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Nah Supes. It's not about faith in you.  Seriously, they've given us battered fan syndrome for years now. You've been optimistic...defensive, mostly in a good way. Ha. It's just that at some point a clearer defined plan should have at least been evident. I can't say what Landrys vision is but it's not awe inspiring.  Perhaps he doesn't owe it to us to say squat.  He certainly didn't!

I'm just tired if the hamster on a wheel routine. We've perfected it.  How about we try next level ish? If you're tied to Trae like I feel the Hawks are until they aren't, build around him and stop piecing it together without end pieces, middle pieces...

Supes, I ain't agree with you on much but you bring some good points to the table occasionally /s. However, I must ask you again, what is your faith level on the structure and ability to get the right people on this team as the FO is constructed currently?  People championed us NOT making a move on the premise that we'd screw it up anyway.  When oh when will we see competence.  And don't say we didn't sell pennies on the dollar...this summer..yada..yada. I won't believe in this FO until I see a level of competence this summer.  As is, I see this :

22 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Iirc, the Kings did something similar with the owners daughter.  Which ... not sure that shld make us feel better or not. 

Thank Kg. Nope.  

1 minute ago, NBASupes said:

Yeah, for that era. He wasn't a PG, played like an undersized SF. There wasn't a point of reference of success with MJ before MJ. He was a tough. They tried him at PG, it was a disaster in terms of winning ball. The prototype for SG changed with MJ success in the 90s. Remember, the NBA was trying to make everyone 6'6 and over either the next Magic or tall PG or a SF. SG was literally seen as that or a defensive stopper like Moncrief or Dumars. 

Makes sense.  I see what you're saying.

22 hours ago, NBASupes said:

My personal opinion is Quin has the hardest job I've ever seen. Only coaches who had harder jobs was Doug Collins and Phil Jackson with Michael Jordan who was another extremely talented offensive player that's a difficult schematic fit as a #1 option. 

Wait...Jordan was difficult scheme wise to build around? Not sure I read that right or you're making a longer point. 

As for personnel and scheme fit, we THINK or KNOW that this team is severely flawed.  Since the Hawks didn't..couldn't..or wouldn't address at least a portion of this at the trade deadline, are you confident that this will get addressed during the summer? Or do we get more pie on the sky, "almost" traded for, "were close to.."hypothetical fixings?  How confident are you with this FO?

39 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

Should take that dudes Playstation away! Freaking joke.

8 hours ago, bleachkit said:

Well at least he's giving his honest opinion. I can respect that. I think Id prefer that over the GM shouting "he's our guy" from rooftops, and then they trade him soon there after.  

Landry is no word smith that's for sure.  Even if you believe that to be the case, you frame your words to indicate it's a work in progress with ups and downs.  That's true and sounds better without relegating yourself to sounding like a whipped puppy.  Laundry's interview or whatever stunk. It was putrid.  

On 2/9/2024 at 12:39 PM, NBASupes said:

He's struggling with the PR element of this job way more than any previous GM I've seen in this role for the Hawks. 

I agree with Supes and I feel dirty because of it.

3 hours ago, Sothron said:

I'm trying so hard not to make something of someone saying six minutes total all season of a rookie in garbage time gives you an informed opinion of them. Bro...

 

Good win tonight. I missed last night and this night's game due to Columbus River Dragons (we won both games btw). This team is really playing with more energy. It is really a good sign to see all the injuries and we still find ways to win.

Yep.  Good call.

4 minutes ago, Threezus said:

Gonna be honest this is the 1st time in awhile i have been impressed by the Hawks front office.  They didn't just wilt and cave in to people trying to fleece us or get us off our price.   If you can't get what you know your players value is then don't move him for a crap platter coming back.  Not to bad at all it gives me hope going forward.

The problem is not that they didn't trade to trade.  It's that this team is flawed and if you have a chance to correct just a few, you do it.  I don't know the conversations, but a few of the deals would have been plausible for this team.  

48 minutes ago, Vol4ever said:

I'm out til at least the draft.  Yall have fun.  I'm gonna watch the Celtics.  I've hated the Celts my entire old ass life but at least the are not the clown show Atlanta is.  

That stinks .  But I get it. Inept.  That's this franchise.  Oh well...summer.

5 minutes ago, warcore said:

I'm lovin' this new villain version of JayBurd

Its the best!

1 minute ago, Sothron said:

our FO is not dumb. I have to repeat that. The biggest problem we have is Messy Ressy. No FO can overcome a cheap, meddlesome owner.

I've heard that he's going to go for the LT this summer and is willing to pay it so we'll see.

 

Soth...much respect, but how much bs is going to be piled on before we realize this set up as is...is below average? The competency level is questionable to us because of the information you and others have shared.  It's like they've fumbled the bag over and over.  If Ressler is meddling what gives you confidence that the FO will be able to come to life this summer?

Yall do know this happens every year.  It is the Hawks way right? Insider sources leak bs(fed to them I reckon)..and we fall for it.  The FO is sitting around like :

Just now, kg01 said:

HotSupes has been traded to MavsSquawk...pending physical. 

We can dream

Say what you want.  There are at least 2 deals I've seen we could have done. Smart FO's didn't settle for trash and made smart moves.  We're dumb.

5 minutes ago, ABH said:

We can even do something small..FO SUCKS....DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!

This! 

8 minutes ago, AHF said:

Thanks for the clarification.  Make it easy on the moderators and use "media insiders" when you bash people because "insiders" on this board usually refers to a group of posters and is likely to get read that way.

So also for clarification...don't name names or don't call people names? Attack the post. I think that's it right?

19 minutes ago, Vol4ever said:

Summer.........nothing will happen.  Just kicking rocks down the road.  Guy I talk with in business says ownership not interested in making moves while the stands are still full.  

Anybody believing half the smoldering pile of steamy crap coming from the FO is severely loving this comedy sitcom.  

Maybe the insiders know, but I just don't see Murray and OO moving on the same deal without the likes of Zion or Ingram who I don't think they would move for either of these assets. The build up is great.  But I don't see NO as viable without inclusion of the former or latter player.

I hear a lot of "wait till the summer," and I think I'm resigned to that. Until then...I'll wait for more smoke around the Hawks 

30 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

He's not mid

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And I do appreciate you standing on this unlike the last post.

I'm crushed.