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He's got skills, but he's raw. He doesn't know when to do certain things and his timing is off in a lot of actions to me that's raw and can get better with repetition.

What foot issues do you keep talking about? I haven't read or seen videos about that. You should read the entire article he tackles a lot the other stuff. I just took snippets out. I like Ware. People may go ahead of him, but I believe he'll be one of the better bigs out of this class. He just has to put it together. The effort thing is hit or miss. People said Jalen Johnson had effort and motor issues as well, but he's worked out fine. Cam Reddish they said the same. He's still in the NBA but never reached his potential. I've seen Ware's effort improve from last season. A lot of the effort issues last year dealt with playing a bit out of position from what I've read up on. Indiana fans on Reddit says they weren't disappointed in his effort from game to game. From time to time he doesn't always play at 100%, but most said that was due to being raw. He sets terrible screens when he's trying to slip the screen, but I've seen several instances of him setting good screens. I think most of the screening issues are because he's just raw and young. There are legit issues with him, but there are pretty much legit issues with any big. I like potential and I see him being a very serviceable started in the next three years and really good after that.

A very good and fair write up (scouting report) on Kel'el Ware. https://open.substack.com/pub/edemirnba/p/kelel-ware-scouting-report?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email I like Ware because I see him fitting nicely in the modern NBA. He has a good offensive and defensive skillset. He won't be ready day one, but that doesn't mean he can't play. He's a good defender, good rebounder, and potentially good stretch big. In a draft like this, I'd take that all day.

@NBASupes You think ultimately that Ware will be a bust?

I agree with @KB21 here. Poor screening can be coached. What injury concerns has he had this year besides the ankle? Bulk? he's pretty good size now at 7'0" 240 lbs. Isn't that bigger than Capela as far as bulk? Motor and Effort are a concern, but he's improved those from last year. Matter of fact he's improved a ton from last year which is why I'm high on him. I'm not low on Eddy just haven't really paid him any attention. I watched Ware and he has something that I like (pause ). Can't really describe it, but the way he moves and defends made me really like him as a prospect. The offensive upside and has some good passing chops, makes him seem like a good fit with the team.

That's fine. We can agree to disagree that he's a second round talent. He's one of the most talented big men in this draft of course that doesn't mean he will be the best but from a tools and skills stand point, I'd take him with the Sacramento pick if that conveys. If he's there in the second round, I'd take him there as well.

Lol don't blame me. Like you are with Ressler and the tax, they got to show.me before I start to believe again.

I agree. If no moves are made, he just fits the timeline. He can play with OO and Capela may still be around to show him the ropes. To me, he will be a Bruno replacement if no moves are made. The talent is undeniable just has to out it together.

This contradicts you earlier post on Ware.

My favorite center is Kel'el Ware. He has a lot to work on as far a feel for the game. motor and screening. To me he's the most talented center in this draft. I'm looking for a two way center and he fits that mold better than any center in this draft in my opinion. He can shoot, defend, and moves well.

It's been a long season....

Lol...I'm glad this season is done! Hopefully, the Kings win and we get their pick. Draft Cody Williams and Ke'lel Ware. And trade the players who don't want to be here. I really rooted for the Hawks tonight, but this is best for our future. We weren't winning any championships this year.

You're not sorry.

I can always go with the my little pony, but I will block @bleachkit if he makes me go pro Celtics! I have some humanity man!

Done!

@bleachkit Trae's at 37.3% so what's my new profile picture?

I'm not talking about the talent, I'm talking about roster construction. You need a decent starting caliber PF, unless you somehow are keeping Clint and OO and KATs your PF?

Yes, it should be because who's our starting PF if you let Jalen go? You also have to look at this from a roster construction standpoint. I'm willing to part with Murray and filler for KAT. That Filler shouldn't no include Jalen and at this point not Hunter either.

With the way Bae and Dre are playing as of late, I'm not as interested in him. However, the Hawks should consider him for off season addition to bump up the bench.

KAT

Wait a minute. They treat him just like you talk about him on this board. You keep telling us how he's cheeks. So explain to us "Trae Stans" who don't understand basketball how he's being mistreated when your posts consistently talk about him like they treat him.

I haven't either. I was more responding to woj's "report".

Why does anyone value him? His defense is worst than Trae's. Trae's been adequate this season. I'm referring to previous seasons.