Mikey

Not a single report on this KAT to atl deal yet…

1 hour ago, BangHolman said:

I would rather trade Jalen than either Okongwu and AJ, and one has to be included in the deal. Okongwu and KAT is a dream pair.

totally agree there... if they could keep all three some how tho 

8 hours ago, Sothron said:

Minn doesn't want Hunter. They have forwards. 

If thats the case let us keep Jalen too lol. Jalen on the bench and next to lineups where Kat is center would be amazing.

5 minutes ago, Sothron said:

Just have to add...IF this trade goes down. Trae, KAT and DJM will be so, so fun to play in 2k. That Trae/KAT PNR action is going to be insane. DJM will be able to roam free as well. Just need some shooters on the outside to help keep it clean. So fun.

If we do the deal that’s being suggested we are creating new holes at backup pf and center. Will be interesting to see what they do to solve this… 

personslly would trade Dre before jj 

39 minutes ago, kg01 said:

What if I told you ... he posted it well before Jake.  You just didn't see it? 

He didn’t 

Just now, cam1218 said:

Take it or leave it, that’s all I can say. I appreciate whatever they share. A lot of this is just passing on info from whoever it comes from. I know I don’t have the means to duplicate what I can find in these threads lol.

Like I said they should absolutely take credit for the stuff they share that isn’t even being discussed (like this KAT stuff). But don’t pass off stuff that’s already been reported to try to build credibility 

2 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Cmon, man.  Can we pick this up another day?  Let us be happy together for once.  Please, Mikey?  

Lol I am happy. We got Dejounte on a steal. But we don’t need to do this credit stuff lol. Literally when he posted it I even said Jake already said this… so we don’t need to go down this path of him taking credit 

12 minutes ago, Sothron said:

thank you. It bothers me that after so much of what we pass along is later either confirmed or at least the chatter is supported by media types we still have haters. Oh well. 

We take yet another win on this one. And best of all the Hawks get an All Star player to take less money to HELP THE TEAM land a third guy. Literally has never happened in the history of the franchise IIRC.

I have no problem with you guys taking credit for your wins but please, please don’t take credit for something you put out AFTER a national report… 

jake Fischer dropped an article with this in it then all of a sudden it’s on this board later. If this KAT stuff happens absolutely take credit it’s been reported nowhere but taking credit when guys linked to the hawks have already put it out there is weird. As weird as saying “I knew hawks liked this guy for months, but was told not to speak”. That stuff never adds value. I told y’all day of we were taking Bufkin. This stuff isn’t classified lol 

21 minutes ago, Sothron said:

Is this where I point out I said I was told DJM was close to signing an extension and some questioned that? And that is exactly what he did? Hmm.

DJM wants to stay here and he put his money where his mouth is. Love that he took less to stay here to deliberately give the team room to avoid the 2nd apron to bring in a third star.

Tbf you said it after a national reporter lol. If people questioning you then they must live under a rock cause it was already reported elsewhere and had picked up steam 

1 hour ago, NBASupes said:

Update

I got word that KAT is officially available. It basically is due to Gobert having no trade value and they couldn't give him away. Dallas and Atlanta have called about KAT. The issue is KAT contract is massive just like Bradley Beal but Beal had more suitors, just the NTC screwed up his trade value. Keep an eye on KAT. Siakam to anywhere seems to be dead right now unless Masai lowers his price. Brown will get the supermax. He will not be on the move. 

I was told Atlanta been reluctant to move Okongwu and Griffin in trade talks for Toronto and others have talked to Atlanta. Clint definitely will be moved to a 3rd team in any major trade with a major piece coming back to Atlanta. Bey and JJ are names that have been mentioned to TOR.

Don't be shocked that the KAT trade involves few players like Clint and a couple kids but it's heavier on picks. I was told his value just isn't that high due to the contract and his health.

KAT was unavailable as recent as Monday is what I gathered and he just got the information today. 

Gobert has officially been pulled off the open market. He was one of the most available players on the market like JC but his price tag was so deep in the negatives and teams valued cheaper centers instead and the starting center market for the most part is a tad dry outside of a few teams who are targeting cheap guys or Clint. 

KAT price should be cheaper than siakam lol. Horrible contract and worst player 

now that I’m typing it it’s probbaly similar cause siakam wouldn’t commit but eh. Dre Clint (to third team) bey and picks but nothing more 

2 minutes ago, Sothron said:

There's growing optimism that DJM might sign the 4 year 120 million dollar extension and NOT wait to be a FA at the end of next season. This would make it far easier to build the team knowing he is staying here and giving him long term peace of mind.

Yup jake Fischer wrote this in today notebook too. Steal of a deal if he does ink it 

6 hours ago, Sothron said:

Just to toss this in:

@NBASupes proposed trade is close to what I heard and was told not to repeat. Now that the cat is out of the bag ( and I can provide receipts for a source if need be ) I can confirm it. 

My extra toss in:

We've basically committed too much into a major trade at this point not to complete one. Either Jalen Brown or Siakam coming here. 

Don’t be shy Toss the receipts 

52 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Happy 4th of July

Blockbuster

Damian Lillard

While there is no progress with Miami. There has been progress in general. 

Portland and Boston has heated up talks about Lillard for Brown and Horford with Nurk going to a 3rd team. 

The issue is Lillard hasn't shown any interest in anyone but Miami and Brown want supermax from Boston or Atlanta. 

Atlanta has talked to a lot of teams and has reached out to Portland if Brown goes to Atlanta. I am told that they can put as many as 6 teams in the trade but have settled on a framework of three teams. 

Nurk is the biggest hold-up as they are having a HARD time trying to find a home for him. 

I am told the framework is: 

Murray and Hunter to TOR 

Siakam, JJ, and Horford plus 2024 1st (ATL likely SAC) to POR

Lillard to BOS

J. Brown and Nurkic to ATL

I am told Atlanta asked Portland to see what's the best they can get for Nurk on the market as Atlanta is not interested in Nurkic. Atlanta would prefer a smaller player for Nurkic even if the contract is equally not good. I am told Atlanta has an interest in a potential Nurk to Miami deal for Duncan Robinson but as you can imagine, Miami is reluctant to any Portland deal that doesn't involve Dame right now. Evan F from New York is another name the Hawks have looked into. There are teams interested in Nurk but to no value for Portland but of value to the Hawks.

That said, Boston is still progressing with contract talks with Brown so he has not been offered yet and Dame still is stubborn as an Ox about Miami. But this was a deal I am told Atlanta has brought to Portland if Jaylen Brown requests a trade and Boston offers Brown for Lillard. 

It's pretty much a dead trade market right now. Teams are set for the most part. Toronto did reach out to Atlanta again but Atlanta is not trading Murray unless Siakam is willing to resign which he's not. 

I am told that Portland is not bothered by that as much. The thought is you can resign him without issues but Atlanta isn't as willing to do so as Portland is due to the trade cost of Murray for them and if they trade Murray, they want a guarantee. 

Portland is considering trading Jeremi Grant. There are suitors for him but Portland wanted more assets for him. It's said that he will be available for trade by the deadline. There are teams said to be interested. 

Philly does not want to trade Harden which will upset Embiid but they didn't want to give Harden a major deal when he had no real market. Even less of a market than Kyrie. Kyrie had a market of three teams willing to give him 25+ per and Dallas just outbidded them just to keep Kyrie happy. Philly didn't and Harden only had one bid from HOU for 30+ million which is about what he's making now and he is PISSED about it but there is no real market for Harden right now. Teams just don't want him for a lot. Even his trade market is really bad and this is ultimately making it hard for Philly to deal with Harden right now but this is also on Philly. They made promises and didn't follow them. That's why you don't make promises in the 1st place, Philadelphia. 

Harden took less last year when he actually had a market but wanted to do good to Philly. I see why he's made. 

The Knicks have been shopping Randle for a star and haven't come close. They did come close to a PG13 deal with LAC but pulled out when they heard PG13 contract request which is why LAC put him on the market in the first place. 

I was just told Atlanta was turned off as well. 

Cleveland shopped both Garland and Allen but I am told the cost is exceptional and no one has come close. 

Gobert is really available but teams just don't want to come close to MIN's demands for a return. 

Embiid is who everyone is waiting for but I am told Philly wants to get two max spots in 2024 so they can give Embiid options. They are also hoping a star becomes available for a discount like Trae Young who teams are hovering for. The Knicks in particular really want Embiid and are willing to cash in for him. I am told, Morey isn't close to interested. 

It's a dead market right now, maybe things will heat up in Vegas. 

Atlanta is still the most active team is what my guy confirmed again. So we are very active but Atlanta wants to contend, if you can't help them do that, they aren't interested. 

Don’t you guys think that the team getting siakam wouldn’t also want another power forward lol 

Not to mention that pf Trae brought out to his own home to workout with…

High level summer league roster with potentially more to come in TyTy and Garuba.

Will have good guard play with TyTy (who id imagine won't play all the games) and Kobe. AJ should be a too good to be at summer league guy and they got some good bigs wtih Gueye, Norris and Kabengele.

26 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Al was easily top 10 in his prime. 

No chance in hell. Stop smoking PCP and tripping off acid

Yeah

Hell yeah

I'll rather KAT with Trae than Pascal with Trae as KAT makes Trae better offensively and vice versa. I don't love the offensive fit of Siakam and Trae and while Siakam makes us better on defense, elite offense from a big will always be more valuable for Trae than an excellent way big. 

Elite offense from a big is mute when the defense is historically bad... yall gotta let this KAT idea go man. He is awful defensively. we would have two of the worst defenders in the league in one lineup. If your bigs are horrible defensively you will never win anything

10 minutes ago, theheroatl said:

And that’s why I’m glad you aren’t our GM. JJ is good and all but he will never ever be a 1,2,3 scoring option.

His role isn't to be a scorer though lol. He does everything else at a high level and is the type of player you need around Trae especially if they incorproate motion offense principles. Defends high level, rebounds well, pushes pace.

15 minutes ago, Sothron said:

I honestly would rather develop JJ who I think has star potential then give up the farm for an almost 30 year old that depends on athletic ability that's fading IMO in Siakam. 

Hes 30, on the last year of his deal, and has refused to commit to signing anywhere. The trade package wont be a farm at all. Itll be elike DJ + Bufkin + 2 picks or something of sort. 

10 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

He's top 30 like Sap was. He's not a star. 

You been that guy, why start with, I don't want to be that guy

I think youre undervaluing him a lot lol. 

32 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Probably this week before we fly out to Vegas. Sacramento is playing in that Cali tournament tomorrow

Siakam not a star???? The dude is one of the 20 best players in the league and an all nba forward...

Per Michael granger, a raptors reporter siakam is a name that continues to be brought up in trade chatter with the hawks still having interest 

houston opened up space to be involved in dame trade... coming soon

we dont have the tpe from jc trade yet so its definitely not used. bruno will be waived and harkless tpe if anythng

houston added 4 million in space for something