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3 hours ago, AHF said:

Who is "they"?  A lot of complaints all year on lack of depth with this team.

I'm worried they are going to get him hurt playing him at PF and pressing him to try to win games since we are so devastated right now.

If we're sorely depending on Hunter to win games we're already cooked anyway.  Meh. But to the point...Meh.

12 hours ago, Gray Mule said:

Define "Break up the team."  If you mean "Refuse to trade any Hawk" would be one thing, "Flush most all players" would be entirely different.  

Some players gotta stay.  Some players gotta go.  This would be my educated guess.

Precisely this.

1 hour ago, Diesel said:

Here's the question of the day....

If the Hawks went on an improbable run to end the season and ran through the playoffs (like in 2021) and ended in their first finals appearance....

Would you still want to break up the team?  

Yes. Improbable runs from Atlanta teams have shown to be the fools gold for the FO.  The Hawks as constructed aren't going to make that run, but IF the miracle of a lifetime were to happen, I'd enjoy it and still hope this team is minus a few players next year.

10 minutes ago, kg01 said:

No.  Tired of Hunter tho. 

But he scored.lmao. Supes gonna snap on us

Narrative. It's all Trae's fault.  I'm saving haters the time.  

This season in a nutshell has been azz. The Resslers, the FO, the personnel groupings, the personnel, lack of improving the team with that fake azz trade deadline hype, energy, defense, execution, swag freaking surfing, rookie abductions, injuries, underwhelming individual performances, Trae?

Anybody putting Trae in that bag of crap is a snake oil salesman.  We can pick things apart with Trae, but make no mistake, he is the engine.  Putting the haters aside, it's neglect the way this team played tonight.  No heart.

15 minutes ago, AHF said:

I did the math.  Since his rookie season, Trae has shot 41.3% on catch and shoot 3's.  (He is 190 for 460).

His efg% on those shots is 62.0%.  That is a very good shot for this or any other team.

I would say the points on Trae are that the catch and shoot is indeed a good shot for Trae.  Barring yalls fancy smancy stats, I can see it too.  

10 hours ago, REHawksFan said:

Bogi FGM is 2.7 on 7.2 FGA for 37.6%

Trae FGM is 0.8 on 2.2 FGA for 38.7%

Saying he's not good at Catch and Shoot is a damn lie.  Saying he doesn't do it often is true, but he's a very good shooter.  

For his career he's 251-621 for 40.4%.  Saying that isn't a good shooter is, again, a damn lie.  

Smoke. Shots fired.  I love this board!

16 hours ago, TheBigETrain said:

This team looks much better without Trae

You just KNEW it was coming . Never change Squawk. 

6 hours ago, AHF said:

I love the logic of people here.   We’ve had 900 minutes of play without Trae on the floor this season and haven’t seen good defense until the last 96 minutes.  But surely it is all about Trae.  He was holding them back from the bench all season.  His top 10 steals, deflections, and charges drawn were an insurmountable obstacle to playing even remotely competent defense most nights.  Please.

This team has been garbage on D all year with or without Trae on the floor.  Loving seeing everyone step their game up lately but this is like blaming OO for the bad defense since he is out too.  
 

Hunter healthy, Kobe playing, JJ coming of age, DJM not getting abused at the SG position, etc. are much bigger factors than whether OO or Trae are on the floor.  I’m definitely not arguing that DJM isn’t better defending points but again we had 900 minutes this season to see the team be dramatically better on D without Trae and we never saw them look like this.

This is on point! Smh.  

59 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

I am not following you. They would have to use one of their draft picks and select him with it. That's how they would get him

Lmao.  You think we'll be in position to get him? Don't think on it too much. Just a question.

Someone explain how the Hawks are getting Edey? It never works out for us

17 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

This game was less on him than the other two where fatigue played a role. Toronto had a good defensive scheme. Capela being washed is really f***ing us up. His offensive execution which is normally reliable is ass. Defensively, he's a shell of himself. He's gonna feel like Lou and VC in there last year, next year. When centers hit the wall, they hit it fast 

Absolutely!

14 hours ago, terrell said:

Trae in the last 3 games combined:

11-39 FG (28%)

6-24 from 3 (25%)

14 ppg

-35

Wtf man.. 

Hawks arent winning many games if our Max guy plays like this....

And that's just on Offense....

 

Whatever you think of Trae he has been one of the more willing participants on defense. I hate his bad games but it's much more than him. If you don't believe that, there's not much to say.

Most of us try to stay away from ref stuff...but they can s**....it! Terrell..I hate Trea whining but screw that..let's fight!

On 2/18/2024 at 2:54 PM, RedDawg#8 said:

We still on this topic?

Cool, nepotism exists. Shit got messed up. Now what are we going to do about it moving forward?

As far as I am concerned Nicky Ressler hasn’t been brought up as a negative impact since we added Quin to the fold.

I think this information is very old, even if the point is to place the today’s struggles on what took place (2) offseasons ago.

Either way, here we are in 2024. The biggest issues on this roster involve having too many good but not great players occupying rotation spots and salary cap. Most of these players were brought in by Schlenk. Most of them were re-signed by Schlenk. And as far as I know, Schlenk had not acquired a star to put next to Trae either.

The dysfunction is annoying as a fan, but the results are not drastically different. We have underachieved since the season we overachieved. We have Trae which is everything. We have DJ, JJ and Quin which is something.

Im not wasting anymore time crying about Nick Ressler. LF has said he runs the show. Quin has been reported to have input in what he wants to build this roster. That’s where we are. Lets get it done.

We still on this because the foul stench of Ressler is real.  They can change the reality of the perception but until then, it's my post  and I'll whine if I want to.

Nah Supes. It's not about faith in you.  Seriously, they've given us battered fan syndrome for years now. You've been optimistic...defensive, mostly in a good way. Ha. It's just that at some point a clearer defined plan should have at least been evident. I can't say what Landrys vision is but it's not awe inspiring.  Perhaps he doesn't owe it to us to say squat.  He certainly didn't!

I'm just tired if the hamster on a wheel routine. We've perfected it.  How about we try next level ish? If you're tied to Trae like I feel the Hawks are until they aren't, build around him and stop piecing it together without end pieces, middle pieces...

Supes, I ain't agree with you on much but you bring some good points to the table occasionally /s. However, I must ask you again, what is your faith level on the structure and ability to get the right people on this team as the FO is constructed currently?  People championed us NOT making a move on the premise that we'd screw it up anyway.  When oh when will we see competence.  And don't say we didn't sell pennies on the dollar...this summer..yada..yada. I won't believe in this FO until I see a level of competence this summer.  As is, I see this :

22 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Iirc, the Kings did something similar with the owners daughter.  Which ... not sure that shld make us feel better or not. 

Thank Kg. Nope.  

1 minute ago, NBASupes said:

Yeah, for that era. He wasn't a PG, played like an undersized SF. There wasn't a point of reference of success with MJ before MJ. He was a tough. They tried him at PG, it was a disaster in terms of winning ball. The prototype for SG changed with MJ success in the 90s. Remember, the NBA was trying to make everyone 6'6 and over either the next Magic or tall PG or a SF. SG was literally seen as that or a defensive stopper like Moncrief or Dumars. 

Makes sense.  I see what you're saying.

22 hours ago, NBASupes said:

My personal opinion is Quin has the hardest job I've ever seen. Only coaches who had harder jobs was Doug Collins and Phil Jackson with Michael Jordan who was another extremely talented offensive player that's a difficult schematic fit as a #1 option. 

Wait...Jordan was difficult scheme wise to build around? Not sure I read that right or you're making a longer point. 

As for personnel and scheme fit, we THINK or KNOW that this team is severely flawed.  Since the Hawks didn't..couldn't..or wouldn't address at least a portion of this at the trade deadline, are you confident that this will get addressed during the summer? Or do we get more pie on the sky, "almost" traded for, "were close to.."hypothetical fixings?  How confident are you with this FO?

39 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

Should take that dudes Playstation away! Freaking joke.

8 hours ago, bleachkit said:

Well at least he's giving his honest opinion. I can respect that. I think Id prefer that over the GM shouting "he's our guy" from rooftops, and then they trade him soon there after.  

Landry is no word smith that's for sure.  Even if you believe that to be the case, you frame your words to indicate it's a work in progress with ups and downs.  That's true and sounds better without relegating yourself to sounding like a whipped puppy.  Laundry's interview or whatever stunk. It was putrid.  

On 2/9/2024 at 12:39 PM, NBASupes said:

He's struggling with the PR element of this job way more than any previous GM I've seen in this role for the Hawks. 

I agree with Supes and I feel dirty because of it.

3 hours ago, Sothron said:

I'm trying so hard not to make something of someone saying six minutes total all season of a rookie in garbage time gives you an informed opinion of them. Bro...

 

Good win tonight. I missed last night and this night's game due to Columbus River Dragons (we won both games btw). This team is really playing with more energy. It is really a good sign to see all the injuries and we still find ways to win.

Yep.  Good call.