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9 hours ago, KB21 said:

...and I'm not going to budge.  At all.

That’s a concrete interpretation of what I meant by concrete.  Lol.  

3 minutes ago, KB21 said:

They have won 50 games this year?  This must be some of that new math they are teaching in schools.

You are impressively concrete.  

8 hours ago, High5 said:

They tanked 4 years and now they're going to win 48-50 games with three All-Star+ talents at 19, 21, and 24. They're also getting LA's lottery pick and they can create a ton of cap space. They're only going to get much better with any luck in the health department. 

Low-level playoff team would be us last season. 43 wins with a maxed out roster. But I'm sure Sixers fans would trade for that "winning culture" in a heartbeat. 

If Philly goes to the ECF this year, KB will still be saying that tanking didn't work.  They could have a 3-ring dynasty in 5 years and he will be shaking his fist at their success.  

Game of the night is Mavs vs Kings.  Go Mavs!

3 hours ago, DBac said:

Philly is the light at the end of the tunnel. Man they have arrived.

2 hours ago, Guard said:

It still blows my mind that Philly is going to add another lottery talent to the best young core in the NBA. I don’t think even Bryan Colangelo can mess this up and he’s terrible. 

Don’t tell KB.  He is choking on his own bile, screaming hysterically to all that will listen that Philly is proof positive that “tanking doesn’t work”

Ok, so I can’t see us winning more than 1 game the rest of the way.  Orlando has its next 5 games against teams with < 25 wins, so they should win a game.  We need Dallas to win one more and that should lock us into #3.  

Who should we root for in the Suns-Magic game tonight?  I’d say Magic because I don’t think we will catch the Suns either way.  

90% of tanking happens at the admin/executive level.  The GM guts the roster and releases/trades high performers who don't figure into long-term plans.  If we drop to the 6-8 level, it will be on Schlenk for not trading Dedmon and others.  The other 10% of tanking happens at the coaching level, and it involves benching good players.  This last part is highly dependent on the coach, and I would expect Bud to be too competitive to want any part of it.  

124 pages in, we still haven't answered the question:  should we tank?

I vote yes. 

11 hours ago, AHF said:

That will leave a lot more team in the position the Nets have been the last few years.  Worst team in the league last season?  Enjoy the 30th pick.

Defending champs when LeBron2.0 emerges?  You got lucky and get him.  

Yeah if we’re going to do a random draft, we should just make a hard cap, remove individual player caps, and make all draftees free agents.  You’d still have tanking because teams would gut their rosters trying to sign LeBron 2.0.  

Or we could do something like having the lottery extend to the 5th seeds and below in the playoffs with less weighting toward the top few teams.  

How about this?  Teams 1-9 enter an even chances lottery for the top pick.  After that, teams 10-14 join the remaining teams for a draw for #2.  After that, teams 15-19 join for a draw for the #3 Pick.  Really hard to justify a full on tank in this system.  This is my current fave.  

15 hours ago, KB21 said:

The broken record is the “tanking is great” crowd.  

Or....OR....the broken record is your uncharitable strawman representation of the “tank crowd”.  Tanking sucks, but I find it preferable to winning 40 games with an old and overpaid roster with no prospects for substantial improvement.  It’s ok to disagree with me and other people who think like I do, but stop with the shallow and self-serving mischaracterizations.  

2 hours ago, Diesel said:

Damn.  is this post back from the time when BK became GM?  It sounds eerily the same.  Except it was "I see a new GM that had to undo what Babcock did". 

Babcock was horrible and he invested lots of time, picks, and money into building a losing veteran team.  BK did have to undo what Babcock did, and he got the first part right.  He tanked real good.  His problem was that he was horrible at the draft and his vision for the team was gimmicky.  But, at the time of our 13-win season, it would’ve been correct to defend him against rash judgments. 

37 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

That's just someone's opinion

Everything on here is just someone’s opinion, including all of your opinionated posts.  It seems like you just want to be argumentative rather than discuss the Hawks.  

Those tweets probably won’t age well.  Quinn Cook has, thus far, been a replacement-level NBA player.  He got hot for one game against one of the league’s worst teams.  The difference between a “breakout” and a fluke is what happens down the road.  You can only call a breakout game in hindsight.  

Are we rooting for the Grizzlies?  Another win by the Bulls puts them out of reach, but a win by the Grizz makes #1 reachable. Decisions....

Bud must have delivered a mighty inspirational halftime speech.  These guys are totally sandbagging in the second half.  

This is shaping up to be another clutch third quarter.  You get the feeling that the team senses the importance of this game and has rallied around Bud to mail it in.  Proud of these guys.  

Hornets have Dwight Howard so they are, by definition, just a couple moves away from being a championship contender.  

4 minutes ago, AHF said:

What you described just is exactly how Miami built their team.  They won 25 games and drafted their great player.  He elevated their team from the top of the draft to the middle of the draft.  They then flipped a lottery pick from a 36 win season to get Shaq.  They won a ring.  This improved their reputation as a franchise and bolstered Wade's appeal as he was the obvious key player for that ring (that is what averaging ~35, 7 and 3 in the finals looks like).  

When other stars wanted to team up, they then moved to Miami and their version of a wholly trinity made a bunch more finals and won more rings.

There was literally not a single player on the Heat roster prior to them drafting Wade who was on that championship team.

The answer is obviously to be the Lakers.  That’s the alternative to the tank model.  

Kings won last night, too.  Huge night for us.  Now let’s not go and blow it with a careless win tonight.  

Huge win by the magic tonight.  Things shaping up nicely for us.  We control our own destiny for top 3.  

Last night’s loss was clutch.  We had a double-digit halftime lead and dismantled it in short order with just a few minutes of the third quarter.  Losses like that show this team’s mettle.  It will take a few more to finish what we started, but we can see the light at the end of the tank tunnel now.  Do it hawks!