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19 minutes ago, Sothron said:

my guess: we get the picks, tank the rest of this season and use the picks in the offseason to bring in someone.

That doesn't seem to work out very well for us.  Instead of high quality players, we get the Beys (decent, but not going to put anyone over the top), and the Mat(t)hews, and g league scrubs. This is really a disappointing outcome for this season.  I don't want Nate back, but it appears that Snyder was overrated, too.

19 minutes ago, Sothron said:

my guess: we get the picks, tank the rest of this season and use the picks in the offseason to bring in someone.

On 11/27/2023 at 7:29 PM, bird_dirt said:

I don’t mind trading Bogi for Caruso at all. You know Bogi is going to miss significant time at some point so I’ve always thought we need to trade while he’s healthy at his peak value. 
Caruso has his own health issues like Bogi, so like for like is a good deal, but us tossing in the picks is a bit much. 

At best Caruso for Bogi is an even swap.  If anyone is owed a first rounder, it would be us. He's just not that good.  Any gain in defense is offset by his lack of offense.  The FO needs to be completely replaced, and Ressler's son does not need to have any input at all.  As Trae will be disgusted, we will be starting over from scratch, and the other teams know we have no leverage, players will leave and we get 2nd rounders and washed up has beens, or never weres.  The fan base will not like this at all.

10 minutes ago, Mikey said:

It’s go time gentleman. Haven’t received an update but things could move quickly 

I hope we don't trade DJM for 2 second round picks and a couple of over the hill (or never made it up the hill) guys.

3 minutes ago, Diesel said:

Again... Players that played for the Hawks.  We drafted Dr. J too.

But Luka, Bill, Dr. J, and David Thompson Never played for the Hawks. 

We did draft Pete Maravich...   54 years ago.

So.. Every 47 years, we can look forward to drafting a superstar.  I don't know if I will make it to 2064... before we get another shot at it?

 

 

Probably not Diesel.  I don't know about you, but I think 2064 is not too likely for me.

3 minutes ago, parfait said:

Pau Gasol? 

Pete Maravich, Luka Doncic, Bill Russell, Bob Pettit, David Thompson

1 minute ago, JayBirdHawk said:

I love the trade deadline and all the chatter, but I never expect the Hawks to make a big In-Season move.

Expect a Patty Mills/Wes Mathews type move, then we'll here 'better deals will be available in the offseason'

Sad but true!!!

And if we're really interested in keeping Trae happy and here, another "rebuild" or "retool" is just going to frustrate him more.  Reaves, Grimes, etc.  just ain't gonna cut it.  Waiting on draft picks to develop (or not) is not going to make him want to stay either.

4 minutes ago, Atlantaholic said:

Don't give a flying duck about his cash flow, more concerned about our capacity to fill out the roster with much needed depth with our cap being maxed out and the team currently headed to the lottery. 

Like the $25 million TPE for Collins?   You think we'll actually use that?  Maybe you're right, but based on what we've seen thus far, I'd say it's not too likely.

3 hours ago, Atlantaholic said:

Of course Murray is overall better than Reaves, but he's making 20 million dollars more per year. The logic for Reaves for Murray trade, and assuming the rest of the trade is filler that eventually turns into cap dollars is Reaves + 18-24 million of cap relief for Murray. 

Cap saving doesn't do a thing for the team.

3 hours ago, Atlantaholic said:

Of course Murray is overall better than Reaves, but he's making 20 million dollars more per year. The logic for Reaves for Murray trade, and assuming the rest of the trade is filler that eventually turns into cap dollars is Reaves + 18-24 million of cap relief for Murray. 

You might care about relieving the Ressler's cash flow concerns, but the fans do not rate it too highly.

6 hours ago, BangHolman said:

Picks are currency.

Russian Rubles.

On 1/2/2024 at 9:00 PM, JeffS17 said:

Trae? Yeah, absolutely but we couldnt afford that lol… JC is singled out cus hes a very low tier starter on a contract that signals mid-high tier starter

I was thinking more in terms of constant 30 foot three point attempts with 15 seconds left on the shot clock, turnovers, etc.

52 minutes ago, theheroatl said:

DJM getting traded for a TPE & cash considerations?

You left out the late second round draft pick.

5 minutes ago, terrell said:

lol I posted something basketball related and he started calling folks ignorant.. smh

 

Oops. 

John Collins stock and team value is even worse in Utah than it was here in Atl….. it is a miracle that Utah took him off our hands.......

https://www.si.com/nba/jazz/news/jazz-john-collins-trade-biggest-regret-2023

Yeah, you're absolutely right...basketball related.  Anyway, I'm done.  Do me a favor, and I'll do you a favor:  "Ignore" button.

4 minutes ago, kg01 said:

I'm just messing with you, bruv.  I got no beef. 

I know.  No problem.  I changed the font size.  

6 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Honestly, based on the font you just used, you clearly think all of us are literally blind. 

Pardon me.  I should have changed the font size from the dictionary font size.  I corrected it on the original post.

1 minute ago, terrell said:

But he ISNT important to us though..

The only person on our roster that is indispensable is JJ.

Just now, kg01 said:

Honestly, based on the font you just used, you clearly think all of us are literally blind. 

It's called "cut and paste."

12 minutes ago, terrell said:

To belittle means to put down, or to make another person feel as though they aren't important. 

 

Are you JC himself?

If not, I doubt he's reading this board.. lol

 

/bəˈlid(ə)l/

39 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

TS didn't want to pay JC. Trae and his daddy did who by proxy is with who?

 

I'll let you guess

I doubt that.  Trae was all for getting rid of him, because he dared to stand up to him in a team meeting.

9 minutes ago, ShooterSays said:

Attach Lauri and we can discuss taking JC back…

I'm not suggesting we take JC back, but these people who belittle him probably couldn't make a layup if they were guarded by a 95 year old grandma using a walker.  

20 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

Would you be happy with a starting 5 of JC caliber players? Thats the argument youre making right now— quality matters when youre paying a guy $25M the next three years

Would you want a starting 5 of Trae caliber players?  How about Bey?  How about Hunter?  How about OO?  None of them can carry a team any more than JC can.  Why single him out?

18 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 care to explain?

Murray signed July 6th.

The Siakam trades got full steam after (and DJ wasn't trade eligible).

The closest rumored deal was Siakam for Hunter, Mills, AJ, pick.

Everyone was saying at the time that DJ took a team friendly deal so the Hawks could trade for another star to add to him and Trae.

So not understanding this take.

He-ur maybee this cayan hep.  Trae acted like he wuz all excited to get together and play wif Murray.  Now it seems as though Trae and  his daddy are ready to unload Murray.  Murray took a team frenlee deal cuz he thought he wuz gonna be a part a sumthin grate. Ah guess the thrill haz worn off for Trae.  

1 hour ago, theheroatl said:

LOL we finally pulled a fast one on Ainge and everyone thought we were just salary dumping LMAO

 

I'm so glad he is gone

Yeah, Utah would be so much better off with Rudy Gay and a second rounder.  Those are things that would put Utah over the top., if only they had hung on to them.  They could have afforded to buy Rudy Gay a walker.

1 hour ago, theheroatl said:

Murray isn’t getting traded

Trae isn’t getting traded

JJ isn’t getting traded

As for the others, that’s TBD

I hope you are right!

41 minutes ago, Diesel said:

I gave you a reaction.. That's because you came back throwing straight heat.

However,   We don't know what our drafting is right now. 

• Bufkin may be really good.
• Gueye may be a real steal. 
• Before he hurt his ankle, the other player was in with the big boys.

The Fields led FO is still a mystery. 

just my opinions:  

Buffkin was not that impressive to me in summer camp or preseason.  Maybe he'll get a lot better, but I expected more.

Gueye showed some potential but as a 6'10" small forward who needs to put on a good bit of weight.  Somebody get that man some cheeseburgers!!

Lundy seems to have some potential, but can he develop any consistency?

I know these guys are young and inexperienced, and maybe I am hoping for too much too soon, but it doesn't look like people are banging on the doors wanting to play here.  When we get someone who wants to be here, we get rid of them as quickly as possible, or make no secret of the fact that we are shopping them around the league.  I think Murray could have gotten more money to play elsewhere, but took a team friendly contract to stay here, only to find that the guy he wanted to play alongside appears to have thrown him under the bus.  I know it's a business, but when someone makes a sacrifice to play for you, don't throw them out the window.

1 hour ago, Diesel said:

Haha...

Do you really want to go here??

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