djjob23

Schedule coming within the next hour! I know this is likely staged, but gotta love Mo’s reaction and reaching out to Seth to keep him in the loop! 

8 minutes ago, AHF said:

I think he was someone Landry decided was not going to be on the roster this year.  If we already have 15 guaranteed contracts, that means he must be cut before the year starts unless we reduce our guaranteed contracts.  If you know he won’t make the cut, let him go try to find a spot somewhere else.

Fair enough. If we’re at this point, then we must be completely out of any consolidation trades/roster upgrades. If that’s the case, then we must be going ALL IN on our youth development! Hope everybody does their homework this off-season and comes into camp meeting expectations. If not and we have a slow start (like we’ve had these past few years), we may be playing with fire and Trae rumors from the media. Yuck!

6 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

Looks like they are working on moving OO to the 4. Makes sense with the JC move, and his shot looks great here! Hope it translates to the regular season, because if not, a frontcourt of OO and CC may be tough to watch. Keep up the great work OO! 

3 hours ago, thecampster said:

Waiving VIT creates space under the 2nd LT line. Renouncing Trent Forrest would clear up another 1.8 million (stay with me here).  The space created in trading both would leave us a near 24 million under the super apron. Almost exactly the amount available in the JC trade exception.

I don't think they'd use it here but I do think they'd potentially use it at the trade deadline if we are competing.

But why do this now and not closer to the deadline then? Is it a favor to Vit so he can get more playing time somewhere else? Was he not valuable enough to trade for some fake 2nds or even cash consideration (his next team is gonna LOVE him!)? If a move isn’t made before October, then this smells like cheap ownership to me regardless of it we use the TPE at deadline.

Spike Lee must be a glutton for punishment. Spotted and grilled at the Braves game (Truist Park) watching Atlanta sports OWN New York!  

Hmmm… this is pretty good company.  

11 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Unless that player's name is Trae Young.

So sad… but true. For some reason only 1 of Luka/Trae is allowed to be praised because the media NEEDS to have winners and losers and not just prop up amazing talent.

If I were Trae, I’d take Gilbert’s advice and start sending flowers to coaches/media. It’s politics baby! 

2 hours ago, theheroatl said:

https://x.com/basketnews_com/status/1691511495811624960

 

Celtics are screwed for the next 3 years 

Yep! Feet issues on 7 footers are never a good thing. Want to see KP do well, but not in clover green. 

Why are the Hawks even on this list…  

Vit did it again! This guy… I like this guy…

Here are his highlights. The whip pass cross court @ 1:50 mark… so good!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BRUNO!!!

Thanks @JayBirdHawk and @macdaddy! When troubleshooting, it looks like the Twitter/X App on iPhone has the link as the following when you click share > copy link in the app (not working):

• https://x.com/atlhawks/status/1691435593933213696?s=46&t=8v2t8Tg0a87E2l7bs0NAiw

However, when opening the tweet in a web browser (whether desktop, tablet, or mobile), the domain is still twitter.com and clicking share > copy link to post in a web browser works (the copied link is still using twitter.com). Relative URL below (add “https://twitter.com” to this relative URL below and the tweet embeds successfully):

• /ATLHawks/status/1691435593933213696?s=20

Here’s this relative URL (browser > twitter.com > tweet > share > copy link) working successfully using the twitter.com domain:

This looks to just be an issue when trying to embed tweets from the app (or x.com), but tweet embeds still work if you are able to copy the tweet link from twitter.com on a web browser. There may be a problem embedding tweets once the browser domain switches over to x.com, but we’ll see.

Thanks y’all for your help!

@capstone21 Not sure why, but I’m having trouble embedding tweets (example below). When I go to Twitter/X app, I click share > copy link, then paste link directly into the post editor (this was working a couple days ago). Not working in default skin either. Is this only an issue on my end? If not, could it be related to the domain on tweet embeds changing from Twitter.com to x.com? Thanks in advance for your help and am looking forward to your reply!

https://x.com/atlhawks/status/1691435593933213696?s=46&t=8v2t8Tg0a87E2l7bs0NAiw

2 minutes ago, Diesel said:

That could be a thing.  Unfortunately assists are subjective... Just like somebody calling travelling.   I view Trae as the Unicorn because he gets assists like Nash but his scoring is top 10 in the league.   Nash never scored much.   I think he never had a season in the 20s... I may be wrong.    But if you think about the fact that he won 2 MVPs and Trae is a better scorer, just as good an assist guy and his team wins but not as stacked... and Trae has trouble getting on the all NBA team... it makes you question the subjectiveness of those All NBA teams. 

 

OH 100%! The Trae hate is real and the decision makers for those awards already made their minds up after the 1st half of his rookie season. When Trae had a slow start compared to Luka’s (primed off of Euroleague competition), there could only be 1 winner and they want it that way to not look like fools.

22 minutes ago, Diesel said:

His 3pt% was much higher than Trae's (~43% for his career).   Can you imagine the gravity he would exploit?  His assists totals was a little better also (~11 apg in his prime). 

Agreed! If he could keep up his 3p% with more shots and todays perimeter defense, it would truly be amazing to watch. I do wonder if Nash’s assist numbers would go up in today’s era. The assist stat is quite subjective and during his era there was speculation that assists were counted more often during home games (begging the question on whether assists were counted more leniently during home games). Not to say Nash’s assist counts weren’t accurate, but he played in an era where others (like Jason Kidd & Chris Paul) are questioned for some of their assist numbers.

14 minutes ago, Diesel said:

It's disrespectful to lump Shaq in with Dwight Howard.  It was nothing for Shaq to average 29 and 13 in his prime... with FG% around 60%.  A few years ago we saw the dominance of Zion Williamson.    Well Zion is 6'6".   Shaq is 7'1.  Whatever Zion thought was dominant, Shaq did 10 times over.  Shaq would hold this era in the palm of his hand because he would be the most physical player and nobody would be able to stop him.  Dwight Howard was never the offensive engine that Shaq was and he never took the game serious.  Dwight's best year, he was 22.9 ppg.  That's Shaq taking it easy. 

The Dwight comparison was in relation to offensive fouls due to his strength (never said Shaq would be like Dwight Howard). Shaq’s game was bully dominant and that wouldn’t fly in today’s era. Shaq would definitely be more productive than Dwight,, but wouldn’t be more successful than he was in his era. Zion has more finesse in his game than Dwight or Shaq and would likely have a more successful career in todays era (if he could stay healthy).

5 hours ago, Diesel said:

Shaq was not immediately dominant in Jordan's era.  At least towards a championship. 

Jordan definitely would be a 40-50 ppg player in this era.

But I wouldn't dismiss Nash so much.   IN 2007-2008, he shot 47% from 3 on 4 attempts per game.   In this era, he would be expected to shoot more threes.   That has the makings of a monster. 

 

100%. My hierarchy of who would be more successful:

1. Jordan in LeBron’s era: Offense would be tremendous due to hand checking, but I do believe he’d struggle more on defense. Regardless, it’s Jordan, he’s too competitive to not be the greatest.
2. Nash in today’s era: 7-8 3’s per game, yes please. He’d have similar impacts like Trae Young today.
3. LeBron in Jordan’s era: Less 3 point shooting plays to his strengths. Would love to see him play without the hand checking rule and wonder if he’d have as long of a career.
4. Curry in Jordan’s era: less 3’s and not sure if he’d be athletic enough for this era. 
5. Shaq in today’s era: Today’s game needs players like this again, but his glaring FT weakness (hack a Shaq) would be exploited. His muscles would become a weakness (like we saw with Dwight Howard) and a lot of offensive fouls would likely be called in a weaker era.

What do they know that we don’t…  

https://x.com/bookies/status/1691105432717389824?s=46&t=8v2t8Tg0a87E2l7bs0NAiw

Tweet embeds aren’t working for me, but it has betting odds for James Harden’s next team:

LAC: +500

ATL: +550 (WHAT?!?)

MIN: +650

PHI: +750

MIA: +800

On 8/12/2023 at 6:34 PM, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

Fun. Guess we’ll be tuning into this soap opera for the rest of the off-season. Spoiler alert: Harden will do the same thing he did in Houston before he was traded to Brooklyn. Such babies.

1 hour ago, Spud2nique said:

Some folks prolly wanna fight you for having him this low. Prolly the same folks who were making a huge deal out of calling Okongwu Big O.  

 

Oscar, now this is a top 3-5 player which i would have loved to see live. A triple double machine before they even started recording them is equivalent to Deacon Jones and his infinity sacks. I mean they went back and counted Oscar’s games but having never even been in the back of his mind that triple doubles would be glorified after he retired is impressive.

Much respect sir!

Yes, wish I could’ve watched Big O live as well! After doing a deeper dive, I agree I’m being too harsh on Big O. If I want to stay true to my generational filter, I could absolutely see an argument moving Big O as high as 9! Although he wasn’t known for his defense, he did improve in that area and the Royals went to the playoffs when he was Top 20 in DWS (on a bad team). Add his elite offense/playmakingn (triple-double machine) and you have a recipe for a Top 10 All Time player. 

5 hours ago, Gray Mule said:

on the Atlanta Hawks official roster, Mo Gueye is listed as 6'11" and 210 lbs.  He passes the eye test for this in summer league.

I have shingles now.  I ask for your prayers.  

Dang. Thoughts and prayers GM. Here’s to a speedy and full recovery!

10 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

You wanna lead the way for 11-20? It’s your world dawg! I’m already thinking about my list.  

I’M IN! Let’s do it! 

djjob23’s Top 11-20 All Time:

11. Hakeem “The Dream” Olajuwon
12. Kobe “Mamba” Bryant
13. Jerry “Mr. Clutch” West
14. Oscar “Big O” Robertson
15. Kevin “KD” Durant
16. Moses “Chairman of the Boards” Malone
17. Kevin “Big Ticket” Garnett
18. Dirk “German Wunderkind” Nowitzki
19. Julius “Dr. J” Erving
20. Karl “Mailman” Malone

Is Karl really that low for me? Would he have been as great without Stockton feeding him? I dunno, but today he’s this low.

8 hours ago, djjob23 said:

Hope Philly is ready for another year of the FT show (if he suits up that is)!

 

Har en’s highlights from his prime in Houston!