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But the signing of Ellis is way worth it, also cash wise. If he can maintain this level its a steal. He might well grow out to be a player that along with Dirk, some high expiring contracts(Carter, Marion), Cuban's antics and a suprizing Mavs team is able to attract some star. Last season the Mavs where just a horrible display before they went after Dwight Howard. This year no Howard, but also no horrible display mavs.

But he aged well. Hes like fine wine and wants to add another 2 years.

Why I said "Though that defense...." But for the Mavs its much more about next years FA hunting who now can see there is something to work with at Dallas, unlike with Oj Mayo etc. Dirk already made comments along these lines, not expecting much from this year. Though I think they look great. Specially because they are always able to step up some notches on offenese when needed. They look real clutch and might even this year suprize in the play-offs. Surely no title contender, but at least its not a D specialist like Charlotte who cant gun along.

As a German B-Ball fan, hence Mavs fan, I loved the signing of Monta as soon as I heard it. Also the signing of Calderon I love. They really compliment each others offensive strengths and some additional offense was most needed for Dirk. Never understood the Jalen Rose etc rankings pre-season listing the Mavs so low. Though that defense....

This is terrible! The world ends.

I would always hold on to Horford and Teague and make trades happen for C and SF. Untill then this team is rabble and I dont get why Bud is trying so hard to win with this team and isnt developing the talent on the bench in name of Schröder. All he did was making rookie mistakes and the few minutes he got with Mack injured where showing progress again. Young PG dudes need to be allowed to make mistakes, as long as they show a willingness to learn and progress. Mack 1st and 2nd quarter against the Mavs lead a team scoring 2 points in 5 minutes. How about that?

So can we have Schröder picking up some exp-points again? Trade him if you dont play him. This dude needs to get out there to learn and remain confident.

Terrible defensive loss really. Orlando has allot of talent and all of them got to play in their comfort zone. Oladipo, Vucevic, Affalo and Nicholson all could shine up those stats reflecting their strenghts. Ayón looked terrible as well missing easy shots everyhwere. But maybe it was even more a coaching loss with coach Bud benching Horford so much and not subbing my man when Mack went out. Schröder had a good 1/1 FG 2/2 FT and a great steal though in his 5 minutes and hopefully gets more minutes coming games with Mack prolly injured out.

Yoga is prolly not as scientific as what the medical-teams prepare for them in leaning and bending excercises. Pro sports is just wearing you off. Specially as a small dude against big dudes, and especially when being performing all sorts of movement and collision at high speed day in day out. Some have injury-histories that always keep catching up and get worse with time and slow you down. Yoga wont protect you from that. When I looked at Rose or Philly Iverson I thought this inhuman. How can such a small fellow keep on trucking that offense day in day out, always needing to play on such a high intensity level to squeeze out the small margins a small dude needs on that court. Often I saw them making movements that cant be healthy nor be performed at age 30.

What about adding Deng and Teague Jr to the Noah deal and send Elton Brand together with Bebe, Millsap, Carrol, Schröder and that pick to Chicago? I mean Noah and Deng is better than having that thread. Admit its more about the thread. hehe In Germany we say "Vorfreude ist die schönste Freude" translating into The joy of anticipation is the greatest of joys". I'd rather have some dudes who can be key players than some pick that might never happen and bench players + Millsap you got in abundance. Imo that would look a real TEAM-TEAM enough to be srs contenders for conference finals.

Noah for Bebe, Millsap, Carrol and that Nets pick? Maybe add in Teague Jr for Schröder. Hehe

Yeah but it feels like they are traumatized waiting for so long and then this happening again. Their team is getting older and as you said Deng turns FA. They dont know how Rose will come back and it costs them allot of cap-space. Them tanking would make allot more sense than all the talk of Atlanta tanking with two young star players and then some. They know they maybe get the 2nd round again in this weak east but then what? They have a club attitude based on its history and based on 2011 where since then they held hope to become a championship team as long as Rose is on the team. That ambition is crushed ATM. Doing nothing on trades and picks and just waiting for the messiah to return and hoping his knees stay with him next time is a bad strategy I think.

Completely agree with that^. Many of these super-quick ankle-breaking players twisting their spine in mid air etc have some great years when they are younger, but as time goes by that game wears quick on them as well. Specially for smaller players who cant rely on much else.

For the best big man in the league. Pretty much one of a kind on that position regarding production. They dont breed these versatile big men anymore it seems. Asik is a role player, not a franchise player, but a good one to fill a position around Teague and Horford where Atlanta lacks the most.

I just visited the Bulls forum, curious about the sentiment around the Rose injury and most members around there feel their team should tank for this season and trade away whatever they have for lottery picks and expiring contracts. Chicago has some nice pieces Hawks could use, like Noah, Boozer, or Deng. Maybe Millsap, Carrol/Korver, Schröder/Mack, Jenkins/Scott + picks for a combo of two of these three players?

^Something went wrong with the linke there. "And this should really weird you out. Shot in my birthplace neigberhood."

Well SF Elias Harris this year drafted by the Lakers, but waived I believe and very talented but waived PF Ademola Okulaja drafted by Philadelphia some years ago, both have that feat as well. Much weirder to me is the name Schröder on a black guy, which is the most typical German name one can have. It would be like an Asian called Smith. But then again in the German soccer-league we have an Ivorian called Hans, who isnt even from Germany or anything. His mom back on the Ivory Coast just found it sounded nice. And this should really weird you out. Shot in my birthplace neigberhood. hFv5UDo2Yag On the game: this week I also catched the Mavs game vs Heat, and the Heat evened the farnchise steals-record that game with Wade evening his personal steals record. It was crazy. It seems like the Heat can force their perimeter defense upon the opponent knowing they have a very small starting line-up. Mavs had many more rebounds on both ends, shot better etc but the TO's where just crazy. I think it cant be that a team can bank on that D forever. There has to be a way to get in the paint without making record TO rates. Also sorry to see Dennis playing so little. But had his first steal finally.

I think its better for you to stop using this underhanded and dishonest coterminous language. As if Im comparing the German league to the NBA. I did plenty to make clear Im talking about a players game fundamentals and how different things are for him ATM in these different leagues, with even different rules. You assesed based on what you saw that some of these game fundamentals are completely absent. I simply seen more of him and his stats simply prove you wrong. Also of course being a 5 years pro in the prime of primes of your life makes a difference. Specially pro-skill and pro-mental whise, but also pro-physically. Not even worth expanding on this...

Teague certainly is a much better athlete. He's a mid 20's 5 year NBA vet for crying out lowd. How could he not be? But I agree with the second "Will he be as good as Teague" part of your post.

Well maybe the fact that Im not trying to hide proves a form of honesty, thats maybe also reflected in the critical posts I make about DS17. It certainly doesnt warrent a slimy cop-out even suggesting everything I say is meaningless due to my bias. Anyone reasonable can see what I wrote is not blind fanboyism and your reaction is making you look dishonest, which maybe reflects in your critical posting on DS17. Anyone in Europe knows Dennis his main strenth is 2nd gear. Its just a very fast straight-forward 2nd Gear designed against much less traffic, shorter arms, where blowing by one opponent is often enough to get stuff going. Teague isnt faster he just knows what he does in all sorts of NBA situations. Schröder just runs in there. And that moment is where the trouble starts for him mostly. Though judging before hand to get into 2nd gear or not is also much better for Teague. But much of all this is experience based. To suggest he doesnt have the physical capabilities is, well either blind to the game or dishonest. He made most his NBA buckets this way btw.

Concerning the 14 pounds I put up. I got it from that Spiegel Magazine article posted here recently by someone else. http://www.spiegel.de/international/german-rookie-dennis-Schröder-hoping-for-basketball-stardom-a-931038-2.html As far as being benched tonight. Well maybe its because of what I have been saying and Coach Bud seeing this guy needs some rest and some reflection going. Dennis did however play his better games away. The forcing to show what he got to the Atlanta crowd got him most these bad TO's. He has shooting issues, but the biggest really is that he doesnt shoot at all. In the game against Philly the first half was actually pretty decent not making mistakes and guarding well. In the second sub rotation however you saw he was begging at two occassions for open 3 point shots, but he didnt get the ball which prolly set him up. Then he made the two horrible TO's. Obviously there is also a big mental issue going on being so hungry for attention and only playing so few minutes with limited succes, forcing himself to do even stupider things. He needs to start from scratch and train harder than anyone else.

The point is he can shoot baskets in certain type of situations when he has the confidence and that he needs a shot of some sort to have a needed variation to be less predictable etc. He wont ever be a big treath from the perimeter, but as of now the one dimensionality is deadly to his game et all. Other players in Germany, which for 1/3 or so are Americans and quite a sum have some NBA history also dont have that high of a 3 point %. It could be an asset when adjusted to this much better league. But again he's in the works ATM.

I strongly disagree. 2nd gear is prolly Dennis his biggest asset and is more explosive than Teague's, but Teague once in 2nd gear knows what he's doing and his defenders know he knows. Teague can in the mids stop, fake, shoot a jumper or floater or put it back in gear while knowing whats going on around him. Schröders 2nd gear in Germany was just a turbo button where that one excelleration went straight to the basket and a limited arsenal of alternatives just in case dealing with much lesser defense. You can see him trying to mimic this but along the way realizing it wont work, so its back to building again with team-players getting back to rotation and all in all its getting the flow out of offense, In Germany we say "A man grows by his assignments" and Dennis just could work his way around the way he did and it was excellent on the level he played back home. On this level, whenever wanting be a starter anywhere he really needs build allot more variation into his game. He knows his current limits I hope, and I hope he grows by this greatest of "assignments" a kid choosing this proffession can ever hope for. Its certainly fascinating to watch as a German and wannabe PG to see what he does and has to deal with.

Shooting off the dribble always was his main weakness, but he had a 51% 3 point shot in Germany, which where mostly catch and shoot 3's admittedly and not all to many, but overall also had a very decent FG%. But him being a great shooter is not really the issue. What he needs is being enough of a treath to have options and make defenders hesitate. And I think they got on the training-program during the summer-league already.

Well we have to consider a few extra things when judging Dennis Schröder ATM. Last weeks it was said he gained 14 pounds of muscles since being with the Hawks and runs extra-training routines to continue buffing up. Also consider he comes out of a league with much softer play and only one official game a week. Now he plays with top athletes and every second day almost. This has on a short-term averse fatigue effects, which also translates into precision and decision making. Buffing up in such a short period is also having a negative effect on your shooting, since the entire muscle-memory that you trained your jump-shot with all your years growing up is completely messed up. Thats also why you see many shooters(take Nowitzki)refusing to buff up in order to not endanger their trained shot. Dennis surely needs to buff up in his role, and needs to continue working on his shot while adjusting. Thats a hard task but he has to when he wants to succeed in this league. His game by now is to one dimensional which is deadly for the game he wants to play. But he has time on his side and hopefully a sturdy head on his sholders. Such difficult times can also build character.