marco102

Give me Miles Bridges over all of New Orleans players.

Would you want Embiid? Don't think we have the assets to get him though.

Thanks for the detailed response. I just think you are getting to hung up on "starting". Starters don't necessarily play the most or closing minutes. You need Clint's rebounding against those centers you listed. My front court options are Miles Bridges , Jalen Johnson, J. Isaac, Clint Capela, De'Andre Hunter, Onyeka Okongwu, Mo Gueye, Kel'el Ware, and Vit. You can start whoever you want from that group at SF, PF, C. J. Isaac actually helps with point of attack defense and overall defense which is why I want him. I'm turning sour towards Ingram because he's going to be on a max contract and his production ain't that. I thought his defense had improved but I watched him the other night and was disappointed.

Yup, I'm essentially replacing DJ with Miles Bridges and Isaac. You don't have to get caught up on the protected first, if you think the magic will give us three firsts for DJ then think of it that way. I'm more looking at the players not the picks.

I mean, I like this in theory, but I just don't believe the New Orleans trade will happen. Also, we may be in that 2nd apron tax penalty with the new CBA with this roster. I think you'd have to trade away, Capela, Bogi or Hunter not to be and get back much less salary.

I just want some defense on this team. @kg01 agrees with not giving up Murray for peanuts on this deal.

See below for my hypothetical lineup.

You know more about the rumor mill than me. I thought his value would be down. You could bring him in the JC trade exception with a sign and trade or mid level exception. Trade Murray to the Magic for Issac and picks. This playoff run shows they need better point guard play.

I mean, I brought in Jonathan Issac, Bridges, and Kel'el Ware. I'm not starting Ware. If you want to start OO, start him. If you want to start Issac at Center start him. We can start Clint he doesn't have to play the most minutes at Center. Who are you realistically getting to start for Hunter and Capela? Also, explain how you are acquiring them.

You fought a good fight Supes.

Nope. I probably just value Issac more than you. If you are focused on the picks, just imagine getting three first round picks. Like I said I was trying to be realistic as far as what the Hawks have been getting. What's another realistic way to improve the team? Keep Murray? Run it back again? The biggest problem this year was point of attack defense. Hence the adding of Delon Wright. Also, having two point guards on the floor has hurt us because we don't have enough size on the perimeter. Bogi playing with Trae or Murray improved the defense.

I'd start. Trae Miles Hunter JJ CC It gives us the size we need on the court with Trae. I don't think Clint is going anywhere. The last month of the season he played really well. This saves Bogi during the regular season. You can spot start Bogi and move Bridges to the three if you want. I just don't believe we are going to make wholesale changes this year. To me, this is a semi realistic rebuild.

They won't be. Miles can play 2, 3 or 4 and you have Bogi, AJ, Kobe and Wright who can play the 2.

He's giving you this and my hypothetical he's undervalued So if he wants 4 years $60 to $70 million, I'd do it.

Yes..lol We need players not picks and generally the comp with a sign and trade isn't that much. I'll also add that I don't think he's getting top tear money just because of the reputation, but all it takes is one team to pay him what he's actually worth. If Charollette wants him back it's a mute point. I read that they wanted the relationship to end.

Thanks. Could you do a sign and trade with JC's exception?

Is he though? That defense is game changing and we need it. I'd love to get two or three unprotected firsts in my trade, but trying to be realistic. You don't always get what you want, but we are def improved.

Just being realistic about returns. I'd love more, but that's like my minimum outcome. I thought when we traded Murray that freed up an extra $8 million. Who else are the suitors for Bridges? If need be we can move other pieces to fit him in. I just thought he'd be more realistic than Ingram. To me, they are about the same level of player.

I've thought about how to fix the Hawks. This may not turn them into a championship contender, but it should get them out of the playin and once we are there maybe we can attract that second star. 1. Trade Murray to Orlando for Johnathan Issac and a protected first round pick, let's say top 15 protected. This adds some much needed defensive versatility to the front court and Orlando desperately needs good point guard play to help that roster. 2. Sign Miles Bridges - He won't be going at the top tier free agency price and he's been cleared of his latest charges. He solves a lot of problems we have. He's a decent defender, great rebounder, can get his own shot and can play the 2, 3, or 4. 3. Sign Delon Wright - Helps with some point of attack defense which is much needed. 4. Draft a center - My preference is Ware, but whoever you prefer. 5. I wouldn't re-sign Bay. I like him, but with Issac and Bridges he won't be needed. Rest of the roster remains the same. 1. PG - Trae Young 1.5. Combo Guards - Delon Wright, Kobe Bufkin (both on bench) 2. SG - Miles Bridges, Bogi and AJ - These can play 2 or 3 so we aren't short on SF. 3 SF - De'Andre Hunter, Vit 4. PF - Jalen Johnson, Johnathan Issac, Mo Gueye 5. C - Clint Capela, OO, Kel'el Ware This roster isn't in cap hell either, so you can move pieces to improve under the new CBA if the results aren't there.

Yeah, but these rankings don't matter unless they prove whatever point I'm trying to make. Just the specific sites who agree with my ranking of Ware who I believe is top 10 worthy.

I won't try to convince you of that sir. Just let the chips fall where they may. I'll root for anyone the Hawks draft and won't be mad with Eddy. The difference is, if the Hawks choose Ware, you'll be angry. Whoever they draft I'll root for them to be the MVP one day because that means we will be winning a lot and maybe making deep runs in the playoffs.

lol I don't. Eddy most likely won't be an MVP and I don't think Eddy will be a complete bust. Leave it at that. My preference is not for Eddy because I like another prospect more. But the speaking in absolutes on both sides is wild. If you know the future, given me the next billion lotto numbers and I'll split it 50/50 with you.

I think Ware will move up in the mock drafts, but for me, the Hawks need a two way big (center) with size and length. Ware seems the only player to fit that mold. I'm more for drafting for need and upside this draft since we don't control our own pick going forward. After workouts, if the team sees him as a fit take him at 10 and call it a day. This draft has a ton of variance so someone drafted at 30 could turn out to be the best player in it.

I don't know if this is a stray. It could be, but they really don't give Trae shooting fouls or continuation on anything unlike a lot of other players.

It is easy to explain. This isn't all Traes fault, but the Hawks have to get out the play-in. When teams win the media wouldn't dare put him in the list or other players.