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Were DMC or Sap starters when they came over?? It wouldnt shock me to see the Hawks deploy this: c horford pf sap sf holiday/thabo any combination of minutes sg hardaway/ korver any combination of minutes pg teague

I have confidence in Bud with this one. Outside of Pero, he makes move that APPEAR to not make sense at the time, but it comes together later........

Thats true, but, man, throw the loot out there...............

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/08/report-mavericks-believe-they-are-legitimate-contenders-to-land-kevin-durant-in-free-agency-next-summer/ Were the Braves a TOP free agent destination before Greg Maddox?? I REFUSE to believe the Hawks CANNOT convince a big time free agent to come to Atlanta. I refuse that, ESPECIALLY because of the fact that athletes love Atlanta. Its a top market, regardless of what ESPN, TNT AND THE NBA SAYS, and the city is possibly the fastest growing city in the United States . The NBA, the networks, and the Hawks THEMSELVES have made a decision years ago to not market the Hawks as a elite club. You CREATE your market and you CREATE the desire for athletes to come to your ballclub. If you are serious about winning, and SERIOUS about PAYING a top athlete, you work it out. Mark Cuban ALREADY has announced that he wants Kevin Durant next year. Where is the Ressler?? The Hawks cannot let it be known that they want a player like Durant without entailing a fine from the NBA? In fact, Cuban dont care because he is a WINNER. The Mavericks are another ballclub that DOES WHATEVER IT TAKES TO WIN. So, its not the players. Its Hawks ownership and management, in cahoots with the NBA and media. Atlanta is a market that that Hawks ownership and the media, NBA, etc. have never cared about developing beyond just GETTING BY. Back when Ted Turner owned the Braves, the Braves and the Cubs were the ONLY two major league baseball clubs, in fact, the ONLY teams in PROFESSIONAL SPORTS, that were on TV NATIONALLY almost EVERY NIGHT. The Braves were the first. Commissioner Bowie Kuhn ( baseball), told Ted Turner to get serious about his ballclub because they represented the league and were a embarrassment. Since Ted owned the Braves and TBS, and he used them to fill programming space, the networks and major league baseball couldnt prevent Ted from what he was doing. Suddenly, after baseball pulled his coat tail, Ted GOT SERIOUS, stepped back, hired the right people, and PAID TOP DOLLAR to get Greg Maddox, flirted with Barry Bonds, etc. Everytime a big time free agent came up in a discussion, the Braves were in the MIDDLE of EVERY conversation. The Hawks dont even get into conversations, much less serious talks with other players. I know, i know, the cap room THIS year. What about NEXT YEAR? WHATS the excuse gonna be? I know, free agents dont wanna come to the Hawks. That excuse has gotten played out.

You create your own market........

Ive never had a problem with Korver's defense..................

If he just becomes a AVERAGE NBA center, the Hawk win because of his size. If he becomes a stud, obviously, he would be a steal for the Hawks. I still rather see Horford at 4, and a developed Tavares at 5, with Sap spending time at the 3 and backing up the 4.

Is that not the SAME thing i said, but in a different way????????? lmao I said " the system is gonna get it done, not players, according to the squawk." You said " nobody ever said that." Then turned around and said " It has been pointed out tho that we don't necessarily need the biggest names and sexiest stats to get it done with our system. "

Really, it doesnt matter WHAT Dwight wants because the Hawks arent serious about a player of his caliber anyway. On top of that, he doesnt fit the profile of a player the Hawks would want in their organization...........thats why they would never try and get Boogie. Sacremento could offer boogie for scott, mack and some draft picks, and the Hawks would STILL find a excuse not to work a deal...

The Hawks SYSTEM is gonna win them a chip, not players.......................according to the squawk..........

Yep, his shot isnt consistent enough to be a starter.

TWO firsts???????? no wonder he still in Denver.

Well, excuse me..........good points.....i just want that chip...........lmao

but, but, but according to the squawk, the Hawks can never maneuver the salary cap........lmao Funny how the Spurs were able to convince David West to come there for the low.........MUST have something to do with the Spurs signing Aldridge, a FIRST TIER free agent......The Hawks will never change.........

For the LAST time, im not talking about just THIS off season. Its ALWAYS been that way with the Hawks. So, what you are saying, in 40 plus years, the Hawks have had cap issues...............lmao. THATS MY POINT. They had MEGA cap room after Ferry cleared all that space when he dumped those salaries............and did NOT get or EVEN SEEK a first tier free agent. Bud is gonna do the same next year.......

I believe Dwight would at this stage of his career. Either Sap or Horford in a trade for Dwight. Dwight is a dominating center when you surround him with shooters, like when he played with Orlando. The Hawks could inside/outside teams and be unstoppable.....

And therein is WHY ive got numerous posts explaining that until the Hawks get REALLY serious and go after top tier free agents, or top tier players in a trade, the club is still looked at as a good team, that isnt gonna win a chip.........Work a trade for boogie, do SOMETHING to let the NBA know you serious............... I think Coach Bud can turn just about ANY player into a better player in his system. Why not get a superstar into that system??

Understanding the salary cap isnt my issue. My issue is that from hawks HISTORY, even when they have room to REALLY maneuver with the cap situation, they DONT. The Hawks could have the MOST cap to work with next year, and STILL, they go after second and third tier free agents. History has shown that with the Hawks and believe new ownership will do the same...... How much cap space did Danny Ferry clear up, having Hawks fans thinking they were gonna shoot for top tier free agents, only to sign DMC and Sap???

Hawks are NOT gonna seek a premium free agent. They wanna build around second and third tier free agents. They can have all the cap space in the world and its not gonna happen. Ferry had the Hawks at nearly 30 million in cap space, and went and got DMC and Sap. Bud is gonna follow the same blueprint. There will be no Durant, Howard, James, Curry, Wade types coming thru that door.

Let me break this down in kindergarden. The Hawks have been in Atlanta over 40 years without a championship. In that time, they have had TWO what you would call premium, superstar players: Dominique Wilkins and Mutumbo. What im saying is the HAWKS need to figure out how to work that salary cap and get ANOTHER superstar into Atlanta. Its always a excuse. Always next year. Danny Ferry cleared out all that space when he first took the job and had everybody thinking they was gonna make a run at a premium free agent. He didnt. There IS NO next year or working the salary cap with the Hawks. The Hawks wanna build around next tier players and hope their SYSTEM brings the chip home, but i say it will not. ( see lebron james, see wade, see curry, etc.) ....

And NOT addressed by the Hawks.............

I got all excited for NOTHING...........Hawks not gonna sign this dude..........

Does it matter if he took less this year, next year, three years down the road??? He took LESS............LMAO I just AGREED with the poster that said Sap took less money........... sigh.........

Thats not my issue. My issue is them not adding BIG TIME free agents to the Hawks........

Yawn.............Either get serious and put up the money to pursuade ballers to come to Atlanta ( like the Braves did with Greg Maddox), or continue to rebuild every year..........Its that simple...... The next best thing is to go sign a player like Wesley Johnson, and that hasnt happened yet either. They at least got to do that.