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8 hours ago, BrazilianHawk said:
I would say it`s highly unlikely this franchise ever wins a campionship.
Agree
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What does this mean for Tim Hardaway Jr's contract?
I hope we can keep him on a cap friendly number...
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3 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:
Timberwolves lineup with Millsap
PG - Rubio
G - Butler
F - Wiggins
PF - Millsap
C - Towns
6th man - Shabazz
Interesting. That lineup would make them tremendously better on defense, and could challenge for the 4 - 6 spot in the West. That's a 50 win team easily . . . on paper
More like the 3rd spot....That Team would be only be behind Warriors and the Spurs...
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On 6/25/2017 at 11:41 PM, Sothron said:
I hope he signs somewhere else. I was never sold on him and while he did FINALLY improve last season it isn't enough for me to want to invest that kind of money.
Are you serious? THJ, worked hard over the last 16months to buy into Bud's system and now he is 25years old and the 3rd leading scorer on the Hawks. And your answer is to trade him b/c you are not sold on him? Wake UP HAWKS FANS!!!
His career progression Arc (to date) is actually similar to Jimmy Butler from a numbers progression. Now Hardaway needs to continue to work on his defense, but him and Dennis in the backcourt could be very potent provided they continue to improve. The problem is we overpaid for Bazemore's energy but his skillset is no where near Hardaway's and Baze is two years older.
How will we ever be successful if we don't continue to grow and refine the talent we have in place.
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4 minutes ago, AtlHomer said:
Assuming Millsap will be moving on, Collins is projected to be our PF going forward. No need for Griffin.
We can play with two PFs...This is the new NBA and yes Millsap will be gone..
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This summer should be interesting, our GM doesn't seem to like the word rebuild...If we are reloading should the Hawks go after Griffin? Or just be content on hoping the lottery odds fall into our favor in 2018?
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22 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:
Those teams mentioned have capspace to sign Millsap....mmmm.
Millsap would have to have given the Hawks some indication he was interested in playing for those teams....mmmm.
Yep...It just sounds like due diligence from our new GM...The likely scenario is we let him walk.
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2 minutes ago, bleachkit said:
If Dennis and Prince are leading the troops next year we will be a 25 to 30 win team. Props to Boston, all these draft picks yet still winning. They tanked the right way.
We will keep Hardaway too.
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10 minutes ago, Flight said:
When it rains it pours.
In this case it's pouring L's.
Winter is coming!
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1 minute ago, GameTime said:
If we resign Millsap for 207 million, do you see this team contending?
I like Millsap, but now that we are rebuilding we have to sign & trade him to get something in return.
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2 minutes ago, sturt said:
Sounds fishy.... why would any team be interested in a sign-and-trade at this stage? What am I missing?
Well, for starters - it keeps them out of over bidding situations....If you're the Kings you need some leadership and support to help your team grow. Why not pay SAP to anchor the young team.
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According to the Windhorst vid - the Hawks are fielding offers for SAP, (Kings, Suns, Nuggets,), not sure what value we will be getting back but it looks like our new GM is going for the complete rebuild. But unfortunately, we don't have high draft picks to draft a star player this year.
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8 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:
The Shooting Guard position is the one we need to watch the most....THJ needs to be able to beat Korver for the starting job at that position, and allow for Korver to provide a spark off the bench. THJ is more athletic and could really come into his own this season.
Really interested in seeing Bud's rotational pattern.
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6 hours ago, MrYellow said:
Do you wanna know a secret? Only TWO teams among 30 make the finals.
Are all other teams supposed to destroy their entire roster every single year?
We have good assets, stop being scared of competition.
Ha...Scared of competition? How about scared of mediocrity...It will take another sweep in the playoffs to realize this...I will circle back with you this time next year... In a star driven league, we need to change the perception...Our old Friend Billy Knight realize this, although stupidly missing out on Chris Paul and others, paid Joe Johnson that mega contract in a poor attempt to change perception of Atlanta.....I mean KD didnt even want to listen to us.....
Ferry & Bud were excellent at bringing that SPurs Culture to ATL...Please keep in mind that the Spurs did have a Superstar on that roster...And I love our your two SFs, THJ, even Howard....but we need a SuperStar.....Maybe Denis can be that...ok, let's wait another year and hope...
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24 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:
We'd regress even further when Westbrook walks and we've given away future picks.
A future PICK not picks....and that pick can be the Minnesota's pick when we drafted Adriene Payne....remember how good that pick was?
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9 minutes ago, capstone21 said:
So if he leaves we lose Milsap, Dennis, and our first as well ... In other words our future ....
And what future is that exactly? The same one that has us losing in the 2nd round every year?
Keeping Milsap is the safe play.
".. you can't lose what you don't put in the middle. But you can't win much either. ". Mike McDermott (Rounders)
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4 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:
So instead of OKC being in the same spot like they were with Durant, it'll just be us with Westbrook, plus we've given away young players and picks.
You wouldn't take that risk to have arguably a top 5 player on our team? Even if it's for one full season...
When is the last time the Hawks had a superstar? Here is a plan, let's wait and hope we get lucky in the draft.....I see why we never win anything in any sport
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6 minutes ago, Diesel said:
No. We shouldn't trade Millsap. I think the combination of him and D12 will be a potent one. Moreover, instead of quitting right now, we should take advantage of this window to see if we can make a run.
I say strengthen what we have instead of tearing it down and hoping for the future. If we were getting Westbrook to play with D12 and Sap, i would say..Do that. However, in absence of that, hold on to Sap and see what we can do at full capacity.
If Bud thinks we can make an ECF run as constructed then I'm with you. I actually do like our team, but hate to see us regress next year when SAP walks
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3 minutes ago, DrReality said:
We'd get more for him closer to the deadline.
And you figure this how? Why would any Owner give up more assets to get a player that can walk 3months later.
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4 minutes ago, RandomFan said:
The shorter answer: NO
it's a simple math equation....I agree Westbrook is a pipe dream, but if the Hawks don't trade Milsap, then we will be in the exact same spot has OKC management with Durant this summer.
the only problem is we won't get much value for SAP in Feb.
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8 minutes ago, h4wkfan said:
Westbrook is not signing long term in Atlanta.
Yes but we fiscally can't sign Milsap....why not take a risk on Westbrook, if he leaves then he leaves,...plus I think that team could really challenge for the East this season!
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The short answer: YES
With the salary Cap ballooning to 109mill next year for teams and given how well Milsap has been playing he would command a contract of 4yr/100million range at the very least. Now that would be ok if he was 26, but not at 32....Not sure how much Howard would cry about a retooling effort, but we have to move Milsap this offseason, b/c his value diminishes as the season starts and Milsap would be a fool to not take the big payday elsewhere. Plus he knows the Hawks tried to move him last week, before good ole Al put an end to that.
your move Bud...we need a good player in return.
could the Hawks go all in....and risk losing it all by going after a superstar? Sure the same challenge as Milsap contract is stil there, but damn rolling the dice could be worth it!
ATL trades: Milsap , Dennis and a future 1st
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OKC trades: Russell Westbrook, Mitch McGary
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14 minutes ago, IheartVolt said:
NBA is full of disloyal chumps.. Smh @ the bullshit this league is becoming when stuff like this happens. I do not know if I can continue to watch this with all this teaming up of p*ssy players
Disloyal? This is a business, and let's be honest Oklahoma City or San Francisco/Oakland is a no brainer. The days of players staying with one team their entire is over; just like its rare for employees to stay with one company their entire life.
Life presents options, some you take some you don't...but damn going to the team that just beat really stings for the Fans of OKC. damn
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With all this Free Agency Craze over the last 48hrs...would the Hawks consider trading for Burke as a backup PG?
http://espn.go.com/blog/nba/rumors/post/_/id/38395/nba-rumor-central-jazz-shopping-trey-burke
Sap is gone to Denver
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Baze isn't going to start...
PG- Dennis
SG- THJ
SF- Prince
PF - Collins /
C- Plumlee ---> This is comical...but oh well