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  1. 13 minutes ago, NekiEcko said:

    Actually, I would rather trade both and start anew.

    I have to agree with Supers on this, due to two questions my friend from the Pacific Northwest asked me yesterday, which really resonated with me.

    1. Even with the first pick, will the Hawks be a play-in team or a deep playoff run team next year, even with all of the changes?

     

    If you draft Edey, Clingan, etc.  you will not even be a "play in" team.

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  2. 31 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

    So where do we stand now on the BI/Daniels/#21 for DJM and Clint deal?  Could that still happen?  Would the Hawks be more or less likely to include OO now?  

    Would y'all like a roster that looks something like this:

    Trae/Daniels/BI/JJ/OO

    Kobe/Bogi/Hunter/Mo/Sarr

    Vit/AJ/ 21 and vets

     

    Guards: Trae / Daniels / Kobe / Bogi / Vit  

    Wings:  BI / Hunter / AJ / Bogi / Vit / Vet

    Bigs:  JJ / OO / Mo / Sarr / Ware at 21? / Vets

     

    I like the versatility of this, but would want a quality back up big vet as well.  

     

    You kept Murray and Trade Trae.  Trae is not gonna want to give up the spotlight.  Murray, Ingram, Sarr, Johnson.  Thats winning the East right there.  TEAM comes first.

  3. 4 hours ago, ryandauwalker said:

    I have never bought into the notion of Trae being on the move… he has seemed loyal to ATL, and the decision to ship him off somewhere has never made sense. However, now it actually does with two years left before his player option, and he could leave for nothing.


    Trae’s silence in the midst of one of the luckiest moments in Hawks history alongside true NBA folks saying he might be on the move have me thinking he actually may not be on the roster next season. Hard to believe, but I think we are here.

    He normally all over tweeter webs whenever the Hawks have done something big.

     

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    3 hours ago, Diesel said:

    Knowing the the draft is rigged.. and usually the NBA uses it to make up for major moves...   Trae may be on the move. 

    THIS... I immediately starting trying to piece the moves together after the Hawks "won" the draft lottery.  Trae most likely with either the Lakers or Pelicans next season.

  4. 19 minutes ago, KB21 said:

    "His rim protection was especially important for Perth, a team that was downright atrocious at containing driblle penetration and needed Sarr to do a lot as a help defender around the basket. He was routinely acting as low man, rotating from the weak side corner to contest shots."

    I mean, if this don't describe what the Hawks need, nothing else will.

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  5. 6 minutes ago, KB21 said:

    Quick Hawks specific draft board:

    Alexander Sarr

    Zacharrie Risacher

    Stephon Castle

    I've been soo jaded this last season that I have't kept up with the European players.  After the Spurs got Wemby I was done.  Sarr has got me excited. I'm gonna look at these other European players.

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  6. 10 minutes ago, MaceCase said:

    Supes, you’re doing a terrible job here.  You need to be hyping Sarr up like he’s a mini Wemby so we can manufacture a bidding war.

    Heck, from what I see he might be as good or better eventually than Wemby.  Look at the film on him.  I said MIGHT.  Wemby is no joke but I'm seeing the same skillset in Sarr.

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    https://sportsnaut.com/trae-young-poor-rep-difficulty-of-hawks-trade/#:~:text=NBA-,NBA insider details Trae Young's poor rep around league%2C why,or move Dejounte Murray instead&text=If the Atlanta Hawks plan,value than the homegrown star.

    NBA insider details Trae Young’s poor rep around league, why Hawks will have to ‘settle’ for far less or move Dejounte Murray instead

    The three-time All-Star would seem like an easy player to move because of his elite talent as an offensive player. However, during a conversation with Sportsnaut this week, NBC Sports Senior Writer Kurt Helin revealed the poor opinion talent evaluators around the NBA have about Young heading into his seventh season in the league.

     

    “They are going to try hard to trade Trae Young. That’s going to happen,” Helin claimed. “But from people I’ve talked to around the league these calls often go something like this, ‘Trae Young, yea, what would that [trade] look like? By the way, is Dejounte available?’ People in the league just like Dejounte’s game better.

    “Where Trae Young doesn’t defend, demands the ball; he scores a lot of points, gets a lot of assists, will bring your offense up — he’s an All-Star [and] borderline All-NBA offensive player — but there’s a sense that you can’t really build a true winner around him,” he added. “You could with Dejounte. They’ve got to move one of them, it obviously doesn’t work. But it’s going to be interesting to see what they might ultimately have to settle for to move Trae.”

    There have been rumblings for months that Young’s value around the league has fallen greatly from a peak when he led the team to the Eastern Conference Finals in 2021. It also probably explains why the Hawks reportedly had a high asking price for Murray before the deadline because they were aware he had more value around the game.

     

     

     

  8. 10 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

    Pretty sure we can all stop dreaming about Herb Jones -- literally every team in the league could use that guy, the hardest type of role player to find (lock down defender and good shooter) and he's on a ridiculously team friendly contract.  He might be the most valuable player in the league.  And he's under contract through 2027.  No way NO has him on the table for anything other than a blue chip two-way superstar

    The other way of looking at is this:  What have they won WITH Herb Jones and that stacked roster?  They have a need that Jones can't provide and thats called "point guard".  Sometimes its not about the player but the team.  I'm pretty sure the Pelicans would want to keep both Ingram and Jones but what other team has the asset they NEED other than the Hawks?  It takes a BIG name to manage Zion and that crew.  I'm not disagreeing with you but there IS a reason for the Pelicans to consider it.  A team with very good players but no point guard is like a Benz with no engine. 

    A side note factor in this is this:  Last season and maybe this season before the trade deadline, the Pelicans would have asked for Jalen Johnson in ANY deal just like the rest of the NBA. With Johnson showing a propensity for being injured, I'm not so sure thats the case anymore which works in the Hawks favor.

  9. 10 minutes ago, AHF said:

    The fit is there to help both teams.

    Can you imagine the versatility and defensive acumen of this roster if the Hawks could pull this off?  I'm letting the Pelicans have Bufkin in this along with DJM.  I want Hunter off the bench where he excelled this season.  You can flip flop Daniels and Bogi at shooting guard.

    pg Young, Daniels

    sg Bogi, Daniels, Jones

    sf Jones, Hunter, Johnson

    pf Johnson, Hunter

    c Capela, OO, Bruno

  10. Just now, KB21 said:

    I wonder if the Hawks are going to attempt to tinker with deferred money as a way to stay under the luxury tax.

     

    I don't follow the NBA collective bargaining agreement or NBA rules as far as the cap because it would take a college degree.  If thats a possibility and needed, that would be the way to go.  Thats how it is done in the NFL.

  11. 5 minutes ago, AHF said:

    There is a difference between someone who is responsible for cap issues and someone who is really good at exploiting the rules.  I haven't seen any sign that we have someone who fits in the latter category.

    You must mean the Falcons and their tampering? lmao

    On a serious note, CAN you get around the luxury tax?

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