2 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

OKC has the flexibility to do whatever they want. They could even draft a PG if they think Giddey isn't what they want anymore. They are loaded with ammo. 

OKC needs size, but also doesn't want to give up it's style of play and clog the middle.  Tough to balance the two.

No way they draft a PG.  They already have 3 of them in the starting lineup.

Just now, Packfill said:

For some reason I was thinking Jalen Hardy (g-league alum and now on Mavs) versus Jaden Ivey.  My bad.

no worries, my jokes aren't that funny so you didn't miss much.

7 minutes ago, thecampster said:

SBnation updated draft projection has Edey to Atlanta with #20 via the Kings.

 

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2024/4/9/24120282/nba-mock-draft-2024-post-march-madness-ncaa-tournament-first-round-projection

that's gotta be the worst mock I've seen yet.    CDub lasting to #13?  Topic #1?   Yea, that's a terrible mock.

26 minutes ago, AHF said:

You've seen enough to know he will be out there the moment they allow him to step back on the court.  Whatever his faults, he is a gamer and a competitor.

no doubt about it.  Pound for pound he's the toughest person in the NBA.     I'm concerned with the team holding him back for whatever reason.   Although at this point in the season with the place in the standings already determined I can't imagine what that reason would be.

21 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

He's talking about Edey and Ivey. Both Purdue players who he clearly doesn't like

never good when I need @NBASupes to come in and explain my jokes to people.    Never good, but always appreciated 

34 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

 

 

I see two future HOFers, one potential good player who I know nothing about and then two overrated stiffs from Purdidn't who both peaked in college..

My favorite part of the game was when UConn brought in their athletic undersized center and Purdue went to drop coverage on the PnR.  UConn ran two straigt PnRs and got uncontested ally oop dunks for their big because Edey is so slow he couldn't even defend the rim in drop coverage.

LOL even my wife made a comment about how he would get killed at the next level after witnessing that display.

Anyone wanting to waste a draft pick on him after that display is out to lunch.

2 hours ago, Jody23 said:

I know Trae wants to play and help his team, but there's no need to rush back.  Let that hand get completely healthy.  No need to take unnecessary risk with this season.  And if he does play again this season, when they lose, the takes are going to be horrendous.  But, then again, they already are.

Jesus Christ its a pinkie on his non shooting hand.   There's no risk at this point.    He needs to get some games in if he's going to be ready for the Hawks Super Bowl a/k/a the Play In Tourney.

4 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

We don't have a game tonight.

Trae hadn't played in so long I forgot he was on the Hawks and not Purdue or UConn.

if he's cleared for contact he should be in the lineup tonight.   It's a pinkie.  I'm sure he's been staying in shape and getting his conditioning in while he was off.  No reason he shouldn't be able to play tonight.

looks like it is set in stone, opening round of the playin will feature the Shakes Bowl, Hawks vs Bulls as the teams battle for my allegiance.  Little do they know, I've already been sleeping with OKC for months.

13 hours ago, thecampster said:

When Edey becomes a 20/10 guy in the NBA,

I would laugh at this, but that's not allowed here.

3 hours ago, NBASupes said:

 

 

This just means that Lebron only watched the first minute of the Purdue game.

11 hours ago, JTB said:

Believe it or not…this thread is more interesting then our hawks currently 

I think this thread is terrible.   Been the same people regurgitating the same opinions ad nauseum.  At this point just lock this thread and re-open it next year once Edey actually starts playing some NBA games and we all need a place to laugh []

44 minutes ago, AHF said:

That should be a really good game.  I’m excited to watch it and the variety and strength of opinions on this thread do make it more interesting still.  
 

I don’t disagree that you take the most impactful player on the board unless they are almost certain to be there with your next pick.  That said, I would feel a lot better about taking Edey with the Sacramento pick if we are going to do it just because I feel like there will be some intriguing options at 10 that won’t be there under any circumstances closer to 20.  Edey seems like the hardest player to predict in terms of draft slot that I can remember in some time.

hopefully it's a good game.  Purdue didn't have much trouble with them when they played a few months ago.

12 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

10. Atlanta Hawks: Cody Williams

Previous Mock Draft Spot: No. 5

Team: Colorado

Position: SF/PF

Size: 6'9", 190 lbs

Age/Year: 19, Freshman

Nationality: American

Pro Comparison: Jaden McDaniels

Cody Williams finished the year on a high note in a loss to Marquette, looking more aggressive with drives, hitting a three and delivering some impressive defensive sequences.

He's still clearly on the raw side, lacking polish off the dribble, showing no real pull-up game and averaging just 1.7 three-point attempts per game. But he'll remain a top-10 candidate, with the likelihood that one team covets a big, two-way wing archetype and can afford to wait on his creation and shot developing.

Even if the team that drafts him doesn't have time to wait, Williams would still have something to offer as a 6'9" driver, off-ball play-finisher and wing stopper who generally plays the right way.

 

 

21. Atlanta Hawks (via Kings): Yves Missi

Previous mock draft spot: No. 21

School: Baylor

Nationality: Cameroon

Position: C

Size: 7'0", 235 lbs

Age: 19

Pro comparison: Mark Williams

A quiet game in a loss to Clemson capped off a productive season of 63 dunks, interior defense and occasional face-up drives. Teams interested in adding another easy-basket target and shot-blocker will have to assess Missi versus Zach Edey, who's far more productive and skilled, but also older and less athletic/mobile.

Missi's 61.6 free-throw percentage and 13 total assists are worth thinking about, but given his tools, foot speed, coordination and leaping, it's also easy to picture his finishing, switchability and rim protection carrying over.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10114308-2024-nba-mock-draft-full-2-round-predictions-ahead-of-sweet-16

I think that's the worst mock I've seen yet.  if they get 2 picks right I'll be shocked.

1 hour ago, kg01 said:

Why?  What would anyone have to ask that doesn't apply to literally every other player in every other sport?

This isn't an 'NBA' problem, it's an 'all sports' problem.

This is an illustration of why sports can't be in bed with betting.  There's no way this isn't happening in all sports now.  It's too easy to do it and get away with it.

WackAdam strikes again. 

It's happening in baseball.  Only difference is Porter wasn't smart enough to have a fall guy like the Japanese guy did.

2 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Come on shakes. Let's wait till the facts present themselves and justice runs it's course. 

I'm just messing around.  personally I don't care if he raped anyone.  I learned after 10/7 that rape is kosher.

This Jontay Porter scandal is going to rock the NBA assuming any high level media members have the guts to even cover it.

6 hours ago, Sothron said:

Mrs. S is so excited her Fighting Illini are in the Sweet 16. They have a kid on that team that is just raping people.

Fixed!

22 minutes ago, KB21 said:

There may not be a worse defensive pairing than Trae and Edey.  Good lord that would be shitastic.  

plus you want some other sucker/team to take Edey so Trae can exploit him in the PnR if teams are dumb enough to play him.

1 hour ago, NBASupes said:

How?

As a drop defender, he's protects the paint, the rim, he's an elite box out and defensive rebounding package not to mention, tremendous mental acuity. These are three of the five most important things teams look for in a center. 

That baseline means at the very least, he's going to be a solid drop defender. Not as good as any of our current 5s or even as good as Hawks Dedmon but better than Damian Jones and Alex Len. 

It's hilarious how off the wall Edey takes are from those who don't like him. 

You would think he's Tacko Fall when they mention him

How?

Can't guard in space and will get eaten up in the PnR.    This isn't rocket science.

14 minutes ago, AHF said:

If that mock played out we could have both Williams and Edey which would be a very interesting draft.  Very risk/reward tilted.

I wouldn't touch Edey with an Edey sized pole.  Unplayable on the defensive end.

24 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

One of the things I've said on another site is there is this assumption he will grow because look at his brother but he doesn't have the same frame as his brother. His frame is more like Brandon Miller. Jaden frame is a bigger McCollum. That's why his boom potential as off the charts. 

I think this might be the Marquis to Jeff Teague situation. 

I never saw his brother at the same age so don't know for sure, but CDub definitely appears to be much lankier.  It all comes down to him putting in the work.  As long as he follows his big brother's lead, it shouldn't be a problem.

I wouldn't hesitate to grab him if he dropped to ATL.  I would consider him with a top 3 pick in this draft.

1 hour ago, NBASupes said:

If he doesn't physically grow, his bust potential is off the charts. He just isn't athletic enough as 2 and is way too small for a 3. That said, he's high risk. 

if he doesn't grow then yes.   However, just look at his brother.  He's gonna grow and get a lot better, almost guaranteed.  Once he puts on weight he's got great size for the wing.   I'm willing to bet on the Williams family genes based on how good JDub has turned out to be.  CDub was better than JDub at the same age and he's got a bigger frame.

Given his lineage I would not put him in the high risk category.