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Dwyane Wade-esque move, taking less and being loyal.  Let’s not Pat Riley this. 

1 hour ago, GameTime said:

Dame forcing his way to Miami?

 

Man….I used to love Dame’s commitment to Portland. I get him wanting to try something different but I hope this isn’t true. It’s one thing to want to move on, and another to try and start leveraging that for what you want. 

38 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Or Ferry like move. Ferry had a lot of good trades for us. If only he was better at drafting

Ferry’s trades with Schlenk’s drafting. I’d be down with that. 

12 hours ago, JeffS17 said:

WHEN DO THE TRADES BEGIN!?

Better sign into your Schwab account then if you're wanting that.

While I don't see the move as great for the Lakers, it's a good one for Cam.  It's a good chance to see what he can become on a team of some proven vets.

3 hours ago, Peoriabird said:

You still think it was about John's value?  This was a salary dumb plain and simple.  I know all went to bed last night dreaming of Hawks bring all of these high salaried guy in to replace John like Siakam or Kat...Wake up folks!!! because 1st of all we would be right where we started...in cap hell and a mediocre team and secondly, Russler is a business man not a fan period.

A salary dump can be seen as value and I see it that way.  Think about how handcuffed some of those New York Knick teams were in the 2000s.  Salary dumping and saving on our cap does inherently does have its own value to a lot of teams.  Depends on how you view it. 

It wasn't about John's value to get something in return (due to mismanagement of his situation, which I don't agree with).  At the end of the day though, to me it seems the best "value" they could get was shedding his contract and having the flexibility to do more which I'm hoping will be the case.  I'm ok waiting to see what happens.

3 hours ago, bleachkit said:

It's been widely reported that Schlenk's attempts to trade JC were nixed by ownership. The man wasn't given a chance to do his job.

Fair enough, I honestly haven't had the time to keep up on all the info here with my busy schedule so if that's true then there you go.  I appreciate you saving me from parsing through all of this.

2 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

I've been on this hill for awhile. We can't get trading good players or critical players and thinking it will just naturally get better. It won't. Why is it that no one fits Trae? For all that want to say Clint and JC, both are about to be out of the door. Clint had better numbers with Harden anyway. 

If the goal of playing in the NBA is to win a ‘chip, what has Horford done?  Winning or not, if you can’t reach the ultimate prize what are you really worth?

While I’m underwhelmed, the feedback on Bufkin sounds good. Sounds like he can definitely work his way into being one of the first guards off the bench with AJ if he is ready right away. 

This is just dumb media.  The Lakers can have internal discussions all day about who they want.  Plenty of teams do it but how is that even headline worthy?

Until you have the other side discussing what is the point of even mentioning this? The second they come talk us and we say "no" this is over.  It takes two to tango.

6 hours ago, Final_quest said:

One of my observations from watching a lot of games in the playoffs is something close to this.  I see why Lebron made it to the finals so many times.  Tatum is getting headlines for dropping 51 in Game 7, but that dude has completely disappeared in a lot of other games.  You would think KD, Booker, and CP3 would be able to prove something as a trio, but nope.  

I've realized come playoff time that being consistent holds so much more value than being able to go off in games.  Defensive and offensive side.  Nobody on the Lakers has gone off a ton, they've just been solid throughout.  Jokic and Jimmy are just different and have dominated all playoffs and I feel like Tatum just happened to show up at just the right times to get to where they are while Philly disappeared again.

Every other team that's on the outside looking in have had some pretty polarizing performances to say the least.

I picked the Heat over Bucks, because 5 games....5 games?!?!

Hawks would be my second pick.  We beat a really confident Miami squad in Miami and being able to get 2 against a championship caliber Boston team - including the win in Boston - has me feeling better about our chances next year.

I’m building an “anti-closers” team or butthole pucker team a la @JayBirdHawk

I got Harden, Joel, Randle, Ayton, Dillon Brooks, with Doc at the helm and Poole coming off the bench. Who ya got?

Guys that really know how to let you down when it matters most. 
 

4 hours ago, Wretch said:

So, everyone has their favorite players and their standards...  Some people feel that specific players don't get enough credit or recognition for what they do.  For me, that player was Rip Hamilton when he played and to this day, I'll argue with people all day about how underrated he is. Supes isn't really any different in that regard, except how highly he rates Horford.

Sure, I have mine too.  I hold Joe Johnson in high regard, higher than most logical folks would I'm sure but there is a healthy limit to this lol.

How many times have you posted about Rip compared to the number of times we have heard Al's name here?

5 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

I don’t know but what if we get Alice on the Warriors, would that help alleviate the issue? 

You're just looking for more reasons to hate the Warriors.  #spudagenda

1 hour ago, Spud2nique said:

Meanwhile Spud trying to figure out who Renzocapone is?  AHF?… umm  

Sounds like a pretty tasty Italian treat. That’s my answer and I’m sticking with it. Mama mia!

It’s not just that Ayton disappears, it’s that he tends to do it when the spotlight is biggest. If you want any sort of postseason success, you stay away from those guys. 
 

All it takes is some other slight or getting pulled in a game with us and he’d be right back where he was with the Suns. 

1 hour ago, Wretch said:

I was a HUGE LeBron fan when he first came into the league and I still appreciate the amazing talent that he is.  The list of things wrong with him and everything he represents makes it impossible for me to root for him now.

For most people, I think it boils down to how you feel about the modern "team up" era.  LeBron made it about how many "friends" you have and "let's go get a ring" and the casual fanbase, that's all they seem to care about.  A guy like Dame gets zero respect, but if he joins LeBron or Durant, they give him all the love in the world.

For his part, LeBron makes everything about himself.  Calling himself the best player in the world... Claiming the victory over the Warriors as the one that made him the greatest player ever...  Honestly believing that his bubble championship was the most difficult in NBA history because of circumstances.  The way he flops, quits on defense when he's not happy, and pouts on the sideline.  Man, I just can't with him...and his fans are some of the worst.

The LeBron era, specifically this last decade, has been almost insufferable for me when LeBron (or KD) is in contention.

I get the "team up" thing but at this point it's one of those things that most stars are doing and some to a degree more than him (i.e. Durant, Kyrie, Harden).  That said, he was the one that opened the floodgates so I get that but I'm sure it would have eventually been done by someone else.

As for Dame, I have mad respect for him and I think a lot of non-casual of fans do.  Problem is, the media doesn't and Lebron is good clickbait for the casual fan so if there's a lack of respect to me it's more the media than anything.

Regarding the self-proclaiming, that's why I'd say I'm only a partial fan.  I can't stand that stuff and the lack of being humble about his gifts and instead wanting to create a branding and messaging for himself.  It is off-putting.  I just mainly have a respect for what he can do on a nightly basis and at his age - from a strictly athletic standpoint it's still pretty impressive.  The amount of times he drives and put his body at risk is no small feat, he doesn't just stand behind the 3 point line and throw up shots.  I don't really see him whine and complain anymore than any star player in the league - I think that's just a byproduct of him being featured/talked about more than any other player so it gets spotlighted more.  But, if he is going to crown himself as such then he needs to deal with that backlash.

I don’t have a problem with the Lakers. I’m indifferent to Lebron, maybe a minor fan (don’t hate me y’all) and at least appreciate him shutting up Dillon Brooks. 
 

Even if you don’t like him I really love the way Reaves plays the game, and seeing Schröder kind of come back after struggling to find a team I like seeing. Hachimura has been a solid player too. A lot of solid role players to like IMO. Guys that are being given a chance and thriving. 

Collins and Hunter really let me down after that jump ball. Unacceptable. 

So the trade of Murray brings up the question:  if we resigned Murray to a decent contract, would you rather trade him or Trae if you had to choose who goes on the block?

I have a hard time with this one.  I lean towards Murray because of defense and more consistency than Trae, but I also think Trae can even out nicely and play smarter given some more time with Quin.