NineOhTheRino

More Al and less Josh would be nice.

people (me included) being hard on Josh today. I feel sorry for the guy. No collage, he's still young, and he's only had 1 real coach so what should we expcet?

“Our shots weren’t going down and we had too many turnovers,” Hawks point guard Mike Bibby said. “It wasn’t like we weren’t going inside, but our shots weren’t falling. Ron did a good job. He took over the game and he made the plays down the stretch.”

Horford was solid. He was hitting that mid-range jumper all night.

But is it not Bibby's job to get him into a good shot? And a good shot for Josh is a dunk or layup off of a pass.

:lol6:

at this point all I can do is :beathorse: and I want Woody fired but I doubt the Hawks can find anyone better. Sad huh?

I respect Marvin for knowing who he is. Smoove on the other hand has some serious "me" issues. Dude you're not that good! Block shots, get rebounds, and live with put-backs. Hawks don't need you to be MJ all they need is the Pistons version of Ben Wallace.

Marvin was watching Josh throw the game away

I feel bad that Woody has to deal Josh Smith and Mike Bibby. Both are coach killers.

Woody deserves better. :white flag:

Yet people here continue to bump for the guy. Josh has no business shooting jumpers. Woody should start sitting his but after a lucky make because that's the very thing that fuels this madness. And I don't know why Josh refuse to pass to a guard in transition. He has to be one of the worst ball handlers and passer in transition in Hawks history.

I wish Woody was more demonstrative after no calls. Sometime it's good to take a "T" early to let then refs know what's up. Go all ABM on those fools Woody. :smile:

Yet you see Joe continue to pass him the ball when he's 'behind the arch'. Joe, as acting captain, has to know that Josh should get the ball at the 3-pt line.

I'll admit to being a little unreasonable with Bibby's game. I seriously doubt if asked to penetrate more that he could do it. At this stage of his career he's probably best served being a jump shooter but Woody could give Acie more meaningful minutes to offset Bibby's lack of aggressiveness.

Four from me: Send Josh to the locker room the next time he jacks an ill-advised 3. Get Josh to pass the ball to a guard while in transition. Get one Mr. Ronald "Flip" Murray to play team ball. I can't count how many times (while at PG) he's taken the ball down court and hoisted up a shot without anyone else touching the ball. Get Mike Bibby to realize that he's not paid to pop cute little 3-pt shots all night. He must understand that it’s his job as PG to get players (other than JJ) easier shots by penetrating the defense.

Did they ask any questions about Bibby's refusal to drive the ball or his reluctance to get anyone other than Joe an easy shot?

Dang.... wish I knew but I seldom watch TNT during football season

Mark Price. Hawks did hire him in the off season?

$20 he would play Flip over Paul

the "Bibby sucks" thing was a joke. Bibby is OK. I only wish he was a better defender and focused more on his inside game.

I see your point. But man I would really hate to win this year only to take a step or two back next year. You think these fans gonna give Woody a chance in hell next season if the Hawks were to lose Bibby in the offseaon? But like many have already said, we can play this season out and let whatever happens happen.

No. Joe is my favorite Hawks of all time. Nique included.

Some of that is Joe tyring to get his 25+

Right now Bibby is the best PG on this team. But I don't care about right now. I'm looking foward to the years to come. It's Acie's time to shine. By default he's a better defender and he's never been shy about driving the ball. Plus the Hawks have one of the best PGs in NBA history on the coaching staff to school him. I have little respect for Bibby's game. Yeah the 3's are cute but....