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There were 3 touch fouls on that play. Pick 1.

Wife knitted me a hat after the shaved head. It's really warm. I was nodding off before Bey hit that 3. Wasn't sure I wasn't dreaming.

I might sleep in this chair tonight.

Just now, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Trae is much more under control this half.

Yes, yes he is.

My wife is still trying to figure out what yacht rock is?  

Simple.better than flashy.

12 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Bruno has always played like this.  He just had horrible hands in his first few years in the league.

Horrible hands. I think you have him confused with CC.  Bad hands I'll buy. Not ready hands, yah. But horrible hands goes to bunny shot Clint.

Right there. BRUNO 2/3 down the lane, 1 step out, perfect position to smother that. That was not Bruno a few years ago. Someone broke it down for him.

5 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Bruno has always played like this.  He just had horrible hands in his first few years in the league.

You and I buttes heads on him a few times and for me it was always his reaction time and starting position.  He spent more time defensively being drawn to the free throw line and get passed behind. Tonight he's playing step out step in 1/2 way down the free throw line on both ends and cutting off his opponents angles. He's big. This gives him a huge advantage in shot challenges.

If Bruno played front of the rim aggressive like this in his first stop here, we would have never moved him.

7 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Welcome back brother, love you bro

Still here, still read the nonsense nightly and still laugh at 75% of the takes. Just less talking, more.healing.

OMFG when Jalen is allowed to push the ball up court, his whole approach changes and he becomes a menace.

3 hours ago, AHF said:

Let's break it down for you.

For me, everyone on our bench other than Bogi, OO and Bey has horrible bad advanced metrics.  Not coincidently they also suck for the most part.  They are poster children for bad player and bad metrics as I displayed with my challenge to the board earlier today.  

Their metrics make Hunter look like an advanced metric beast.  

I'm reading your logic to go something like this:

Hunter is out.  Hunter has some metrics that are mediocre and others that are bad.  If bad metrics meant anything him being off the floor would mean we would be winning more often with him out.

So I'm operating off that reading of your post.  If you are intending to communicate something else then please clarify.

The problem with that logic is that we didn't trade Hunter for someone with great metrics.  All our best metrics players were already on the team before Hunter's injury so they are basically giving you what they did before he went out.  When Hunter is injured we aren't adding good metrics to the team.  We are adding minutes for players who have been terrible this season.  That doesn't improve our likelihood of winning games.  (I previously gave a breakdown the minutes to some of our worst players and showed they are getting dramatically more minutes in games where Hunter is out if you want to find that to see the exact breakdown or feel free to do the comparison yourself.) 

Hunter isn't a terrible player.  He is a mediocre player who is our only wing defender.  We miss him when he is out and we give minutes to Mat(t)hews and others who either aren't ready to deliver or who are so bad they will never (again in some cases) be ready to deliver quality minutes on a regular basis.

Strong disagree.  Look at the winning teams and the losing teams and you'll see clear patterns with the metrics.  No metric is the be all end all but they absolutely reveal and display valuable information about players and the game.

You mean Wesley Matthew's right? Meth Bogi has had some quality moments.

3 hours ago, AHF said:

You think Dre being out and giving minutes to garbage cans in Mat(t)hews will improve the team?!?  That isn’t how metrics work.  Hunter’s metrics look All-NBA compared to them.  They should not be getting minutes on an NBA roster.

Trade Hunter for Mikal Bridges and then you’ll see if the metrics mean something.

I have a pocket list of people I'd trade away and for to improve this team that would make people do a double take on the defensive end and I really think that's what the trade deadline will all be about. Getting bigger, longer, better laterally. 

On that drive, JJ used the simultaneous hop dribble and did not get called for a travel this time. That's new, that's different and a good sign.

49 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

I’m sorry but he has exceeded EVERYBODY’S expectations not just s(tump)puddy!  

Mine???

1 hour ago, dalamchops said:

jj took and made so many easy looks last night, it's so refreshing to see the team get easy buckets. Those are so necessary to keep the lead and pressure on the other team's D.

I counted 5 times he passed to someone who missed a wide open look. He easily could/should have had 5 more assists.

JJ is not the hero you all wanted, but he was the hero you needed!!!

So let me give some insight on something that does happen (though less often than you think). Teams assemble video packages on players who they think get the shaft with the whistle. You pretty much reserve it for top 3 scorers and the evidence has to be overwhelming.  Referees do not like the oversight. You kind of need 7-10 games of evidence and at least 5 crews. You need to show a pattern of evidence.  This isn't about complaining about not getting individual calls, it's about respect.

A typical team would submit audit tapes 3-5 times a year. I would not be surprised if Jalen is our next submission. This stuff is never in the media and is a private process for referee improvement.  The reality is refs need to cover teams 10-15 times to learn what new starters bring, yhe type of plays they're typically involved in, their moves, etc. Until then, they miss calls all the time

For example, the blocking call on Jalen earlier should have been a charge, but refs call those blocking all the time because 85% of bigs can't get set as easy as a guard. They're making an assumption call. Once shown proof the player can the assumption changes. It isn't fair but until you ref. Game at this speed, normies cant possibly understand.

3 minutes ago, Bonzaii58 said:

No foul for JJ there?

I wrote about that today. He's still getting rookie treatment. If I was Quinn, I'd passively aggressively start mentioning it in interviews.

He's not my son, but that's my BOI!

1 hour ago, RedDawg#8 said:

I agree that a light bulb has seemed to turn on for Jalen. I think for the majority of his bball career he has always been bigger and stronger than the other guys on the court. It looks like at this level it is starting to click that his explosiveness makes him FASTER than the other guys too.

When he is in attack mode, he can get in to the paint and explode vertically to the rim before his defender can even make up his mind on where he wants to go. He is playing with a violence and confidence to his game where he is not afraid to attack.

It’s as if he woke up and realized that he is physically superior to the competition. He will for sure blossom in to a special player at this rate

The Jalen of the last 2 games was the Jalen at College Park and at Duke (when healthy). Its not really lightbulb. Its coach trust, teammate trust when you aren't the primary ball handler and just finding your place. For a player like Jalen, he's been the man his whole high school/college/developmental league career. Becoming a 2nd/3rd option is a very new role for him.  Its just adjustment but for anyone that watched him at College Park or looked at ability vs output when he was on the floor, you knew this was coming.

So a big usually doesn't get solid joints until 23+.  At that age his shooting, handles usually improve.  Jalen is 21. By 23, many parts of his game will improve naturally due to body maturity alone. He'll probably put on 10-15 lbs of natural body weight by that time and will box out better, finish through contact better.  I see those signs right now. 25/26 season, he has the potential to be our best player. An argument can be made he's already most impactful. He could possibly be a 60%/40%/80% guy in 2 years and will demand a double every time he touches the ball. If Trae is still here, they'll be an impossible 2-some to contain.

6 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

Been out of this planet impressed with Jalen but last game it seemed he turned another corner and broke down more plateaus in his overall game and confidence. 
 

He’s gone from somebody I thought was expendable to a mainstay for the Hawks.

And what better point guard to get better with than Trae the superstar? 
 

JJ better get a pair of new sunglasses the future is extremely bright for him.

The ease in which he makes some plays is amazing. With the body, strides and athleticism.”, the sky is the limit.

So one serious summit to cap for him and then skies the limit.

He's still getting rookie treatment by the refs with the whistle. He's blown for 2 fouls a night that the Lebrons of the world would never get. Gets an occasional travel on a simultaneous first step (which is technically not a travel but gets called a lot on mid-tier and below players).

If/When JJ starts getting star treatment with the refs, He'll be a 20/10 guy every night and will drop 30/15/7 on someone of note.  Its the main thing holding back his aggression. He can't go 1v1 to the basket right now and guarantee he'll get a foul call. At the beginning of last game, he had 2 post up/drives where he drew contact, didn't get the basket or the foul.  Siakam would have got that call, Butler would have got that call.  I submit at some point this season or by next, he'll start getting those calls and become a 20/10 guy.