pick or something. Let’s go Fields!
I guess they can always give the pick back and tell the NBA they want to draft lower in the draft, lmao.
There is nothing negative about this draft as a Hawks fan. I don't care how long it took. Drafting number 1 is good.
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7 minutes ago, aali34 said:
Wemby's 7'4 and hitting step backs. Lets not overdo it
I don't want Ingram, defense or shooting.
How tall is Anthony Edwards? My point is for his size, just like Wemby, we normally don't have players with that type of skill set at 7 feet tall.
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6 minutes ago, KB21 said:
Quick Hawks specific draft board:
Alexander Sarr
Zacharrie Risacher
Stephon Castle
I've been soo jaded this last season that I have't kept up with the European players. After the Spurs got Wemby I was done. Sarr has got me excited. I'm gonna look at these other European players.
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As much as we clown Capela, at LEAST he can pick and roll. Edey will get beat to his spot in the pick and roll in the NBA.
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10 minutes ago, MaceCase said:
Supes, you’re doing a terrible job here. You need to be hyping Sarr up like he’s a mini Wemby so we can manufacture a bidding war.
Heck, from what I see he might be as good or better eventually than Wemby. Look at the film on him. I said MIGHT. Wemby is no joke but I'm seeing the same skillset in Sarr.
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10 minutes ago, Mikey said:Like i said hes not a 5 and lucky for us we have a cost controlled player to do that for years to come. Onykea compliments him as much as he compliments Onykea. A good situation to be in
You don't have to defend Sarr. Anybody without a agenda can see he is the dude. No team really deploys a traditional "5" in the NBA. Edey is not going high in the draft. If you can't stretch the floor or at least be able to play in space, you are of no use in the NBA today as a "traditional" big.
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22 minutes ago, Sothron said:
Dude looks good!
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NBA insider details Trae Young’s poor rep around league, why Hawks will have to ‘settle’ for far less or move Dejounte Murray instead
The three-time All-Star would seem like an easy player to move because of his elite talent as an offensive player. However, during a conversation with Sportsnaut this week, NBC Sports Senior Writer Kurt Helin revealed the poor opinion talent evaluators around the NBA have about Young heading into his seventh season in the league.
“They are going to try hard to trade Trae Young. That’s going to happen,” Helin claimed. “But from people I’ve talked to around the league these calls often go something like this, ‘Trae Young, yea, what would that [trade] look like? By the way, is Dejounte available?’ People in the league just like Dejounte’s game better.
“Where Trae Young doesn’t defend, demands the ball; he scores a lot of points, gets a lot of assists, will bring your offense up — he’s an All-Star [and] borderline All-NBA offensive player — but there’s a sense that you can’t really build a true winner around him,” he added. “You could with Dejounte. They’ve got to move one of them, it obviously doesn’t work. But it’s going to be interesting to see what they might ultimately have to settle for to move Trae.”
There have been rumblings for months that Young’s value around the league has fallen greatly from a peak when he led the team to the Eastern Conference Finals in 2021. It also probably explains why the Hawks reportedly had a high asking price for Murray before the deadline because they were aware he had more value around the game.
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Meh. Go straight at him.
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6 minutes ago, AHF said:
Would be great but we would definitely need more depth at PF in this scenario. Hunter isn't really a viable option there and both JJ and Hunter are significant injury risks.
Can't have everything, lmao
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10 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:
Pretty sure we can all stop dreaming about Herb Jones -- literally every team in the league could use that guy, the hardest type of role player to find (lock down defender and good shooter) and he's on a ridiculously team friendly contract. He might be the most valuable player in the league. And he's under contract through 2027. No way NO has him on the table for anything other than a blue chip two-way superstar
The other way of looking at is this: What have they won WITH Herb Jones and that stacked roster? They have a need that Jones can't provide and thats called "point guard". Sometimes its not about the player but the team. I'm pretty sure the Pelicans would want to keep both Ingram and Jones but what other team has the asset they NEED other than the Hawks? It takes a BIG name to manage Zion and that crew. I'm not disagreeing with you but there IS a reason for the Pelicans to consider it. A team with very good players but no point guard is like a Benz with no engine.
A side note factor in this is this: Last season and maybe this season before the trade deadline, the Pelicans would have asked for Jalen Johnson in ANY deal just like the rest of the NBA. With Johnson showing a propensity for being injured, I'm not so sure thats the case anymore which works in the Hawks favor.
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10 minutes ago, AHF said:
The fit is there to help both teams.
Can you imagine the versatility and defensive acumen of this roster if the Hawks could pull this off? I'm letting the Pelicans have Bufkin in this along with DJM. I want Hunter off the bench where he excelled this season. You can flip flop Daniels and Bogi at shooting guard.
pg Young, Daniels
sg Bogi, Daniels, Jones
sf Jones, Hunter, Johnson
pf Johnson, Hunter
c Capela, OO, Bruno
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Just now, KB21 said:
I wonder if the Hawks are going to attempt to tinker with deferred money as a way to stay under the luxury tax.
I don't follow the NBA collective bargaining agreement or NBA rules as far as the cap because it would take a college degree. If thats a possibility and needed, that would be the way to go. Thats how it is done in the NFL.
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5 minutes ago, AHF said:
There is a difference between someone who is responsible for cap issues and someone who is really good at exploiting the rules. I haven't seen any sign that we have someone who fits in the latter category.
You must mean the Falcons and their tampering? lmao
On a serious note, CAN you get around the luxury tax?
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I can't wait until Trae is gone.