I’m can see into the future... LP will not be our head coach the year after next.. 2 years from now! They’re going to take the Falcons good guy approach and give this “good” guy every chance, and he is a good guy. I like LP as a person, he’s great taking on social issues and what not and what have you..  win basketball games. 
Injuries be dammed it’s LP’s rotations that make no since. It’s not coaching guys up. We have talent. 

Never comment but watch almost  every game for idk a lot of years. 

Trea would have had to be benched, if even for a minute, and talked up to by a real head coach after 7 turnovers in the first quarter right? 

7 minutes ago, marco102 said:

Not at that price!  That's for sure.

I've said this before Capella for Gobert straight up.  We give Utah capspace and Hawks get one of the top defensive centers out there.  I'd then look into prying Jared Allen away from Brooklyn.  Haven't look into the scenarios where that would work.  Would probably have to trade Dedmon then. 

If we somehow pull that off we have our center position locked down for the next few years.  

 

Well damn!..lol

That's what I've said. Gobert for Capella straight up if their forced to trade him, isn't the worst they could do and we could possibly grab their 1st for the financial reasons. Look I know Gobert has won some defensive awards but money talks. 

4 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

It was the bleacher report article that had Huerter, Reddish, Hunter and 2020 1st for Beal.

I'm not interested in Beal.

Me neither just conversation. So I kinda do want to sign Ingram but NO can match so a sign and trade seems the most reasonable way to get him here. I honestly don't want to give up that much in that scenario also. But you have to give to get and this is a trade thread so what would a max sign and trade for Ingram look like? Huerter and our 1st?

3 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

I deliberately excluded the top FAs since we've talked about them being the top FAs targets in several iterations in different trades and those are the easy picks.

????? No Way.

Edit: saw yr correction.

I'm not saying do it. But I read an article where it was everyone except Trea for Beal. So what is a realistic trade for Beal? Honestly rather keep building than trade for beal but.. if you were going to. What?

2 minutes ago, TheFuzz said:

Malik Beasley? I wouldn't do that trade to begin with but Beasley is a restricted free agent, we could sign him if we like him that much.

Beal.. Lol

Our pick 5th overall let's say Hueter and Hunter. For Beasley. 

PG Trea SG Beal SF Cam ect... 

??

So I've been a hawks fan since the lineup was Mookie Smith Laettner Hendo and Mutombo. I didn't have cable and WB showed the games on my 20 inch TV. And I've grown up right outside Atlanta as what feels like the only true Hawks fan in the world. I loved watching Jason Terry develop and Shareef Abdur-Rahim score a bunch of points... drafting the "magician" Al Horford, dissappeared whenever any team needs him, was exactly who I wanted. I wanted Chris Paul a year earlier.

 I knew knowing this City with our diversity needed a star and we finally got one in Trae.A I actually loved watching Joe... yeah that Joe with the Suns. They were so fun to watch. Like the Mike Bibby Vladi Divas Christy Chris Webber Paja teams. With Nash Marion Amari and Joe. 

To sign Joe we gave up Diaw who we played at PG! Became a very serviceable C and two future 1st for basically a free agent.

So what do you think a sign and trade for Ingham would look like?

On 4/12/2020 at 6:24 PM, AHF said:

Not at all.  Gobert is much better.  

• Gobert
  PTS
  15.1
• REB

  13.7

  AST
• 1.5

  PER

  21.74

•  

  Capela

  2019-20 STATPTS

  PTS

  13.9

  REB

  13.8

  AST

  1.2

  PER

  20.73

  They're basically the same. 

On 3/31/2020 at 3:55 PM, sturt said:

Just as I suspected...

 

 

This would be cool. But was wondering with Gobert and Mitchell not getting along and assuming Mitchell gets his way the Jazz might be forced to move Gobert. He's basically the same player as Capella just a bit pricier. 

So would you be opposed to trading Capella for Gobert and snatching up their 1st rd pick.  As it stands #24. 

On 11/2/2016 at 4:14 PM, Duff_Man said:

Hey everyone...the TAXES guy showed up! And didn't even bother to read the article!

Now read the article above.

Oh and I know about the Volt green. Just like I also know a scam when I see one.

It is what is.

Bill Torpy at Large: Hawks arena can’t trump Hizzoner’s blue lights

When bad news is afoot, politicians often try to kill it or somehow change the subject.

Killing is always the preferred option, although it’s rare because no news agency that ever wants to look itself in the mirror again will have anything to do with that.

So that leaves option two: wave a shiny object at the public and try to distract its attention from the steaming pile at center stage.

Mayor Kasim Reed went for the latter this past week when he suddenly called a news conference to say a deal had been reached to keep the Hawks in downtown Atlanta for another 30 years.

The plan calls for the city to pump $142.5 million into Philips Arena because that sports venue is absolutely ancient by Atlanta sports facility standards. Seventeen years old?!? Those poor basketball players and the team’s new billionaire lead owner must worry the place will collapse on them.

The announcement of an arena agreement between the city and the Hawks had been in the wind for weeks because the two sides had been talking for almost a year. So why announce it at 2:30 on Tuesday?

Hmmmmm.

The timing was instantly suspicious to this professional skeptic because Hizzoner was set to be electronically spanked at 5 p.m. on Tuesday by my corporate cousins at Channel 2 Action News.

Over the past several weeks, the TV sleuths had busily collected footage of the mayor coming and going in his black SUV, coming and going very fast, in fact. Sometimes the SUV ran red lights or exceeded the speed limit or ran up the shoulder of a clogged highway or moved regular schleps off to the side of the road.

Reed was able to do this because he’s the mayor and has a cop driving him with blue lights and a siren on the SUV. And they like to use them. A lot. About every time WSB went out with a camera, Hizzoner’s blue lights were flashing.

The mayor rushed headlong to ribbon-cuttings, speeches, press conferences and even parties.He did this because he’s the mayor and we are not, although state law is pretty specific that such toys are to be used only for real emergencies.

Reed, who is largely obtuse as to how he comes across, must have figured this didn’t look good because he initially tried to kill the story. When that didn’t work, he called a quick press conference.

The recipients of this latest government giveaway — the Hawks — were, I’m told, surprised to get a call on Monday from the mayor’s office saying the announcement was coming the next afternoon. It seemed odd to them because the deal wasn’t totally locked down.

On Wednesday, the day after the press conference, my AJC colleague Scott Trubey requested a copy of the agreement and was told by Keisha Bottoms, the head of the Atlanta Fulton County Recreation Authority, that “an agreement has not yet been executed on behalf of AFCRA.”

Trubey was a bit befuddled. After all, the previous afternoon he watched the mayor talk about this new public-private initiative. He asked for drafts of the agreement or something concrete that says, “We have a deal here.” Again, he was told “AFCRA has not formally executed an Agreement.”

Later, the mayor’s folks got back to him saying he’d get such documents Friday.

The announced deal said the city would keep taxing people who rent cars to come up with most of the $142.5 million. The Hawks would kick in $50 million and even agree to stay until Reed is a very old man.

However, the deal isn’t as rosy as the one Hizzoner told the AJC about back in February. Back then, he said the city would spend $100 million to $150 million for an arena overhaul that would run between $200 million to $300 million. Under that sliding scale, the Hawks might have put up $100 million or more into the renovation. In the end, they didn’t pony up anywhere near that amount.

(In the Hawks’ defense, $50 million is not chump change. That kind of money can get Dwight Howard and his aching back for a couple of years.)

The point remains that the mayor’s crew, I firmly believe, rushed this sucker to a press conference just a couple of hours before WSB’s “Blue Light Special” was set to run and bring a fair amount of public indignation down on the mayor. Heck, even Mike Luckovich jumped in with a cartoon showing the Mayormobile on an "emergency" run.

And this announcement of largess for a sports team came a week before voters will be asked to contribute a combined $2.8 billion for MARTA and transportation upgrades. If I were ever asked to join the mayor’s “strategery” team, I’d recommend springing this one on the public after the election.

But since we’re talking scheming, does this time-honored tactic of trying to steal the bad news message work for pols?

I called a couple of veterans of this realm — Angelo Fuster, who handled communications for Atlanta Mayors Maynard Jackson and Bill Campbell, and Dan McLagan, who did so for Gov. Sonny Perdue.

“It’s a standard tactic to trump one story with a bigger story or a different story, but there is seldom success,” Fuster said. “It’s like the magician moving the right hand so you don’t look at the left hand. But magicians are more successful than politicians.”

I asked for examples of when such an effort worked. Both thought long and hard but couldn’t think of when their camps were able to pitch stories to overtake a bad one. It has to be organic news.

In 1995, Fuster said, Mayor Campbell’s office was worried about Freaknik coverage. Then came breaking news — a federal courthouse in Oklahoma had been bombed with terrible loss of life.

A year earlier, McLagan was working for Ollie North as the former Marine and Reagan conspirator ran for the Senate. The campaign was ready to take a bad hit in the news that day when a worried McLagan flipped on the news to see a helicopter following a white Bronco down an L.A. freeway. Hello, O.J.

So I kind of feel for Reed. Short of Donald Trump declaring war on Russia that Tuesday afternoon, our mayor never had a shot at dimming the blue lights.

Doesn't mean money from tax payers should go to a company that apparently make enough money to pay it's player's 25 million a year but charges normal people so much they can't take their families to the games.  I'm the bad guy, idiot and you're the enlightened one. 

19 minutes ago, jy23 said:

Aye man I think you're a little to up in arms about this. Volt seats are a color scheme. Has nothing to do with where the seats are. Are you ok?

Yeah it's ok. Go hawks! My words aren't going to change anything. I think we have a top four team in the east. Designed for a chance in the playoffs. And believe it or not I think we'll have three Allstars in Dwight, Millsaps and Shorder.

Wtf does "volt" seats mean? Philips arean is straight up scary steep, in a good way. NO bad seats in the house.  Are there any real Hawks fans on this board? Wtf! Or is this all robots?

3 minutes ago, NekiEcko said:

Actually you are very wrong about this because the only funds that this renovation is rental car taxes and half of the Braves money when they move up to Cobb, so there is no taxpayers money.

Now if you want to complain about that then I suggest that you look into the arenas in Milwaukee, Sacramento and Las Vegas, now they are getting raked across the coals for that.

Plus no team or city wants to end up like Seattle when the Sonics left and they are fighting right now for a decent arena that might even keep them out of expansion. 

We have a decent arena all ready though. I've gone to it frequently  many times. It's actually very easy to get in and out of. There are many things to do near by, if you don't know the city you  can use yelp or whatever.  This is a money grab from people who are acting like they care about you.

Oh and the indoor fireworks... F'ing priceless. That's how dumb they think Hawks fans are. They clearly have no idea how this money will be spent. 

They just know it'll be on things for the luxury boxes you won't see. It's stealing from the taxes to give to the already rich.

Very rarely post.. actually only once before. As an Atlanta resident and huge Hawks fan not a rich one(middle class). F!ck this! Philips is fine for me.

Using tax payer money to boost this city up I'm for. Using tax payer money to make rich people sit more luxuriously is gross. 

Hawks fan for life. Reading this thread and I had to log in.

I'm amazed at how unbelievably negative most of the people on this board are.  

Jarret Jack can still play and extremely well for a backup at his age, and for the minimum! If you think this is a bad signing you're an amazing idiot. 

And by the way Dwight Howard is a better center than Al "the magician" Horford.  Look at the numbers. Don't buy into the media's bull sh!t. 

I'm not saying we're getting passed the Cavaliers, but we're a better team than last year and we have a better chance of getting past them.

Oh and Schröder is going to be an all star.

Stop being negative F@$ks. You give Atlanta fans a bad name. Good day.