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hehe I have a feeling you already know.

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I take that back that was Hakan Demirel with the moves, but Akyol was good too. But, couple of game recaps from those games last year A magnificent team of Turkey got a surprise blowout of a lackluster Serbia & Montenegro 76-56. They trailed in only the first quarter and were carried on the big shoulders of their center, Oguz Savas, who scored his tournament-high 19 points on 8/10 shooting. Cenk Akyol contributed big as well with 17 points, 7 rebounds and 4 assists. It was a good beginning for the Serbians, as they led by 5 after a few (14-9, 6 by Aleksandrov): there, Polat Kaya exploded driving an 11-0 run covering the first and the second quarter: Semih Erden bolstered the defense, Cenk Akyol ran the offense (12 with 5/8 in first half) and Turkey began to break away 22-30. Aleksandrov got two buckets in the fastbreak, so SCG could end with just a 9-point deficit the first 20 minutes (26-35). Turkey accelerated again in the third, reaching +13 leads twice and +14 with Kaya (38-52). Aleksandrov converted a triple and two ft’s (16+9 overall), but after Serbia cut the deficit to 6 points (47-53), Akyol scored an inside shot at 24-sec buzzer and Kaya sank a three (47-58, min 33). So it’s over, Serbian gave up definitively closing the match with a 0-14 run, guided by Hakan Demirel (12, 6 assists, 6 steals). Tomorrow Turkey will face France in front of their NT coach Bogdan Tanjevic. ---------------------------------------------------------- Turkey managed 40 minutes and took a handy 73-64 win over Bulgaria. The first quarter was the key, with Izic’s band leading with a score of 36 and allowing 17. That was Hakan Demirel’s time as he finished with 15 (5/6) in first half. Bulgaria resisted with Deian Ivanov only (14 in 20’) but needed a second-shooter: he appeared in only the second half, as Slaveykov scored 11, but Turkey’s guard Cenk Akyol sank all the clutch shots finishing with a game-high 23 points.

i'we seen a game from a european under 18 tournament where he played for turkey. he was nuts. he's got mad handle and can break out some and1 moves easy. great prospect for couple of years down the road.

Well, I know it ain't much, but.... my friend works at the gym at U of Akron, and he watched Lebron, Chris Paul, Josh Smith, and Tayshaun Prince's brother(?!) shoot around/practice. He says that paul is definitely 6 foot tall, maybe even taller so that's prolly good news. But he says that he shoots kinda low from his chest, and he thinks he'll get his shot blocked a lot. that's it. bogut or paul??

hawks = zilch okafor, gordon and howard got majority of the votes. After them it was Igoudala with 10 pts, and JR smith and Deng with 1 pt each.

From: Mercury City: Clare, Mi USA Subject: Atlanta offer Comments: According to a couple of posters in Atlanta they heard that Billy Knight offered to trade Al Harrington and their draft pick for Darko and filler (assumed to be Hunter)... Since I can't find the original source I'll treat this as speculation at this point. I could understand the reasoning from Atlanta's perspective... they have Harrington signed for one more year... Woody may believe in Darko from what he's seen in practice (and the recent game)... The question is does this make sense for Detroit? A couple scenarios where it does make sense would be if LB plans on staying for a while and doesn't „see it” from DM... or Darko has made demands knowing he's locked on the bench as long as X2 is still around Darko and Hunter for Harrington and the 1st pick in the draft (Bogut or Marvin Williams)... Make sense or no?

Philly you forgot undrafted HS players when you were listing those. Lenny Cooke, Jackie Butler off the top of my head, but there were more. Also when you compared Deshawn Stevensons class and mentioned Cooke, Bell and Howard you failed to mention the college players that left early for the NBA, after 1,2 or 3 years in college. There were also many European players coming into the league that were 20 and under: Biedrins, Milicic, Sztiskitishvili, Pavlovic, Podkolzine, Planinic and more. This rule hurts the Europeans just as much. Because when their junior contracts expire they will prolly be forced to sign long term contracts with large buy-outs that they will end up paying if they want to come to the NBA, as the NBA team can only pay 350,000.

bad defense bad offense. coaching to blame. always a man open for an easy hoop for opponents. no movement on offense. silas was a stubborn bastard refused to play pavlovic and jackson even tho they're the best 3point shooters on the team. welch sucks balls, can't shoot, not worth a second rounder let alone 1st. Harris can't shoot and that's his only job. McGinnis is acting jailblazerish. Lebron playing one on one while everybody watches.

and don't forget CABARKAPA

At the biggining of the season Silas was unhappy with Gooden so he was playing Traylor a lot, like 35 minutes, some games Gooden wouldn't get of the bench after the 1st quarter. But lately he hasn't been playing at all. Wagner has colitis and is out for the season, perhaps more. Pavlovic and Jackson should have received majority of minutes at 2-3, at least from the bench. Pavlovic has started a few games in Utah last year, and he improved his shooting this year. He also played well when starting in Cleveland. He prolly should be playing around 20mpg at least.

Luke was healthy for the 1st 30 games or so. At the beggining of season Silas was rotating Jackson, Pavlovic, and Wagner(before he got hurt too) with one guy on the IL and 2 on the roster getting garbage time. Traylor, has plenty of skills and is a good rebounder, he is also in shape, and would be good playing 15 to 20 minutes a game as a bench player. I know so cos I'm in Cleveland.

He doesn't play his bench that is the problem. Pavlovic played very well when he was starting. Luke Jackson should have gotten way more playing time as he was ready to contribute. He kept pushing Harris (no word to express how bad he is), and Newble. Also needs to play Traylor more and Varejao.

He is very underrated and would be a good pick up, as a role player.

Ailene Voisin: Not a spur of moment to trade Webber By Ailene Voisin -- Bee Columnist Published 2:15 am PST Thursday, February 24, 2005 Of all his moves these past several years, this was the most improbable, what many have said was impossible, and what will surely be the most controversial. And while Geoff Petrie will say that the opportunity for the Kings to become moderately younger, deeper and more committed to defense presented itself only in the final, frenzied hours before the deadline, in reality, trading Chris Webber was a year-long plot. Reduce the risk of another crippling injury. Change the team dynamic. Improve the defense. Establish Mike Bibby, Brad Miller and Peja Stojakovic as the three-tiered foundation of a franchise that these past several weeks, perhaps even months, seemed destined for a first-round playoff elimination. The thrill was gone. Time to move on. ”We felt we wanted to make a change in direction,„ an exhausted Petrie said late Wednesday night, ”and we're obviously doing that. Collectively, we've got plenty of firepower, assuming Peja (sore hamstring) gets back pretty quick. But I have to tell you, I have a sense of sadness about the whole thing.„ Was there one particular moment that prompted the deal that sent the team's most talented player and his $80 million contract to the Philadelphia 76ers? One specific incident? One injury-induced absence that convinced Petrie - who in turn persuaded co-owners Joe and Gavin Maloof - to acquire three 76ers, none of whom remotely resembles Webber in skills or stature? No, there were several. This was the gradual erosion of a once mutually beneficial relationship. There was the night Webber shredded his knee and was forced to undergo a career-altering procedure. There was the eight-game suspension a year ago for lying to a grand jury and violating the league's anti-substance abuse policy. There was his refusal to blend with a unit that, this time last season, was rolling along as efficiently as the old New York Knicks, instead dooming them to a lousy finish and locker room discord that extended into the offseason. There also were Webber's subsequent comments questioning the toughness and commitment of his teammates - this despite his own occasional transgressions, including his departure during the third quarter of a recent game at Arco - along with his perplexing, persistent reluctance to involve Stojakovic in the offense. Mostly there were the numbers, his versus theirs. The Kings owed Webber huge dollars over the next four years, which given his fluctuating impact and often debilitating influence, was a shaky long-term investment. With Webber these past two regular seasons, the Kings were 38-31. Without him, they were 51-16. This is not to suggest that this is a one-sided deal. Quite the contrary. Both teams were strengthened in different ways. The 76ers granted diminutive Allen Iverson his wish with the addition of a prolific scorer, a hybrid forward whose game has moved away from the basket and toward the perimeter, yet who remains capable of scoring down low when so inclined. In exchange, the Kings obtained a frontcourt combination of depth, athleticism and muscle, including an experienced low-post presence with the return of reserve forward Corliss Williamson. And though this trade figures to split the city into two vocal and disparate camps - the pro-Webber vs. anti-Webber factions - the environment around Arco had become toxic. Webber ran the show. Webber was too powerful, too influential, too forceful for his own coach. He said all the right things and then proceeded to do whatever he wanted. Monopolize the ball. Dominate his teammates, though perhaps not consciously. Fail to defend the basket. He filled a box score like few others, yet intuitively and consistently failed to grasp the nuances of winning. Had Webber, 31, accepted his physical limitations and exploited his still-extraordinary assets that include fabulous hands and uncanny passing, the width to set withering screens, the presence of teammates with their own versatile scoring talents, he might have been a King for life. He might have been worth the gamble posed by a creaky knee that will only worsen with time. Instead, he lived in the past, forcing the Kings to move ahead. Now the pressure swings to Stojakovic, who has no more excuses, and to Rick Adelman, who has to demand more from his players in terms of defense, rebounding and effort. This is Webber's team no longer. These are new times. I wonder if maybe that could be the reason why he was dealt besides his big salary contract. Maybe we are just seeing one side of the story and not the whole story. I'm just guessing.”

Not to mention that webber was playing on one leg and every PF on the oposing team had a career night against sacramento. With all the respect to mike bibby, webber was their worst defensive player. This also releases webber's stranglehold on the offense. Kenny thomas averaged a double double last year he can easily do that in sac-town as they need someone to play d and clean the glass. Contracts are a little outrages, but they'll prolly have a chance to move some of them in future trades. I am sure that this will make sacramento a better team, and instead of a first round exit perhaps buy them a few more wins in the playoffs. Webber was truly a cancer for the team and a Vince Carter of the West. Good Riddance. Article by the way: http://www.sacbee.com/content/sport...-13298692c.html

Hey, he's still second best center in the league. It's just he doesn't have the intensity, and the aggression that the top players have, to be able to dominate. He's got all the skills and gifts, but he's just too tame. He's still prolly gonna be at 18 ppg, 9 rebs, and around 2 blocks for the next 7-8 years, tho.

No need promoting and hyping anything. Basketball is a great game in itself. What they need to do is restrict some of the players wages, so that way, the owners wouldn't be losing money and raising the ticket prices sky high, so some real fans can afford them and come in watch the game, and make a real atmosphere. Not bunch of corporate asshalls, that need to be 'SOLD" on the game.

I think Walker should make the All Star team. East is really, really weak at the F positions Walker should be a shoe in. There is really only 5 forwards worthy in the east: Walker, Jamison, Jefferson, Hill, and O'neal (even tho he's suspended). I think Vince should not go as he is a giant ?ussy. Harrington is not having an allstar worthy season. So I give Walker my vote.

Yeah, GHill is awesome. I loved to watch him play back in the day with the pistons. Hope to catch a few Orlando games this year. Would you just for kicks want to see something like an All-Comeback team play. Would be an interesting roster: PG Jay Williams SG Penny Hardaway SF Grant Hill PF McDyess C Mourning Bench: Demarr Michael Dickerson ........and Big Country Reeves as a token white guy.

how bout players burried on the end of the bench. go after David West, and Ron Murray, etc.

It's a nice plan, but in those 2 years when Hawks get couple of lottery players, those lotto picks will need 2-3 years to develop (cos kids r getting drafted younger and younger), and will result in more bad years. Few FA's will be overpaid also, out of desperation, from the rejection of the major ones. Then the managment will get impatient and will pronounce the project dead and will rebuild again sending the franchise to the perrils of Clipperdom. Bulls are the prime example. U need quality FA's and ready to contribute draft picks. Shaky proposition.

haha, real funny, last year, round draft time, I pronounced him SOD (steal of the draft). I am the smartest man alive.

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