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1 hour ago, KB21 said:

Got to protect that losing culture at all costs.

Hey winning 60 games didn’t exactly register in any meaningful free agent but hey.

2 hours ago, benhillboy said:

We just bought out two very good vets and replaced them with guys who are having cups of tea in the league.  It’s unreasonable to think they’re gonna trot out a G-League lineup every night for 30 minutes and play like the Washington Generals.  I’m not smart enough to know how effectively vigilant Silver can be in his efforts to curb Tanking but he seemed to be serious about the sh@t based on his comments today.

Silver is a f@$$ moron . With all the league has gotten wrong. And mind you he long ago could have stood  up and hammered the 76ers. But choose to do nothing because he’s a stooge for the owners that signs his check. In reality he can’t do shit cause a little under half the league would be disqualified.

37 minutes ago, KB21 said:

No.  Schlenk has turned this in to dog shit.  Paul’s deal is a 2 year deal.  It will not be an albatross.  

No that was Wes and bud and to some degrees ferry although he was fired. It is my belief that that 60 win team was meant to be stripped and shipped for other pieces otherwise why did ferry pretty much not secure any of their bird rights. They just happened to really catch a down eastern conference that year. We still got nowhere with that team. Adding Paul would keep postponing the inevitable.

On 2/26/2018 at 9:15 AM, KB21 said:

Schlenk is the one that didn't even offer Millsap a contract.  He's the one that decided to crap out the roster.  He's the one that foolishly gave Ersan a 1 year deal and allowed him to have the veto power on a trade.   He's the one that decided he wanted the roster to be "young and fun" which is just another phrase for "stupid and terrible".   He's the one that didn't even try to bring in players that can contribute to winning games.

Love Paul but history says that contract will be an albatross in seasons to come. It already is being that paul has only played 16 games. The hawks would have been swept in the 1st round if they even made it that far.  Which I highly doubt they would. When horford walked the hawks should have been rebuilding. Intstead they signed Dwight ( approaching that middle build that you suggest) it blew up in there face and we are where we are now. Ersan was a bad gamble but then there is a reason he’s been traded so much.  The one year deal was done to have expiring contracts that a contender might want to take on  for the stretch run. Nobody figured he’d go all I want to be here. Yes the fans have a right to be pissed but that was bud and Wes’s doing. Schlenk is just cleaning the dog doodie off the floor. 

58 minutes ago, AHF said:

That is why you need the worst record possible.  Finish with the worst record and if all the balls go sour on us we still have the #4 pick.  Win a few more games here and you could be looking at the #8 pick as your downside instead.

Having a top 5 pick will mean good options will be on the board.

Regardless of where you draft, you have to nail your picks.

Exactly.

2 minutes ago, AHF said:

Our past GMs do have a record of making some pretty good trades even while they almost uniformly stubbed their toes in the draft in epic fashion.  I don't think it is a GM issue that has prevented us from having an MVP player outside of the draft - it is a matter of us being pretty good but not great for most of our existence which means we rarely even had a theoretical chance at an MVP level player.  Teams give those guys up very rarely and when they do it is usually for lottery picks.

Which is why I’m hopeful of schlenk. He’s two for two in my eyes Collins and Dorsey have been surprises. Give him four picks and I think we should come away with some talent. Also not all theses guys will stay with us. The next guy that cough cough is unhappy with his team the hawks could be in position to pounce and go from there. 

1 minute ago, KB21 said:

Actually, they haven't. 

Actually they have. Golden state and Cleveland. Golden state was mediocre post the baron, Jackson years. They gutted the team signed David lee to a massive contract. Then they got lucky in the lottery people passed on curry and klay. Jettisoned monta and acquired bogut and Barnes and drsymond. Rest is history. Cleveland was in no mans land as they were an older capped out roster that wasn’t good post LeBron move to Miami. Couple years later acquired Bennett who was a bad pick, Wiggins and kyrie and flip a couple for love rest is history. 

1 minute ago, KB21 said:

But the chances of drafting a superstar with a high pick isn't rare?

Depends on where you are picking and if you get the pick right. 

The chances of you getting a harden type player are rare. Wound up being lamb, adams and I forgot the other one but still. And to pull that off you need assets that people want. But this decision by Oklahoma led to the break up of there group. Also Atlanta tried that middle build approach got creamed every year. Time to try something new.

4 hours ago, KB21 said:

Schlenk is the one that didn't even offer Millsap a contract.  He's the one that decided to crap out the roster.  He's the one that foolishly gave Ersan a 1 year deal and allowed him to have the veto power on a trade.   He's the one that decided he wanted the roster to be "young and fun" which is just another phrase for "stupid and terrible".   He's the one that didn't even try to bring in players that can contribute to winning games.

Love sap but he  was not going to help the hawks except pad the win column by a couple games. And prolly be where Charlotte is now.

4 hours ago, Peoriabird said:

Is Millsap even playing this season?  I don't think Denver got their money's worth when they signed Millsap.  Wonder if that wrist will ever be right again. 

Nope 16 games. Denver has done this without much help from Paul.

1 hour ago, Watchman said:

And we know trade rumors are never wrong.

Rumors are wrong sometimes but this was stuff coming from other teams. The hawks hardly ever release info. And remember whether you like it or not the entire team was on the trade block sans maybe Dennis who Phili  was rumored to have offered  some type 1st for. It wasn’t until a week before the deadline. Korver would up being the only significant move. But bud didn’t address it until a week before the deadline that milsap and co would not be moved. Which had the world baffled because why get rid of just korver who was in a funk. 

9 minutes ago, AHF said:

It's not in a vacuum.  Baze has always been better than "I can't shoot a jumper" Turner.  I hated on Baze's deal but from day 1 I would rather have had Baze than Turner.

I was referring to should you entertain trade offers that make sense. Not in which is better.

50 minutes ago, lethalweapon3 said:

Booo, Portland media! You're no fun...

~lw3

He’s right you know though. In a vacuum baze is playing better. Should the hawks go ahead and cash in prolly.