MarylandHawk

2 hours ago, AtLaS said:

Players voted Trae at #12 for backcourt players in the East, behind guys like Lamelo/Garland/Brunson. Don't even know who 10/11/12 were.  Crazy.  I don't think we will have an all-star this year.

Uh o. Trae is taking names. They done f’d up now. 

8 hours ago, Peoriabird said:

It's pretty obvious but posters continue to blame others. None of this is new. Trae has played hero ball ever since he has been in the league but his fans have to scape goat someone else. They are willing throw the entire team, coaching staff and fans under the bus to save this dude from criticism. It is so strange

Because he is our hero. Deal with it. 

This one is on Clint and OO17. No way Mason Plumlee should have a game like this. 

Murray’s three point shot is coming around. 

10 hours ago, shakes said:

I love DJM, but that video makes him sound like an idiot.   Is he seriously complaining that Tony Parker didn't forgo a starting opportunity in Charlotte so he could stay in San Antonio and mentor DJM from the bench?   How much of a narcissitic (sp) entitled dbag do you have to be to think that logic makes sense?

 

My advice to DJM would be to shut up and dribble.  

That is a terrible take from you. People ask you questions answer them honestly. He sat behind Parker all those years knowing he can ball, when he got his opportunity, the vet leaves and goes and rot in Charlotte just to avoid the embarrassment?  Like he said, real ones know bullsh!$ when they see it. 

8 minutes ago, lethalweapon3 said:

As a heads-up for attendees, the Peachtree Center area is shut down after rabble-rousers hanging around with this afternoon's Stop Cop City protestors (originally at Underground) damaged property around International Blvd before dispersing. You'll see it on the news soon enough. Things may have calmed, but just keep an eye out for any troublemakers outside the arena/Centennial Olympic Park and stay clear of them.

~lw3

Just hornet fans mad. Lol. 

5 hours ago, marco102 said:

I love hearing this!

Love this. This is where Trae can excel defensively.  He knows what the offense is trying to do and he can read it a mile away. If he can communicate it and gun up what their offense is trying to do. UHO O. 

2 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Mmmmmmm.

 

 

The frustrations appeared to emerge when Ayton failed to set a screen for Mikal Bridges that ended in a blocked shot from Torrey Craig. Ayton and Bridges then began arguing during a Wizards' free throw attempt on the ensuing possession after Ayton was called for a foul.

Why you bringing up old stuff?  Lol. 

24 minutes ago, BangHolman said:

OO has to do more to develop his game to force that kind of trade. I don't care if he was the 6th pick or not. I would do the Ayton deal, but it's not because of where we drafted OO.

I can respect that. I am a little higher on OO17 than most it seems. He has got a midi jump shot now, he has fantastic hands, he is a strong finisher, great screener, great team defender, good individual defender (except around the three point line) and still has upside. 

13 minutes ago, JTB said:

But it’s true and it’s always been true. John has definitely improved but when it comes to guarding the elites I would much rather have OO on the floor over JC.
 

I’ve been with Supes on that front from the start that OO is a better defender than JC. It’s just that overall JC is better since OO offensively isn’t close to Collins at all.

my theory is however that if you have a 3 headed monster offensively in Trae, Murray, Ayton…then OO can do what he loves and what got him drafted him and dedicate his full attention to defense.

It is enticing but it all depends on what’s in Ayton’s heart and mind. That is such a risk. His upside is still better than Clint and John but it is just that right now. Upside until he is given the chance to prove it.  That’s why GMs get paid the bug bucks. 

17 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

There's no way I'm trading BOTH for Ayton.

Well when put it that way… fugheetabuotit…lol. 

8 minutes ago, Diesel said:

That is the faulty logic that lead us to spending so much time and money on Marvin Williams.   I believe in a Merit based system.  We don't make moves based on the inabilities of our Jr. Players.   We make moves that make us stronger now... today.  The Phoenix deal that you cite will take away all of our strength.  We just started playing good defense and you want to take away our defensive anchor and a guy who has been a strong sidekick all season.. and replace them with middling defensive talent at best.

Secondly, as a championship quality team, you're not trying to make deals that loses players and saves money.  Have we learned nothing from Kevin?  What did Ressler saving that LT money cost this team?

 

The truth of the matter is those two guys helped their team go further than Clint and John did. OO is already a better defensive player than John and when given more minutes he has proven he gets better. Let me quit before  I turn into Supes.   Lol. 

9 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

No

At some point you have to make room for OO’s growth. He was a 6th overall pick and his game fits better next to Ayton than it does Clint or John. Not to mention this would clear space to resign Murray when Crowder’s salary comes off the books.  Again, not saying this is what I want, but it has to be something the Hawks have to consider.  To me, the only thing that kills a deal like this is Ayton’s “make up” Can him and Trae build a relationship and can he be trusted in the locker room. If the answer is no, then keep it moving. 

The small things I would like to see is us trade Kaminsky and a 2nd to Miami for Dedmon and the sign Solo to a vet minimum. That will give our locker room some much needed veteran leadership and well as some good back up center play. 

2 minutes ago, MarylandHawk said:

I think the issue with him is that when he was drafted number 1 overall, he expected the team to be built around him. When they got Chris Paul and the vets got healthy, the entered into a win now mode where Ayton had to play a “role”.  This is where the fracture came in especially when there was max money on the line.  The year they went to the finals, he accepted the role but the following year he wanted a bigger role and a chance to make his money. The coach denied him that and there really was no repairing that.  The coach and team reinvested in Paul. I believe Ayton thinks he can be an even better player than he is right now and still wants to prove it. Money is no longer an issue right now. I believe he has matured but would be better off starting over with a new coach/team. He fits well with what we lack. 

I don’t think phoenix can refuse a package of Clint and John for Ayton and Crowder. The issue is does that make us better?  The only way I see it works is if Okungwu is on the floor with Ayton and crowder and Jalen come off the bench. John’s  and Clint's leadership can’t be underestimated though. It is such a fine line. It will come down to wether or not Hawks management truly believes in Ayton.  Don’t get me wrong I am not on the trade away John or Clint train. Love both those guys.  But have to consider all options and if the option makes us better now and in the future, you have to pull the trigger. 

11 hours ago, sturt said:

Ya know, this makes me think of the part of the Young Landry/Threezus interview where a lot of time was spent talking about being discerning about what qualities even beyond the physical specimen you're looking for "in a Hawk."

I've never been persuaded that Ayton is the kind of person we should expect to see in a courtroom some day accused of whatever... he seems a decent guy... but I've also never been persuaded that Ayton is the kind of person who brings what is often called the "soft skills" qualities to a team that you generally want. What we've seen publicly is likely just an overflow of what others have seen privately, imo.

I think the issue with him is that when he was drafted number 1 overall, he expected the team to be built around him. When they got Chris Paul and the vets got healthy, the entered into a win now mode where Ayton had to play a “role”.  This is where the fracture came in especially when there was max money on the line.  The year they went to the finals, he accepted the role but the following year he wanted a bigger role and a chance to make his money. The coach denied him that and there really was no repairing that.  The coach and team reinvested in Paul. I believe Ayton thinks he can be an even better player than he is right now and still wants to prove it. Money is no longer an issue right now. I believe he has matured but would be better off starting over with a new coach/team. He fits well with what we lack. 

1 hour ago, sturt said:

So which of you scored 35?... errrr... claimed... to score 35, that is.

Oh you know that was Northcyde. Had to to get to the magic number 35 to ensure a win.

This is beautiful Hawks basketball. If this is the identity Fields is trying to create, I am all for it. 

6 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Which one of you Squawkers or lurkers is this? 

 

Not me but it could be. Lol. 

16 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

 

What have Jokic and Morant to disrupt their teams, coach, or the front office?

Jokic was suspended for nearly breaking a players back. He had a few seasons showing up overweight and out of shape. Morant stays engaging social media and misses a lot of games with wild play. 

6 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

He can keep the chip, just not let it weigh him down.

On one of his many turnovers last night, he was clearly fouled, he didn't stop playing defense to argue with the ref...he ran back. Baby steps.

He started to for a sec. Lol.