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1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:
Latest from LAL fans: Rui, Reaves and Gabe for Trae
lol those fans are desperate for hopium
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17 minutes ago, AHF said:
There have been a bunch of legit concerns he will need to overcome mentioned but don't seem to get a reaction. The amount of time he spends injured is definitely one of them. Again, my expectation for him this year was that he would be more productive than ever and seize the starting job. Snyder decided he wasn't the man for it during the 2023-24 season and when it looked like he might make a case for it while CC was injured OO again got hurt and missed the rest of the season. Availability is a very important ability and our frontcourt unfortunately has a track record for repeated and significant injuries (OO, Hunter, and JJ in particular).
Plain and simple.. OO should be on the block if a good trade is presented. He is not untouchable.
I think him and Bam are miles away in how they play the game.
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On 4/24/2024 at 3:33 PM, AHF said:
Moving away from an agent to his father would send the signal to me that he isn't all that worried about it right now. If I'm trying to read tea leaves accepting that, a move to his father could mean he isn't focused on renegotiations right now or that he is very comfortable that he has the leverage to get what he wants.
This is my read on it. Also, there is a more than slight chance that Trae is unhappy with how his name is used by the traditional Rich Paul rumor mill spin cycle.
Pretty sure I would be pissed if my name kept getting tossed around during the season when I’m trying to play basketball.
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1 hour ago, KB21 said:
Yeah. Let’s go out and get us a 7-foot slug just because he’s big. Let’s trade our athletic modern big because he’s not 7-foot tall.
lol. KB, how many of these centers would you choose to give starting minutes over OO:
There are so many better centers right now:
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The main issue is OO is not outstanding at any one particular thing.
I'd rather him have an identity if he is going to start.. will he have a great hook shot? Great 3 point shooter? Rebounder? Shot Blocker?
I can't tell what he is right now.
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Give OO starting minutes or trade him.
I’ve seen enough of Capela. Should have traded him last offseason.
I really can’t wait until this roster is gutted. Complete lackluster defenders littered everywhere.
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OO has shown me he cannot be a starting center in the NBA. A PF starter or backup.
This year he could have proved that but he did not when is he was available.
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On 4/22/2024 at 1:22 PM, JayBirdHawk said:
Not sure what it means, if anything.
Another potential sidebar to make note of here: Young continues to be represented by Klutch Sports — same as Murray — but league sources say Young’s father Rayford Young also recently secured formal NBA agent certification.Good for him. Agents take too much
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1 hour ago, JeffS17 said:
I agree with you. It makes sense for them to shop Trae around in either case. If they are actually considering trading him, you have to see what kind of value you can get back. If you want to trade Murray, it's helpful to drive a narrative that you'd rather keep him, to make sure you're getting other teams' best offers. I'm guessing we will keep Trae and get what we get for Murray, but I do genuinely believe there's a possibility we move forward without Trae.
For reasons having to do with the Centennial Yards Entertainment district, there is no chance they trade Trae (I don't care either way) but it's obvious on that front unless he specifically "asks out" like Dame did eventually.
However, I think it's clear they will test DJM's market again and I hope we can change the rest of the roster up.
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I’m really sour on NBA writers and so called sources after the last few years. I can’t believe any of that trash anymore
the process of scenario creation and rinse and repeat is continuous trash cycling.
These so called sources will have you spinning in 5000 directions before the actual real truth is put out by Woj
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Trying to convince me that Hollinger has sources is ridiculous and reaks of bias pushing by posters here looking for Trae to get traded.
Honestly I don’t care who gets traded but this team sucks big time at defense. But trying to tell me Hollinger is connected and more than just a columnist is fan fiction itself.
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16 minutes ago, KB21 said:
Some snippets:
- John says the Hawks could return all 12 players with contracts for next season, sign Vit to a NBA deal, and fill out the rest of the team with the likely 10th pick and stay a hair under the luxury tax.
- He also says that league handicappers, whatever that means, believe that Young is more likely to be moved than Murray.
- He says that trading young for multiple smaller deals allows them to push themselves back from the tax line and also sets them up to give Jalen Johnson a big extension.
- John Collins trade exception expires June 26th, but he says Atlanta could use this exception to generate one of similar size in a Young deal.
I think he significantly undersells the continued improvement of Jalen and Onyeka.
He has been outrageously wrong on many things for many years.
1 minute ago, JeffS17 said:Another source that thinks were more likely to trade Trae.
John Hollinger is not a source. He is as much of a source as Jeff Schulz was. He was and always will be a columnist.
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10 hours ago, REHawksFan said:
Starting Hunter and CC is a hard pass for me. I'm intrigued by Miles but you aren't doing anything to fix the biggest weakness from this year.
Keep Hunter, but off the bench. Let CC go or come off the bench.
Hunter and Capela gotta go. I agree
Bogi is not our starting SG.
Trae-SG-SF-Jalen-Center
Trae and Jalen are the only starters for next year we currently have. We need better defensive players at the other spots.
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1 hour ago, kg01 said:
Aye Hawksquawk wouldn't be Hawksquawk of we let simple errors and miscues slide, amirite?
But seriously though, MIL defense sucks so what's IND's excuse. Pacers whupped them all regular season.
KG if you're team is great on offense and sucks at defense you are likely to get exposed in the playoffs
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30 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:
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lol whoops.. meant the bucks you know that
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Pacers elite offense getting throttled by Boston defense…
rely on offense for the playoffs? Prepare for disappointment
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5 minutes ago, kg01 said:
My targets for 10:
Trade it
This draft is bad bad
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6 hours ago, capstone21 said:
Really? In what way? We score 125 … the other team still scores 130.
We literally have watched this unfold for season after season..
Tell me ya'll.. how many times we had 135 scored on Charlotte but Terry went for 40 and they scored 142.
I'm telling ya.. ya'll got your head in the sand.
Literally what offense talent are we going to add to this... that is literally stupid for a front office to do.
Add some freaking defenders man... how freaking hard is it.
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36 minutes ago, NBASupes said:
As long as you always scoring at an elite rate, you are also generally set on defense.
NO
above average scoring and average to above average defense gets you in the top 4
elite scoring doesn’t mean squat.
you think the pacers are a threat to win the finals? No way
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LOL at the advanced stat geniuses.
it doesn’t take a rocket scientist that we we lose so many games to having a porous defense.
no advanced stat metric combing offensive and defensive stats will give you that.
we are near the bottom of the league in defense every year since 2020.
whether it be personnel or scheme.. watching games daily you will see opposite team random scorers get hot and them hit corner 3’s consistently.
GET BETTER DEFENSIVELY, WIN MORE GAMES
advanced stats can go in the trash
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Ehh.. looks like there is a good chance we will have a pick in ‘25 after all. 4D chess on the DJ trade lol.
Now we just need to trade for a ‘26 and 27’ and we are back to square one.
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6 minutes ago, NBASupes said:
Do we still have Michelle Leftwich on staff
Let’s be honest with us avoiding the tax her expertise hasn’t really been needed
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7 minutes ago, Hawkmoor said:
Thats the Atlanta Spirit we miss. Bring in more voices...
50 cooks in the kitchen
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2024 Hawks Offseason Thread: Lottery Bound
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Posted · Edited by theheroatl
That Phoenix team is a colossal failure.. what a train wreck.. question is does any of those players help us for the cost they would take.
All these teams built around offense gonna run into a brick wall when they meet defending teams.